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I’ve just been chatting to a buddy from China. She says there’s a new mystery disease just kicking off over there. It seems to be a respiratory illness, and it’s really starting to cause a lot of hospitalisations. In her words “starting to overwhelm some hospitals”. This is the same person who told me something odd was happening with a mystery illness in China a few years ago. Surely this isn’t going to happen again, is it?
ks now.The Standard : The China ‘overwhelmed’ by mystery new virus outbreak five years on from Covid
Apparently a human metapneumovirus (HMPV) variant, which appears to be causing severe illness particularly in children under the age of 14.
Apparently a human metapneumovirus (HMPV) variant, which appears to be causing severe illness particularly in children under the age of 14.
Cliftonite said:
Cold said:
Better start stocking up on Scotch Eggs again.
Never mind those; how many toilet rolls do you have?!ETA - if Starmer closes the pubs the night before my birthday like that c**t Boris I'll be really annoyed!
tamore said:
Cliftonite said:
Cold said:
Better start stocking up on Scotch Eggs again.
Never mind those; how many toilet rolls do you have?!Dbag101 said:
I’ve just been chatting to a buddy from China. She says there’s a new mystery disease just kicking off over there. It seems to be a respiratory illness, and it’s really starting to cause a lot of hospitalisations. In her words “starting to overwhelm some hospitals”. This is the same person who told me something odd was happening with a mystery illness in China a few years ago. Surely this isn’t going to happen again, is it?
Ignore 95% of the news you see. Treat the other 5 with extreme scepticism. You won't go far wrong. For most of us, had the great COVID disaster not been acknowledged and we had just treated it like any other winter/year or so, we wouldn't have thought twice about it, beyond probably "there's a bloody bad cold going around". Those of us who did lose someone (me included) would have probably mostly correctly have put the death down to the person being already weakened in another way (in my case a very ill elderly relative on my dad's side). We might have lost more people (I'd wager we wouldn't). We wouldn't have spent billions on the various defences. COVID might not have evolved in to the bad cold it's become now (maybe it always was little more). Has the vaccine even had a positive effect? My wife and I both came down with what I assume was COVID this winter, it seems to have affected us both fairly equally, she gets jabbed, I haven't after the first 2 which apparently as long as you don't listen to the antivax loons (who claim I'm about to sprout a second head) will have worn off ages ago.
In short. Illnesses abound at this time of year. Don't panic. The Americans are currently being whipped in to a frenzy over chemical fog. I'll worry when the next nasty haemorrhagic fever goes around, now that is a scary disease.
xx99xx said:
Meanwhile, winter flu hospitalisations are high in the UK. Situation normal.
Not exactly, NHS staff in our region are being asked to wear masks again when seeing Patients, first time since Covid. It's about keeping staff healthy and working rather than anything else. That said, if it wasn't for Covid, no one would be reporting this story out of China, in fact if it wasn't happening in China they might not even report it now. It's really dialling into our post Covid fears for clicks.
P-Jay said:
xx99xx said:
Meanwhile, winter flu hospitalisations are high in the UK. Situation normal.
Not exactly, NHS staff in our region are being asked to wear masks again when seeing Patients, first time since Covid. It's about keeping staff healthy and working rather than anything else. That said, if it wasn't for Covid, no one would be reporting this story out of China, in fact if it wasn't happening in China they might not even report it now. It's really dialling into our post Covid fears for clicks.
Hill92 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Has anyone pointed the hospital management towards (IIRC) the Danish masks study?
The study that was inconclusive and focused on the use of disposal surgical mask worn all day by the general public as opposed to healthcare workers following proper protocols?IIRC the Cochrane review of physical intervention methods (including studies on use by Healthcare workers) indicated low to moderate certainty of evidence regarding benefits of mask wearing (if any).
asfault said:
this is along the same lines of
"snow bomb to hit uk
"mega cyclonic cold spell due
" wall of 400 miles of snow to impact uk.
nothing comes of it and then when bad weather actually happens no-one takes any heed as the newspapers have come out with this crap for the past 2 months.
It's not long to go before the 'Exact date that the 30c heatwave will hit all of the UK' headlines arrive."snow bomb to hit uk
"mega cyclonic cold spell due
" wall of 400 miles of snow to impact uk.
nothing comes of it and then when bad weather actually happens no-one takes any heed as the newspapers have come out with this crap for the past 2 months.
wildoliver said:
Ignore 95% of the news you see. Treat the other 5 with extreme scepticism. You won't go far wrong.
For most of us, had the great COVID disaster not been acknowledged and we had just treated it like any other winter/year or so, we wouldn't have thought twice about it, beyond probably "there's a bloody bad cold going around". Those of us who did lose someone (me included) would have probably mostly correctly have put the death down to the person being already weakened in another way (in my case a very ill elderly relative on my dad's side). We might have lost more people (I'd wager we wouldn't). We wouldn't have spent billions on the various defences. COVID might not have evolved in to the bad cold it's become now (maybe it always was little more). Has the vaccine even had a positive effect? My wife and I both came down with what I assume was COVID this winter, it seems to have affected us both fairly equally, she gets jabbed, I haven't after the first 2 which apparently as long as you don't listen to the antivax loons (who claim I'm about to sprout a second head) will have worn off ages ago.
In short. Illnesses abound at this time of year. Don't panic. The Americans are currently being whipped in to a frenzy over chemical fog. I'll worry when the next nasty haemorrhagic fever goes around, now that is a scary disease.
Wise words right there. If only more people thought that way. For most of us, had the great COVID disaster not been acknowledged and we had just treated it like any other winter/year or so, we wouldn't have thought twice about it, beyond probably "there's a bloody bad cold going around". Those of us who did lose someone (me included) would have probably mostly correctly have put the death down to the person being already weakened in another way (in my case a very ill elderly relative on my dad's side). We might have lost more people (I'd wager we wouldn't). We wouldn't have spent billions on the various defences. COVID might not have evolved in to the bad cold it's become now (maybe it always was little more). Has the vaccine even had a positive effect? My wife and I both came down with what I assume was COVID this winter, it seems to have affected us both fairly equally, she gets jabbed, I haven't after the first 2 which apparently as long as you don't listen to the antivax loons (who claim I'm about to sprout a second head) will have worn off ages ago.
In short. Illnesses abound at this time of year. Don't panic. The Americans are currently being whipped in to a frenzy over chemical fog. I'll worry when the next nasty haemorrhagic fever goes around, now that is a scary disease.
I agree with everything apart from the last sentence. And that's because I don't know what haemorrhagic fever is. I may google it.
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