Snoring

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fatandwheezing

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421 posts

163 months

Wednesday 29th May
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Looking for any proven solutions for snoring. Mid 40s, and it's got so much worse over the last year. I don't think its weight related, if anything I've lost weight. Other half increasingly moving to the spare room during the night.

Mainly find my nose closes up when I go to sleep. much worse when I drink, which is not that often, so do a pre-emprive spare room sleep on those occassions.

Tried a few things:
Silent night sleep pillow - no effect
Breathe Right menthol strip things - shove them onto the roof of your mouth to "tighten" the soft tissue - no effect
Nose strips - help a little, but not enough and I often wake up having removed them in the night.
Mouth guard - definitely helped, moves your lower jaw slightly forward to open the airway a bit, but woke up with teeth in pain, despite reshaping it a couple of times to be sure I'd fitted it right.
nostril spreader - shove it up your nose, pushes the nostrils out. Definitely helps, but like the breathing strips, disppears at some point in the night, always first assume I've inhaled it before I wake properly.


UncleClockwise

9 posts

5 months

Wednesday 29th May
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Might not work for you but I found (by chance whilst on holiday last year) that using two pillows and raising my head quite a lot has helped. This, coupled with using one of them small inflatable camping pillows inside a pillow case and putting it in the bed so it stops me rolling onto my back has finally managed to help my wife get a decent nights sleep.

Good luck finding a solution because it really can be a bit of a nightmare !

bigpriest

1,714 posts

135 months

Wednesday 29th May
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How's your general health - cardiac, circulatory, respiratory? Snoring can be a symptom of other issues if your weight is not an obvious flag. I found a heart attack cleared up my snoring completely. smile

MaxFromage

2,072 posts

136 months

Thursday 30th May
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My wife's snoring is on a different level being a trained singer... I wear earplugs.

Wacky Racer

38,731 posts

252 months

Thursday 30th May
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Google Sleep apnea.

Thousands of people have it, including my wife, one of my my sons and her brother.

d_a_n1979

9,329 posts

77 months

Thursday 30th May
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fatandwheezing said:
Looking for any proven solutions for snoring. Mid 40s, and it's got so much worse over the last year. I don't think its weight related, if anything I've lost weight. Other half increasingly moving to the spare room during the night.

Mainly find my nose closes up when I go to sleep. much worse when I drink, which is not that often, so do a pre-emprive spare room sleep on those occassions.

Tried a few things:
Silent night sleep pillow - no effect
Breathe Right menthol strip things - shove them onto the roof of your mouth to "tighten" the soft tissue - no effect
Nose strips - help a little, but not enough and I often wake up having removed them in the night.
Mouth guard - definitely helped, moves your lower jaw slightly forward to open the airway a bit, but woke up with teeth in pain, despite reshaping it a couple of times to be sure I'd fitted it right.
nostril spreader - shove it up your nose, pushes the nostrils out. Definitely helps, but like the breathing strips, disppears at some point in the night, always first assume I've inhaled it before I wake properly.
Speak to your GP about being referred to ENT.

I don't snore much but I do have the issues of my 'nose closing up' when I lie on my left side.

However I've a severely damaged sinus due to rugby and getting kneed in my face when I was 18 through a rough tackle and 2 solid objects meeting at the same time...!

That can't be fixed. But the ENT specialist told me that due to that, blood pressure changes happen when I lie down too etc.

It could be you have something similar going on...

Worth looking into

BoRED S2upid

20,131 posts

245 months

Thursday 30th May
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I find a quick jab to the ribs works a treat. Sort of knocks them out of the deep snoring sleep to a less deep sleep. Been doing it for years.

Ken_Code

1,566 posts

7 months

Thursday 30th May
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You say it’s not weight related, but what’s your BMI?

It’s well and good to say that you’ve lost weight, but it’s not the direction of travel that matters in terms of the current effects.

d_a_n1979

9,329 posts

77 months

Thursday 30th May
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Ken_Code said:
You say it’s not weight related, but what’s your BMI?

It’s well and good to say that you’ve lost weight, but it’s not the direction of travel that matters in terms of the current effects.
You do know that the BMI rating is beyond outdated and really, shouldn't be used with it being so wrong...

At 6ft 4 apparently I should be 12-14 stone... Aye OK...

It doesn't take muscle mass into consideration at all as well as a lot of other things...

It really needs to be binned

Caddyshack

11,319 posts

211 months

Thursday 30th May
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I use mouth tapes which work well and somehow your body knows to keep your nostrils open.

They feel a bit claustrophobic on first use but do try them.

I get them from amazon

bad company

19,325 posts

271 months

Thursday 30th May
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Apparently I stopped snoring when I lost a lot of weight. That might help.

TGCOTF-dewey

5,661 posts

60 months

Thursday 30th May
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Caddyshack said:
I use mouth tapes which work well and somehow your body knows to keep your nostrils open.

They feel a bit claustrophobic on first use but do try them.

I get them from amazon
My mate recommended them. I've used them a few times - they do work.

Ken_Code

1,566 posts

7 months

Thursday 30th May
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d_a_n1979 said:
You do know that the BMI rating is beyond outdated and really, shouldn't be used with it being so wrong...

At 6ft 4 apparently I should be 12-14 stone... Aye OK...

It doesn't take muscle mass into consideration at all as well as a lot of other things...

It really needs to be binned
It’s a very useful measure in nearly everyone but a handful of professional athletes.

Nearly everyone who dismisses it like this seems to be a total lard-arse who isn’t anything like the shape of the genuine exceptions.

d_a_n1979

9,329 posts

77 months

Friday 31st May
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Ken_Code said:
d_a_n1979 said:
You do know that the BMI rating is beyond outdated and really, shouldn't be used with it being so wrong...

At 6ft 4 apparently I should be 12-14 stone... Aye OK...

It doesn't take muscle mass into consideration at all as well as a lot of other things...

It really needs to be binned
It’s a very useful measure in nearly everyone but a handful of professional athletes.

Nearly everyone who dismisses it like this seems to be a total lard-arse who isn’t anything like the shape of the genuine exceptions.
So being muscular is a lard arse...

What utter bks you spout

Sticks.

8,990 posts

256 months

Friday 31st May
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Being able to breathe easily through your nose will help. I find this useful https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01JH0LIZO/ref...


fatandwheezing

Original Poster:

421 posts

163 months

Saturday 1st June
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TGCOTF-dewey said:
Caddyshack said:
I use mouth tapes which work well and somehow your body knows to keep your nostrils open.

They feel a bit claustrophobic on first use but do try them.

I get them from amazon
My mate recommended them. I've used them a few times - they do work.
Interesting. I've seen those and initially dismissed them due to looking horrific. I feel like staying off my back, and keeping my nose open is important.

On the BMI point, I've never paid any attention to that. I'm pretty much the same weight as I've been for years, but a slipped disc 18 months ago prompted a lifestyle change to build up my non existent core strength.

h0b0

8,006 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd June
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I became a snorer when I was about 40. I used iphone APPs to self diagnose sleep apnea. I bought a cpap machine and my snoring stopped. It also told me I absolutely don’t have sleep apnea and the APPs were crap.

One thing that became immediately obvious was that my breathing when going to sleep was all wrong. Girlfriends had always told me my rate sped up and it was quite aggressive. When I first started using the cpap machine I was fighting it really hard. After a couple of nights I was breathing normally.

Unfortunately, I still snore when not using the machine.

milu

2,404 posts

271 months

Monday 3rd June
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As mentioned above. It’s all about nose breathing. Not mouth breathing. Lots of science about this in all aspects of life.


quinny100

954 posts

191 months

Monday 3rd June
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h0b0 said:
I became a snorer when I was about 40. I used iphone APPs to self diagnose sleep apnea. I bought a cpap machine and my snoring stopped. It also told me I absolutely don’t have sleep apnea and the APPs were crap.
How did you deduce from a CPAP machine that you don’t have sleep apnea?

The average AHI values on my CPAP machine are less than 1 and I have severe sleep apnea, it’s just well treated by the machine being dialed in after a lot of experimenting.

You need to measure your blood oxygen levels during sleep to determine whether you have it. Mine never drop below 95% using CPAP, without it they would drop to sub 70% which is bad.

I’d suggest the OP go and speak to their GP and ask for a sleep study. Most NHS trusts will give you a bit of kit to wear overnight that logs all sorts of data including snoring, position and oxygen levels - it’s very straightforward. Think of it as a screening as much as a diagnostic tool - if it rules out more serious problems then you’re better placed to look at the snoring on its own - it will show if there is a positional element to it. You’ll probably get an ENT appointment quicker if you need one too.

andyA700

3,149 posts

42 months

Monday 3rd June
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Ken_Code said:
d_a_n1979 said:
You do know that the BMI rating is beyond outdated and really, shouldn't be used with it being so wrong...

At 6ft 4 apparently I should be 12-14 stone... Aye OK...

It doesn't take muscle mass into consideration at all as well as a lot of other things...

It really needs to be binned
It’s a very useful measure in nearly everyone but a handful of professional athletes.

Nearly everyone who dismisses it like this seems to be a total lard-arse who isn’t anything like the shape of the genuine exceptions.
Oh dear. When I weghed 70kg and was a competitve cyclist, my wife taped me snoring, so I went to the doctor with the evidence and he dismissed it, saying I was not overweight. Even when I started to inevitably put on weight because I was so tired I would fall asleep at work, he dismissed it. This was 25 years ago and I had never heard of sleep apnoea. In 2002, weighing 95 kilos he finally relented and sent me to St Thomas's. They found that I was stopping breathing 68 times per hour.
So please don't generalise.