Milk Thistle - wonder herb or nonsense?
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Hi folks. I remember a colleague about twenty years ago swearing by this supplement after a night on the drink.
Just came into my mind this evening and looked up some videos about it online. Seems quite the natural remedy. Has anyone taken it or any recommendations? Is it as good as they claim or placebo?
https://youtu.be/r0qkWUTc8m4?si=MHMgRxU0mCR9ovjw
Cheers
Just came into my mind this evening and looked up some videos about it online. Seems quite the natural remedy. Has anyone taken it or any recommendations? Is it as good as they claim or placebo?
https://youtu.be/r0qkWUTc8m4?si=MHMgRxU0mCR9ovjw
Cheers
d_a_n1979 said:
Read more and you'll see it's mainly tosh...
However a banana (potassium) and electrolytes are much better for you as they replace what you really need
Just by sheer coincidence I bought a bunch of bananas on the way home last night. Used to regularly eat them but have got out of the habit. I'll try to eat more of them. However a banana (potassium) and electrolytes are much better for you as they replace what you really need
xx99xx said:
It's unlikely to see off or prevent a hangover but it can improve liver health (according to some studies) if taken long term. I suspect those studies didn't factor in a constant supply of alcohol though.
It's cheap supplement so take it for a few months and make up your own mind.
Oh I wouldn't be taking it because of hangovers, I don't tend to drink enough to suffer badly from them anyway. It's cheap supplement so take it for a few months and make up your own mind.
It's the more rounded antiinflammatory properties I'm interested in. Surely that has a positive effect on the whole body and not just the liver but they only major in the liver.
It's something I'm considering in a more holistic approach to improving my health. My iron levels are elevated but apparently lower than previous results which I wasn't informed of. This can affect vital organs especially liver. Total cholesterol is 6.7 of which the bad type is about 4. I got a referral letter from GP for private US scan of liver last October. This showed moderate fatty liver issues. The scanner wasn't a liver specialist but said about 30% of population at my age 50 would be the same, alcohol consuming or not. I don't know if he passed results to GP but I've not been contacted.
I refused the GPs offer of Statins too which scanner and other medics have advised me to reconsider.
Reassuringly he scanned the rest of my torso and said everything else looked healthy.
I'm away for a brisk walk now before being desk bound the rest of the day.
Cheers.
As a (ex) heavy drinker I've been taking these for years. No idea how much benefit they have really, but I took them as my late dad recommended them and said they were often recommended by doctors to improve liver health (as already mentioned). I'm still here even though plenty have told me I should probably be dead by now, but that's hardly a very scientific recommendation 
However, I don't think they do any harm and are certainly cheap enough so I continue.
However, I don't think they do any harm and are certainly cheap enough so I continue.xx99xx said:
I tried drinking beetroot juice for a while. I like the taste. Pissing and s
tting red coloured stuff though put me off.
Haha; part n parcel tting red coloured stuff though put me off. 
I juice some of the beetroot I grow, from the boltardy to the golden beetroot etc - that sweetens the flavour a bit too much for me. It's nice mixed with a cloudy apple juice too and weirdly, the wife says; goes great as a savoury gin drink...
d_a_n1979 said:
xx99xx said:
I tried drinking beetroot juice for a while. I like the taste. Pissing and stting red coloured stuff though put me off.
Haha; part n parcel tting red coloured stuff though put me off. I juice some of the beetroot I grow, from the boltardy to the golden beetroot etc - that sweetens the flavour a bit too much for me. It's nice mixed with a cloudy apple juice too and weirdly, the wife says; goes great as a savoury gin drink...
TameRacingDriver said:
As a (ex) heavy drinker I've been taking these for years. No idea how much benefit they have really, but I took them as my late dad recommended them and said they were often recommended by doctors to improve liver health (as already mentioned). I'm still here even though plenty have told me I should probably be dead by now, but that's hardly a very scientific recommendation However, I don't think they do any harm and are certainly cheap enough so I continue.
Good to hear you're still around mate. Long may that continue. I think I'll give Milk Thistle a try and see. I don't feel or look like I've liver issues so I doubt I'll notice an improvement but it's probably a preventative measure as much as anything. However, I don't think they do any harm and are certainly cheap enough so I continue.Cheers.
MercedesClassic said:
d_a_n1979 said:
xx99xx said:
I tried drinking beetroot juice for a while. I like the taste. Pissing and stting red coloured stuff though put me off.
Haha; part n parcel tting red coloured stuff though put me off. I juice some of the beetroot I grow, from the boltardy to the golden beetroot etc - that sweetens the flavour a bit too much for me. It's nice mixed with a cloudy apple juice too and weirdly, the wife says; goes great as a savoury gin drink...
Not sure if the beetroot/beetroot juice is helping but it can't do any harm
The fibre in beetroot is good for other things too...! If you like it, deffo keep it in your diet
If you want to flush the liver take TUDCA, it's what cancer clinics use to fortify/replenish parts of the liver after intravenous chemotherapy application. Might be overkill though. The liver is pretty tough actually - think of a lifelong alcoholic and the abuse their liver gets yet cell/enzyme renewal keeps going.
d_a_n1979 said:
MercedesClassic said:
d_a_n1979 said:
xx99xx said:
I tried drinking beetroot juice for a while. I like the taste. Pissing and stting red coloured stuff though put me off.
Haha; part n parcel tting red coloured stuff though put me off. I juice some of the beetroot I grow, from the boltardy to the golden beetroot etc - that sweetens the flavour a bit too much for me. It's nice mixed with a cloudy apple juice too and weirdly, the wife says; goes great as a savoury gin drink...
Not sure if the beetroot/beetroot juice is helping but it can't do any harm
The fibre in beetroot is good for other things too...! If you like it, deffo keep it in your diet
popeyewhite said:
If you want to flush the liver take TUDCA, it's what cancer clinics use to fortify/replenish parts of the liver after intravenous chemotherapy application. Might be overkill though. The liver is pretty tough actually - think of a lifelong alcoholic and the abuse their liver gets yet cell/enzyme renewal keeps going.
Thanks for posting. I'd never heard of TUDCA but I've looked it up and wow, it seems to be a wonder potion. This is basically the man-made equivalent of bear's bile Chinese medics used to drain out of bears in a cruel way. I see it can be bought with milk Thistle blended in too, amongst other wonder ingredients. I'll give this some consideration. Thanks.
Since the OP mentioned using MT for drinking, and then people are now mentioning TUDCA, I did some reading tonight and it seems that you should avoid mixing TUDCA with alcohol, just FYI.
Link: https://gridiron-nutrition.com/2022/06/27/how-long...
It suggests against taking before and only taking after alcohol after a moderate amount.
I'm sure there will be other articles around, but as an example.
Link: https://gridiron-nutrition.com/2022/06/27/how-long...
It suggests against taking before and only taking after alcohol after a moderate amount.
I'm sure there will be other articles around, but as an example.
Edited by TameRacingDriver on Wednesday 15th May 22:30
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