overall energy levels are you age debate
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Hello all,
just having a long debate between a few friends and we cant (if there is) get to an answer.
between 10-15 years ago we all ate almost 0 veg , 0 fruit. out hammered 3/4 nights a week not sleeping great. remember (so we think) going to work feeling generally ok.
now we are early / mid 30s/ our overall general energy / tiredness levels are way worse - very noticeable
now
most of us eat ALOT better - less junk - less alcohol definitely - more sleep
we cant really seem to get an answer. i have touched on this before with my recent tiredness but overall it seems most of us notice it.
- can being mid 30s really give you that much less energy and go?
- actually being less active overall makes you more tired?
we couldn't really come up with any answers and before we all pass out in 2 hours id like to try come back to them with more
thankyou all
just having a long debate between a few friends and we cant (if there is) get to an answer.
between 10-15 years ago we all ate almost 0 veg , 0 fruit. out hammered 3/4 nights a week not sleeping great. remember (so we think) going to work feeling generally ok.
now we are early / mid 30s/ our overall general energy / tiredness levels are way worse - very noticeable
now
most of us eat ALOT better - less junk - less alcohol definitely - more sleep
we cant really seem to get an answer. i have touched on this before with my recent tiredness but overall it seems most of us notice it.
- can being mid 30s really give you that much less energy and go?
- actually being less active overall makes you more tired?
we couldn't really come up with any answers and before we all pass out in 2 hours id like to try come back to them with more
thankyou all
Being less active over all makes you more tired more easily. On a cellular level, the more active you are, the more Mitochondria you have so you can produce energy faster and more efficiently.
When you become less active, these Mitochondria (the powerhouses of cells) reduce - and when energy is needed, you’re less efficient and slower at producing it. Thus activity can seem a lot more tiring.
To counter it, be more active. The paradox of the more active you are, the more energetic you feel (within reason)
When you become less active, these Mitochondria (the powerhouses of cells) reduce - and when energy is needed, you’re less efficient and slower at producing it. Thus activity can seem a lot more tiring.
To counter it, be more active. The paradox of the more active you are, the more energetic you feel (within reason)
Mirinjawbro said:
Hello all,
just having a long debate between a few friends and we cant (if there is) get to an answer.
between 10-15 years ago we all ate almost 0 veg , 0 fruit. out hammered 3/4 nights a week not sleeping great. remember (so we think) going to work feeling generally ok.
now we are early / mid 30s/ our overall general energy / tiredness levels are way worse - very noticeable
now
most of us eat ALOT better - less junk - less alcohol definitely - more sleep
we cant really seem to get an answer. i have touched on this before with my recent tiredness but overall it seems most of us notice it.
- can being mid 30s really give you that much less energy and go?
- actually being less active overall makes you more tired?
we couldn't really come up with any answers and before we all pass out in 2 hours id like to try come back to them with more
thankyou all
I'm a fair bit older. I get pissed, have hangovers and I work hard. just having a long debate between a few friends and we cant (if there is) get to an answer.
between 10-15 years ago we all ate almost 0 veg , 0 fruit. out hammered 3/4 nights a week not sleeping great. remember (so we think) going to work feeling generally ok.
now we are early / mid 30s/ our overall general energy / tiredness levels are way worse - very noticeable
now
most of us eat ALOT better - less junk - less alcohol definitely - more sleep
we cant really seem to get an answer. i have touched on this before with my recent tiredness but overall it seems most of us notice it.
- can being mid 30s really give you that much less energy and go?
- actually being less active overall makes you more tired?
we couldn't really come up with any answers and before we all pass out in 2 hours id like to try come back to them with more
thankyou all
The difference between being a teenager and you is that someone paid your way, your time was free. Now you buy things and have to pay for them.
Our society says "grow up".
Why? Live life, enjoy it. It can end in a minute or 4 decades more.
This last line will cure your weary malaise.
One theory....being less active slows the metabolism over time. So the body provides you with less energy from your calorie intake.
It's not directly linked to age, but some people do tend to become less active with age for various reasons (work, family etc) which can feed the cycle of slowing metabolism, having less energy etc
And there are loads of other causes of fatigue to consider though. It's not just a getting old thing.
It's not directly linked to age, but some people do tend to become less active with age for various reasons (work, family etc) which can feed the cycle of slowing metabolism, having less energy etc
And there are loads of other causes of fatigue to consider though. It's not just a getting old thing.
Stress? When your young and carefree you have little stress, even mess up at work and you'll get another job, no life partner, no kids, still a kid yourself really.
Then your 35, Job, family, everything is very important and therefore stressful. Takes it's toll and makes you permanently knackered!
Then your 35, Job, family, everything is very important and therefore stressful. Takes it's toll and makes you permanently knackered!
There are so many more factors - metabolic rate, whether you are single or not, whether you have kids or not, general health, underlying health conditions (asthma etc.), smoker ex-smoker or never smoked, time of year, stress levels, sleep quality, fatigue, happiness, etc. etc. Everyone is individual, and can feel differently from week to week based on a whole host of variables.
To generalise here can be very misleading. Exercise is important - very few completely sedentary people are healthy - but not everyone benefits from the same level of exercise in the same way.
To generalise here can be very misleading. Exercise is important - very few completely sedentary people are healthy - but not everyone benefits from the same level of exercise in the same way.
Mirinjawbro said:
between 10-15 years ago we all ate almost 0 veg , 0 fruit. out hammered 3/4 nights a week not sleeping great. remember (so we think) going to work feeling generally ok.
now we are early / mid 30s/ our overall general energy / tiredness levels are way worse - very noticeable
In very simple terms, the reason we need to sleep is to allow our body to rebuild cells and create new ones and fix stuck synapsis in the brain that occur during the day (doing this whilst awake is akin to servicing your car whilst it's driving round the M25 - dreams are a reboot test to make sure everything's working).now we are early / mid 30s/ our overall general energy / tiredness levels are way worse - very noticeable
As we age, the quality of our cells deteriorate. Imagine and A4 sheet of paper with a black circle on it. You photocopy it. Then photocopy the photocopy and keep doing this and eventually you have an approximation of the original circle. And some cells can't be replaced meaning those synapsis have to find new cells to connect with.
So in short, when we're young, our bodies have less work to do. As we age, they have more work to do which takes it out of us more.
There are also some strong theories that suggest evolution hasn't yet caught up to the fact that we've doubled our life expectancy in just a few hundred years. So evolution expects that by the time we reach our mid 30s, we've completed all our reproduction duties and will be dispensed with over the coming 10 years or so, so there is no need to provide that joyful virility you had ten years prior.
There are ways to address this. Fernando Alonso is 42 but was recently tested and found to have the the athletic capacity of someone in their late 20s. The reason he's achieved this is because when he's not driving, he lives in a gym and eats bland but nutritious food.
(The above courtesy of Bill Bryson's book 'The Body')
I think as well, we put things down to age when its actually a lack of fitness and having gained weight.
Was watching someone the other day, who is 70 odd to be fair struggling to get out of a couch and cursing their age, but just maybe the 20 plus kilos of spare weight may be playing a part ? along with muscle wastage from lack of activity. If you are carrying an extra 30 percent weight, then you are using what, 30 percent more energy to move it, it is harder to move so you arent so keen on doing it. I know when my foot has been bad I have to plan whether I want to make the trip to say nip and get something from upstairs as it hurts, so the larger you get the less inclined to move you get and more things hurt/ache.
You can be fitter and lighter than folk half your age if you put your mind to it, but its hard and the couch and food are easy.
The person I mention sits on an exercise bike messing with their phone, just turning the pedals, better than nothing but you need that resistance to get the pulse up and the muscles working, see it at the gym all the time. Its largely pointless just sitting there, if you can interact and concentrate on a phone, you arent doing it right.
You have to work at it, until you cant any more.
Was watching someone the other day, who is 70 odd to be fair struggling to get out of a couch and cursing their age, but just maybe the 20 plus kilos of spare weight may be playing a part ? along with muscle wastage from lack of activity. If you are carrying an extra 30 percent weight, then you are using what, 30 percent more energy to move it, it is harder to move so you arent so keen on doing it. I know when my foot has been bad I have to plan whether I want to make the trip to say nip and get something from upstairs as it hurts, so the larger you get the less inclined to move you get and more things hurt/ache.
You can be fitter and lighter than folk half your age if you put your mind to it, but its hard and the couch and food are easy.
The person I mention sits on an exercise bike messing with their phone, just turning the pedals, better than nothing but you need that resistance to get the pulse up and the muscles working, see it at the gym all the time. Its largely pointless just sitting there, if you can interact and concentrate on a phone, you arent doing it right.
You have to work at it, until you cant any more.
J4CKO said:
I think as well, we put things down to age when its actually a lack of fitness and having gained weight.
Was watching someone the other day, who is 70 odd to be fair struggling to get out of a couch and cursing their age, but just maybe the 20 plus kilos of spare weight may be playing a part ? along with muscle wastage from lack of activity. If you are carrying an extra 30 percent weight, then you are using what, 30 percent more energy to move it, it is harder to move so you arent so keen on doing it. I know when my foot has been bad I have to plan whether I want to make the trip to say nip and get something from upstairs as it hurts, so the larger you get the less inclined to move you get and more things hurt/ache.
You can be fitter and lighter than folk half your age if you put your mind to it, but its hard and the couch and food are easy.
The person I mention sits on an exercise bike messing with their phone, just turning the pedals, better than nothing but you need that resistance to get the pulse up and the muscles working, see it at the gym all the time. Its largely pointless just sitting there, if you can interact and concentrate on a phone, you arent doing it right.
You have to work at it, until you cant any more.
Best post of the thread. I got fit in my late 20’s (now 36) and it was one of the best decisions I made. I cope with shift work a hell of a lot better (early starts no longer leave me drained in the afternoon), have much more energy, rarely get colds/ill and it’s a pretty liberating feeling being faster and stronger than I was ten years ago.Was watching someone the other day, who is 70 odd to be fair struggling to get out of a couch and cursing their age, but just maybe the 20 plus kilos of spare weight may be playing a part ? along with muscle wastage from lack of activity. If you are carrying an extra 30 percent weight, then you are using what, 30 percent more energy to move it, it is harder to move so you arent so keen on doing it. I know when my foot has been bad I have to plan whether I want to make the trip to say nip and get something from upstairs as it hurts, so the larger you get the less inclined to move you get and more things hurt/ache.
You can be fitter and lighter than folk half your age if you put your mind to it, but its hard and the couch and food are easy.
The person I mention sits on an exercise bike messing with their phone, just turning the pedals, better than nothing but you need that resistance to get the pulse up and the muscles working, see it at the gym all the time. Its largely pointless just sitting there, if you can interact and concentrate on a phone, you arent doing it right.
You have to work at it, until you cant any more.
Recovery from injury takes a little longer than my late 20’s but apart from following the rehab process & doing lots of mobility stretching, there’s not much you can do to influence it.
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