Hayfever!!

[Wildfire]

So we moved in September to an area with new / more trees etc. and the hayfever has set in with a vengence! Cetirizine leave me groggy all the next morning and the Loratadine seems not be working over 24 hours. Fexafenadine is short term, but again doesn't last a decent amount of time.

Anyone else suffering? Or even better know of something else that may help?

[egomeister]

Try wildfire maybe?

Cetirizine has been my general go to as its cheap as chips, then switch to Fexofenadine when things get bad. I assume you are taking them daily? I always find it takes a few days to "build up" in the system.

Failing that, the other thing I've found to work is a Fluticasone based spray such as Pirinase. Again, it takes a few days to get going but I try to avoid it if possible as I don't like using sprays for longer periods.

[Zarco]

Try Allevia. Was a game changer for me last year when hay fever seemed to be much worse than previous.

[Bannock]

I live surrounded by lime trees, and am plagued by this from February until July. Loratadine plus Beconase (generic versions of beclomethasone are available for cheaper) nasal spray just about keeps a lid on it.

Edited by Bannock on Monday 27th March 11:03

[Lemanandbeyond]

We moved next to a forest 3 years ago and it hit me really badly from Feb-April. The one medication that worked for me is Bilaxten, Dr said she prescribes it to pilots as it's less drowsy than others. You can also take up to six (with Dr approval only) to get it under control then two-3 a day keep it under control is the sweet spot for me.

It's been an absolute godsend !

[pavarotti1980]

Zarco said:

Try Allevia. Was a game changer for me last year when hay fever seemed to be much worse than previous.

Allevia is fexofenadine which the OP has already tried.

Wildfire said:

So we moved in September to an area with new / more trees etc. and the hayfever has set in with a vengence! Cetirizine leave me groggy all the next morning and the Loratadine seems not be working over 24 hours. Fexafenadine is short term, but again doesn't last a decent amount of time.

Anyone else suffering? Or even better know of something else that may help?

It will just be a case of trial and error of antihistamines but maybe a nasal spray for when required. Old school ones may be of more benefit such as chlorphenamine which are 4 x daily.

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Monday 27th March 11:00

[bigdom]

We pretty much live in a forest, and tree pollen is my nemesis.

I take cetirizine & loratadine daily, as the pharmacist recommended to use in that way, and have Beconase spray if the nose becomes stuffy. I get the groggy symptoms for a couple of days when I go back on them, then it settles down. Consistent usage is key - I've had the buy the missus a daily pill box! I used the company below, via Amazon last week and have bulk bought my tablets for the season.

https://ayp.healthcare/treathay-120mg-30-tablets?g...

I've recently added air conditioning to my home office, and the pollen filter in that is really making a difference. Whenever you're out and about, sunglasses really help. If it's grey and overcast, have ones where you can swap to clear lenses.

Edited by bigdom on Monday 27th March 12:19

Edited by bigdom on Monday 27th March 12:19

[Steve_H80]

I used to suffer hay-fever a lot worse than I do now, but I still get it.
I found cetirizine made me groggy, I prefer to loratadine. Both worked best for me when taken every day during the worst of my season as this seems to build up its protection, rather than just taking a pill when the fever strikes.

[FilH]

Tried all the tables , sprays , eye drops, most don't seem to do much.

For the the last few years, ive paid for the steroid injection, can't remember the name. And 3/4 days later its like a switch, no more symptoms or suffering. Seems to wear off a bit after 3 months, but enough to get me through the season.

Paid £70 last year

[Ashfordian]

wyson said:

FilH said:

Tried all the tables , sprays , eye drops, most don't seem to do much.

For the the last few years, ive paid for the steroid injection, can't remember the name. And 3/4 days later its like a switch, no more symptoms or suffering. Seems to wear off a bit after 3 months, but enough to get me through the season.

Paid £70 last year

This is exactly the same anti inflammatory mechanism I think my diet change brought about, stopping the hayfever and ezcema, except here you are achieving it with steroids. Modern industrial diets are very inflammatory, putting parts of your immune system into overdrive.

I'm not doubting that a diet change has not worked for you but I have had hayfever for 40+ years and the changes in diet over the years has made no difference. I do know that in my case milk makes my symptoms slightly worse.

I had the steroid injection once during the summer of my GCSE's and I agree with the above poster on its effects. It is definitely someone I would think about again if my hayfever was that bad for long periods.

[Paul Dishman]

FilH said:

Tried all the tables , sprays , eye drops, most don't seem to do much.

For the the last few years, ive paid for the steroid injection, can't remember the name. And 3/4 days later its like a switch, no more symptoms or suffering. Seems to wear off a bit after 3 months, but enough to get me through the season.

Paid £70 last year

Kenalog? That's had its product licence withdrawn for hay fever. MHRA say risks of use outweigh benefits

[FilH]

Paul Dishman said:

FilH said:

Tried all the tables , sprays , eye drops, most don't seem to do much.

For the the last few years, ive paid for the steroid injection, can't remember the name. And 3/4 days later its like a switch, no more symptoms or suffering. Seems to wear off a bit after 3 months, but enough to get me through the season.

Paid £70 last year

Kenalog? That's had its product licence withdrawn for hay fever. MHRA say risks of use outweigh benefits

Thats the one. And doh! My summer life will be complete st again then

When was it removed?


I did read about some issues, can't remember what they were tho. And never had any problems myself.

[ambuletz]

I'm fairly sure we have a hayfever thread that gets used annually for whenever this crops up. i tried to search it afew minutes ago but had no luck.
Looks like it's started for me, these windy/rainy days haven't done me any favours. That said it's sort of mild. i can feel the lining of the inside of my nose throbbing.

For me the tablets work 90% of the time.. there are some days where nothing seems to help. The only downside of taking the tablets is it can make the inside of my nostrils dry out and be very sensitive to getting nosebleeds, I've no idea how to counter this (i dont want to get it cauterised). A heavy sneeze or blowing of the nose can make it bleed. sometimes it can be as sensitive as me getting out of bed in the morning and it bleeding. Or if i'm having a bath and dunk my head into the water.

Edited by ambuletz on Wednesday 29th March 22:44

[skinnyman]

Paul Dishman said:

FilH said:

Tried all the tables , sprays , eye drops, most don't seem to do much.

For the the last few years, ive paid for the steroid injection, can't remember the name. And 3/4 days later its like a switch, no more symptoms or suffering. Seems to wear off a bit after 3 months, but enough to get me through the season.

Paid £70 last year

Kenalog? That's had its product licence withdrawn for hay fever. MHRA say risks of use outweigh benefits

Is this true? I've read it's no longer available via NHS, and whilst private clinics are able to offer it they're not allowed to advertise it. I had it last year, cleared up my symptoms in a few days and they didn't return all summer, I was hoping to have one every year going forward! Otherwise my summers are miserable

[FilH]

skinnyman said:

Paul Dishman said:

FilH said:

Tried all the tables , sprays , eye drops, most don't seem to do much.

For the the last few years, ive paid for the steroid injection, can't remember the name. And 3/4 days later its like a switch, no more symptoms or suffering. Seems to wear off a bit after 3 months, but enough to get me through the season.

Paid £70 last year

Kenalog? That's had its product licence withdrawn for hay fever. MHRA say risks of use outweigh benefits

Is this true? I've read it's no longer available via NHS, and whilst private clinics are able to offer it they're not allowed to advertise it. I had it last year, cleared up my symptoms in a few days and they didn't return all summer, I was hoping to have one every year going forward! Otherwise my summers are miserable

Just been off to find out, seems its still available via the usual lip filler clinic type place, as ive gone to the past few years, phew.

Its just nhs haven't allowed it since 2019, tho I never got anywhere in the past before, with getting my GP to give it to me, no matter how much i said the other stuff doesn't help one bit.

[skinnyman]

FilH said:

skinnyman said:

Paul Dishman said:

FilH said:

Tried all the tables , sprays , eye drops, most don't seem to do much.

For the the last few years, ive paid for the steroid injection, can't remember the name. And 3/4 days later its like a switch, no more symptoms or suffering. Seems to wear off a bit after 3 months, but enough to get me through the season.

Paid £70 last year

Kenalog? That's had its product licence withdrawn for hay fever. MHRA say risks of use outweigh benefits

Is this true? I've read it's no longer available via NHS, and whilst private clinics are able to offer it they're not allowed to advertise it. I had it last year, cleared up my symptoms in a few days and they didn't return all summer, I was hoping to have one every year going forward! Otherwise my summers are miserable

Just been off to find out, seems its still available via the usual lip filler clinic type place, as ive gone to the past few years, phew.

Its just nhs haven't allowed it since 2019, tho I never got anywhere in the past before, with getting my GP to give it to me, no matter how much i said the other stuff doesn't help one bit.

No exaggeration, it was life changing last year. After a rough spring I had the jab around June, few days later symptoms gone and didn't return all year. I had looked into sublingual immunotherapy, but that costs upwards of £100/mth, for 3-5yrs, and there's no guarantee it'll actually work, so that's a pass.

I have read the steroid jab can cause heart problems, and I currently have atrial fibrillation (irregular heartbeat), which I'm now wondering if last year's jab aggravated or even caused it. Oops

[swanseaboydan]

Allevia was a game changer for me

[ambuletz]

swanseaboydan said:

Allevia was a game changer for me

every year i seem to forget which ones work better for me than others. but last year i started using that and feel as though it lasted longer than the 'zines which seemed to fizzle out 12 hours after taking them.

[anonymous-user]

Beconase has been a life saver for me.

[Paul Dishman]

There are a couple of issues with Kenalog.

As it's illegal to advertise POMs (Prescription Only Medicines) in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority and the MHRA will take enforcement action against anyone who advertises that they'll administer it. That's aimed at private clinics plus the aesthetic lip filler practitioners.

The MHRA and the manufacturers have withdrawn the Kenalog product licence for the treatment of hay fever, which means that whoever administers it takes legal responsibility for its use. So if anything goes wrong there's no comeback on the manufacturer-it's all on the lip filler clinic who has given you the jab. They should have professional liability insurance, but that won't cover unlicensed medication, so you'd be personally suing the lip filler lady.

Best start practising your Compo faces now!

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra-and-cap-ta...

Edited by Paul Dishman on Thursday 30th March 09:23