Dead tooth, Leave or have extracted?

Dead tooth, Leave or have extracted?

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Rhonda

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1,744 posts

254 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Had some issues with one of my molars a few weeks back that coincided with some sinus issues. Dentist did some tests and declared that the tooth playing up had a dead nerve and was probably worth taking out to prevent future issues, he felt that root canal and having it capped had a lower chance of solving the issue. It’s an upper and the tooth in front of the wisdom tooth. It’s fine now and wondered if it was better to leave it in or have it extracted? Any dentists or knowledgeable people care to comment?

Thanks

Stan the Bat

9,254 posts

219 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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I had one once and the dentist left it in for years.

Never had a problem with it , one day it cracked and dentist whipped it out.


soad

33,458 posts

183 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Dentist fees/charges only tend to go up.

No harm in tackling it now?

sleepezy

1,946 posts

241 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Can only respond as a partly-knowledgeable person I'm afraid.

As someone whose tooth fell out, after a series of treatments to keep something there over a number of years previously, I am having my knuckles well and truly rapped by my dentist (someone whose acquaintance I may have not made for several years recently admittedly)

Upshot is, by delaying action, my bone may have become weakened and I may need a bone graft (for an implant) so I have recently, rather sheepishly, had an extraction and am currently waiting for the gum to heal over.

I cannot say whether a graft would be needed if no implant, sorry (I did say I was only partly-knowledgeable) . But the clear instruction was to remove a decaying stump.

Stan the Bat

9,254 posts

219 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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My dead tooth wasn't decaying.

The nerve had died and the tooth turned a sort of slightly greyish colour.

Never gave any problems.

sleepezy

1,946 posts

241 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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My partly-knowledgeable comment in 1st post refers smile

There are helpful dentists on here, hopefully one of them will comment from the other side of the drill. I will say the extraction is not the expensive part of the treatment I am having.

Rollin

6,176 posts

252 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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If the tooth is non vital and without a root filling, you risk developing a dental abscess. It's difficult to predict if or when this will happen, but if it does you are likely to experience pain, possibly facial swelling and spreading infection. Sod's law suggests this will happen when you are unable to access the swift treatment you will be screaming for....See Tom Hanks in Castaway.

What was the reason for not doing the root canal or referring you for one?


Just spotted my appropriate month count hehe

Edited by Rollin on Tuesday 31st January 20:32

Rhonda

Original Poster:

1,744 posts

254 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Rollin said:
If the tooth is non vital and without a root filling, you risk developing a dental abscess. It's difficult to predict if or when this will happen, but if it does you are likely to experience pain, possibly facial swelling and spreading infection. Sod's law suggests this will happen when you are unable to access the swift treatment you will be screaming for....See Tom Hanks in Castaway.

What was the reason for not doing the root canal or referring you for one?


Just spotted my appropriate month count hehe

Edited by Rollin on Tuesday 31st January 20:32
He felt the root canal and subsequent requirement to cap the tooth wouldn’t have enough of a probability of fixing the issue as removing it.

anonymous-user

61 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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The problem with removing one is that the teeth next door lose a bit of support.

rex

2,066 posts

273 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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Not easy to comment on s specific case but sinus problems can cause a tooth ache even though the tooth is not the problem. When the sinus problem clears up the tooth ache goes. If the nerve is dead on the tooth did they find out what caused the nerve to die. This could be decay, a fracture, trauma, a previous filling or crown to name a few. What tests did he do to establish the nerve was dead?
Even with these answers the decision to extract or try to save has to take other factors into account such as the way the teeth bite together, the condition of the teeth around it, how easy it is to clean, could it be crowned, are the canals a difficult shape, etc
Not just a simple decision in many cases.

Hope this helps but I fear it will just cause more questions.

Ryyy

1,730 posts

42 months

Tuesday 31st January 2023
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If I was told a tooth could cause me bother in the future I'd have it out in a heartbeat.

A couple of years ago I was in agonising pain over Christmas because I left a bad tooth, was such a relief when it was out. But, being me , the other tooth I was advised to have out that caused me a little discomfort every now and again I left because I wasn't overly keen on getting another extraction expecially when it was alright at the time.it came back in serious pain out of nowhere. Had it out the other week and couldn't thank the dentist enough smile never putting it off again.

Rhonda

Original Poster:

1,744 posts

254 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Thanks all, I’ll get the pliers out then!

mcdjl

5,490 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Rhonda said:
Thanks all, I’ll get the pliers out then!
Before you do I fell out and chipped one of my front incisors killing the I've next to it. I got earned it might need out/capping/refilling etc in a few years. 30 years on its still there no different.
I'd best get a visit to the dentist booked, that's jinxed it.

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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If you're NHS, having the tooth out won't cost a penny as it's regarded as an operation.

langtounlad

787 posts

178 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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I'd strongly suggest getting a referral to a specialist in root canal work. They can undertake work that a 'normal' dentist won't attempt and have a far better success percentage. 1. they do that all day 2. they use more specialised microscopes etc to achieve the desired outcome.

MickTravis665321

39 posts

23 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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pocketspring said:
If you're NHS, having the tooth out won't cost a penny as it's regarded as an operation.
What percentage of adults are registered with an NHS dentist? It's got to be under 1% right? It might as well not exist for the general population.

mcdjl

5,490 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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MickTravis665321 said:
What percentage of adults are registered with an NHS dentist? It's got to be under 1% right? It might as well not exist for the general population.
I doubt it's that low but know that is can't find one with space round here! E one I used to be with turned in to Bupa.

dxg

8,788 posts

267 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Rollin said:
If the tooth is non vital and without a root filling, you risk developing a dental abscess. It's difficult to predict if or when this will happen, but if it does you are likely to experience pain, possibly facial swelling and spreading infection. Sod's law suggests this will happen when you are unable to access the swift treatment you will be screaming for....See Tom Hanks in Castaway.

What was the reason for not doing the root canal or referring you for one?


Just spotted my appropriate month count hehe

Edited by Rollin on Tuesday 31st January 20:32
This is pretty much what happened to me. Despite a root canal filling.

Strangely no pain, but disgusting.

When the tooth comes out, if you have any inclination towards an implant get it done as soon as healing permits. Sitting around leads to bone wastage, which leads to bone graft...

Ask me how I know.

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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MickTravis665321 said:
pocketspring said:
If you're NHS, having the tooth out won't cost a penny as it's regarded as an operation.
What percentage of adults are registered with an NHS dentist? It's got to be under 1% right? It might as well not exist for the general population.
Pre pandemic, it was 50 per cent and now it's dropped to 36 per cent due to dentists closing during the pandemic and then opening back up private only to get the cash in quicker.

Rollin

6,176 posts

252 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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pocketspring said:
If you're NHS, having the tooth out won't cost a penny as it's regarded as an operation.
Only if you are exempt from NHS charges.

If not it would either be 23.80 or 65.20.