Calling all Cervix owners…
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This sort of thing I genuinely don't get what the fuss is about - cervical screening is for people who have a cervix. Not every woman has a cervix (it might have been removed in a hysterectomy), so it's not for all women by default.
It's like all the angst/comedy people found in tampons being marketed to 'people who menstruate'. That's literally the target user base - not all women menstruate, and some young female people who might otherwise be considered girls do menstruate.
And I have quite deliberately not mentioned anything about people who are trans - both those cases relate to entirely 'biological women'.
It's like all the angst/comedy people found in tampons being marketed to 'people who menstruate'. That's literally the target user base - not all women menstruate, and some young female people who might otherwise be considered girls do menstruate.
And I have quite deliberately not mentioned anything about people who are trans - both those cases relate to entirely 'biological women'.
I think it makes sense, as it acknowledges that people may not identify as per the typical Cervix owner, and also doesn't mean they will get caught up in a load of discussion about gender politics/identity or whatever by daring to mention women/females and gender specific anatomy, as it may alienate/offend those who have transitioned or are non binary etc.
So folk read it and ask themselves, do I want my Cervix checking for HPV ?
Its very simple and there are no ifs or buts, whatever you say or feel you are, you either have one or you dont and nothing can change that, well, maybe a Hysterectomy but then the question covers that, you can have it removed but its not like you can add one.
So folk read it and ask themselves, do I want my Cervix checking for HPV ?
Its very simple and there are no ifs or buts, whatever you say or feel you are, you either have one or you dont and nothing can change that, well, maybe a Hysterectomy but then the question covers that, you can have it removed but its not like you can add one.
That tweet doesn’t appear on my search of NHS Borders account ?
This does, maybe they’ve changed ?
https://twitter.com/nhsborders/status/161861351065...
This does, maybe they’ve changed ?
https://twitter.com/nhsborders/status/161861351065...
2xChevrons said:
This sort of thing I genuinely don't get what the fuss is about - cervical screening is for people who have a cervix. Not every woman has a cervix (it might have been removed in a hysterectomy), so it's not for all women by default.
It's like all the angst/comedy people found in tampons being marketed to 'people who menstruate'. That's literally the target user base - not all women menstruate, and some young female people who might otherwise be considered girls do menstruate.
Exactly. It's like all the angst/comedy people found in tampons being marketed to 'people who menstruate'. That's literally the target user base - not all women menstruate, and some young female people who might otherwise be considered girls do menstruate.
Works well to get those frothing who haven’t been near a cervix though
ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.
Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
What's ridiculous about it?Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
Cervical cancer is a serious issue why wouldn't they want to be inclusive If it helps get the message out?
How should it be written?
ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.
Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
What's ridiculous about it? Seemed very clear, and targets the required audience accurately.Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.
Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
But it's exclusionary for good reason. If you're a fella who's now a lass, the message doesn't apply to you. If you're a lass without a cervix, it doesn't apply to you. If you're a bloke who used to be a lass, it probably does apply .... the sentence perfectly describes the people who that message is for.Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.
Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
It's literally about cervical cancer. You need a cervix to get that. Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
ReallyReallyGood said:
But it's the ridiculousness of it.
Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
But (to pretty much reiterate my previous post), where's the ridiculousness?Do people with one arm get upset when they see TV ads of people selling jumpers? Or do they complain to Ofcom that it's exclusionary because not all people have two arms.
It's not about exclusion or 'upset'. It's about accuracy. The vaccine and the screening is for people with cervixes. If you don't have one, it doesn't affect you, whether you're a woman who used to have one but now doesn't because it was removed, never had one due to a genetic/developmental quirk, or if you are now living as a woman but you were born with male biology. And if you are now living as a man but still have a cervix the message does apply to you.
It's literally the most accurate, targeted and inclusive way of advertising the service there is. If it said "When any woman turns 25 they'll be invited for a cervical screening test" that would be less accurate and less inclusive than the message in the OP. See also: my earlier tampon-selling example.
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