heart rate, how low is too low?

heart rate, how low is too low?

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Crusoe

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4,078 posts

238 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Always been reasonably active, but quite far from super fit, could do a 5k but would struggle with further at the moment.

Not unusual for me to be in the low 40s when resting and seen 39 when in deep sleep. Resting average showing 58 overall going up to 190 when running at the weekend if I push myself a bit.

Is this too low or perfectly fine?

Web suggests "if you have bradycardia, your heart beats fewer than 60 times a minute. People who are physically very fit can have a heart rate as low as 40 bpm. But in people who aren't physically very fit, bradycardia is often a sign of problems with the heart."


mcelliott

8,976 posts

188 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Not usual, fasted I can get mine down to 34, see the quack if you're worried though.

Slagathore

5,968 posts

199 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Is it a new discovery, or have you been like that for years? Or was it like that before you started doing 5ks?

I used to be similar, resting around 40, in to mid 30s when asleep, but that was when I was training around 8 hours a week, so explainable and lacking any other symptoms, I was not concerned.

I guess it largely depends what is normal for you and if anything has changed.

I think if you are not super fit, as you say, then that could be a warning sign.

Crusoe

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4,078 posts

238 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Wearing a watch that monitors those types of thing every 10min for a couple of years, lost a bit of weight and get a bit fitter and it seems to drop more often. Struggle to get O2 saturation above 95% which might be related but generally feel fine and wouldn't think about it without the devices reporting.

Imasurv

454 posts

91 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Lots of people have a low heart rate, mines mid 40’s but was high 30’s when I was running more. Health centre were worried so strapped me to an ecg but all is fine. If you are active and fit it should be ok, but by all means get it checked if you are unsure.

okgo

39,353 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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I’d get it checked.

I had lower than your numbers by a bit but was doing 12 hours cardio a week.

Heathwood

2,798 posts

209 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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My RHR is around 50, dropping to 44 during the night time. I’m 48 and reasonably fit and active. I always assumed this was a sign that I was quite healthy but I’ve starting to have second thoughts now!

pidsy

8,208 posts

164 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Have an ECG done.
Takes 5 mins at the doctors.

It could be something - it’s more than likely nothing.

My low hR was something but I’m sorted now.

gangzoom

6,787 posts

222 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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If you are doing consistent cardio workouts and have no actual symptoms (dizziness/falls) I wouldn’t worry about HR of 40s or even high 30s especially at night.

Am not that fit, my FTP currently is barely 210watts, but my nocturnal HR is low 40s and last year dipped to high 30s when my FTP was around 10% higher.



Most smart watches now produce an ECG look-a-like, though their 'quality' is pretty poor for diagnosis of bradycardia. For example my Samsung phone say my ECG is 'sinus rhythm'/normal, which it 100% is but that's based on just rate. But the tracing produced is far from sinus, I cannot see any P waves so this could be heart block - meaning needing a potential pacemaker, the QT is also long - Googling Long QT and its worst effects will 100% raise your HR. The QRS complex is also small, normally suggests possible pericardial effusion - fluid around the heart.

So in short, if you have symptoms get it checked out, otherwise don't worry too much, and 100% don't send your smart watch 'ECG' to your GP/doctor!!


Fozziebear

1,840 posts

147 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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Ive had mine around 36-38 chilling watching tv, I did a lot of miles weekly though, when I had my ECG done with broken rib it was 39 with no pain killers.

Roger Irrelevant

3,113 posts

120 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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My money's on 'perfectly fine'. In lots of cases having all this info available from smartwatches just serves to give people something to worry about if they're not bang on 'normal'. My rhr has always been low - it's under 40 now as I'm sitting at my desk. I do a lot of exercise but my brother who's not as active also seems to tick over at low 40s, as does my dad. Just the way we're made it seems and we're from a long-lived line so all is good.

Bob-iylho

724 posts

113 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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I was monitored over a weekend in hospital due low beat, resting is about 35-40. I'm very fit and consultant discharged me as fit and healthy.
I suspect you'll be the same.
I'm 57 and it's been low for at least 15 years.

isleofthorns

550 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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think it's not too usual, but get it checked if worried.

Do you have other associated issues like having a light-head, dizziness, feeling feint when standing up suddenly etc, ?

okgo

39,353 posts

205 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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That can also be brought in by being fit.

If you do fk all and have that then surely it’s an issue.

James6112

5,427 posts

35 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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I wouldn’t worry, but get checked if you think it unusual.
I’ve always run a lot, aged 60. Quite a swing..


Funk

26,578 posts

216 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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Crusoe said:
Wearing a watch that monitors those types of thing every 10min for a couple of years, lost a bit of weight and get a bit fitter and it seems to drop more often. Struggle to get O2 saturation above 95% which might be related but generally feel fine and wouldn't think about it without the devices reporting.
I would take the watch as only a guideline, certainly for things like O2 saturation - my Garmin Fenix 6 shows O2 sat of 90-92% typically but my fingertip one shows it as 97-99% so the watch under-reads by a considerable amount. However, knowing it under-reads means I can still use it for relative comparison (ie. if it drops to mid-80s then I really ought to check with the fingertip sensor!).

Fastpedeller

3,978 posts

153 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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A funny anecdote....... 30 years ago I had detached retinas (that's not the funny bit BTW). The doc was doing some checks (BP etc) and had told me a few minutes previously that I'd be operated on that afternoon. He then said "have you been in hospital for an operation before?" I answered in the negative. "Hmm, he said, you don't seem too bothered...... your pulse is only 65" "but it's normally 45 said I"
I was regularly doing 300 miles a week on the bike and competed in 12 hr time trials.

I'd suggest to the OP it's worth getting checked just to put your mind at rest and eliminate anything, but unless you have any symptoms you're probably ok.

monkfish1

11,967 posts

231 months

Sunday 22nd January 2023
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Mines always been low.

Everytime im in hospital, had a work medical etc, they always start asking my is if suffer from diziness or blackout. Which is a no.

If its normal for you, the its normal.

ajcj

798 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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I think I heard years ago that one of the top cyclists (Miguel Indurain perhaps?) had a resting heart rate of 28. Can you imagine sitting next to him in the cinema? It would sound like someone slamming a door in the next room every couple of seconds.

Crusoe

Original Poster:

4,078 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Funk said:
Crusoe said:
Wearing a watch that monitors those types of thing every 10min for a couple of years, lost a bit of weight and get a bit fitter and it seems to drop more often. Struggle to get O2 saturation above 95% which might be related but generally feel fine and wouldn't think about it without the devices reporting.
I would take the watch as only a guideline, certainly for things like O2 saturation - my Garmin Fenix 6 shows O2 sat of 90-92% typically but my fingertip one shows it as 97-99% so the watch under-reads by a considerable amount. However, knowing it under-reads means I can still use it for relative comparison (ie. if it drops to mid-80s then I really ought to check with the fingertip sensor!).
HR is on my watch but O2 I've measured on the finger sensor most days since covid times to monitor the changes [can see the two covids, bad cold and the recent flu thing on the chart as the large drop offs.] Do a bit of climbing so wondered if thickness of finger skin made a difference, seem to get a higher o2 stat using my pinkie but struggle to get into the normal range (95-99)

Edited by Crusoe on Tuesday 24th January 10:14