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Not sure where you are getting numbers from but according to the actual data seems back on trend to pre-covid levels.
Europe
Only real spike is 0 to 14 age group, which is probably due to kids not mixing normally.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
Europe
Only real spike is 0 to 14 age group, which is probably due to kids not mixing normally.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
Golfgtimk28v said:
Not sure where you are getting numbers from but according to the actual data seems back on trend to pre-covid levels.
Europe
Only real spike is 0 to 14 age group, which is probably due to kids not mixing normally.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
That’s 2021Europe
Only real spike is 0 to 14 age group, which is probably due to kids not mixing normally.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64209221
Upinflames said:
A different issue then. If your figures are correct then how come pretty much all western countries are reporting unprecedented excess deaths?
''EuroMOMO is a European mortality monitoring activity, aiming to detect and measure excess deaths related to seasonal influenza, pandemics and other public health threats.Official national mortality statistics are provided weekly from the 29 European countries or subnational regions in the EuroMOMO collaborative network, supported by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), and hosted by Statens Serum Institut, Denmark.''
Probably bill gates might have something to do with it or 5g,
Or excess deaths in older and younger spiking due to many factors including not mixing with others to build up immune responses. Poor people dying due to cost of living increase.
What does your data show?
Covid thread is here : https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
r3g said:
Covid thread is here : https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
It’s not covid. Or within 28 days of covidUpinflames said:
The elephant in the room.
Vaccines?
NHS at tipping point?
Lockdowns etc affected immunity?
It’s not just here it’s all over. Iceland is near 50%
What do you reckon?
Why no mention of the obvious? Vaccines?
NHS at tipping point?
Lockdowns etc affected immunity?
It’s not just here it’s all over. Iceland is near 50%
What do you reckon?
It's winter (which is usually when excess deaths spike) and there's a lot of flu and COVID about. And as a compounding factor everyone's turned the heating down because it's so expensive.
Golfgtimk28v said:
Upinflames said:
A different issue then. If your figures are correct then how come pretty much all western countries are reporting unprecedented excess deaths?
''EuroMOMO is a European mortality monitoring activity, aiming to detect and measure excess deaths related to seasonal influenza, pandemics and other public health threats.Official national mortality statistics are provided weekly from the 29 European countries or subnational regions in the EuroMOMO collaborative network, supported by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO), and hosted by Statens Serum Institut, Denmark.''
Probably bill gates might have something to do with it or 5g,
Or excess deaths in older and younger spiking due to many factors including not mixing with others to build up immune responses. Poor people dying due to cost of living increase.
What does your data show?
Saying 5g etc doesn’t make any problem go away if there is one. No one here said anything about that so you introducing it in a poor attempt to undermine any other argument than ‘everything is fine’ just makes you look foolish I’m afraid.
No one other than some real loons are saying 5g etc in relation to vaccines. There are some people asking if they are as safe as they were advertised. True figures are hard to find so people have their own biases as to whether good or bad, but saying that everyone that asks the question is a crazy person who believes bill gates is doing something or is into 5g and microchips or whatever other nonsense is just trying to tar everyone who is curious with the nutcase brush.
Edited by Douglas Quaid on Thursday 12th January 08:25
Well I don’t recall what year it was maybe 2018 or 2019 we had a massive flu death count.
2022 we had that nasty 2 week cold spell added to the cost of heating. I bet a lot of people just were too scared to turn the heating on warm enough for them.
No surprise with the winter flu this year being very bad we are seeing the record numbers again.
Oh and as the population increases yearly of course we will see more deaths per annum.
2022 we had that nasty 2 week cold spell added to the cost of heating. I bet a lot of people just were too scared to turn the heating on warm enough for them.
No surprise with the winter flu this year being very bad we are seeing the record numbers again.
Oh and as the population increases yearly of course we will see more deaths per annum.
Golfgtimk28v said:
Well 2021, people were still dying, that is clear, but as most recent data shows back on trend. Sounds like a slow news day.
Not quite.Excess deaths in 2022 among worst in 50 years
9% more than 2019 according to Tinfoil Hat Central on 10 Jan 2023 -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64209221
Golfgtimk28v said:
Not sure where you are getting numbers from but according to the actual data seems back on trend to pre-covid levels.
Europe
Only real spike is 0 to 14 age group, which is probably due to kids not mixing normally.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
You are misreading the graphs. See how mortality has been above the redline for months? Europe
Only real spike is 0 to 14 age group, which is probably due to kids not mixing normally.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
That indicates an increase that is more than ‘substantial
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