Covid/Vaccine and Irregular Heartbeats
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All, a few days after having my booster jab last December, I’ve had irregular heartbeats. I was referred to the arrhythmia clinic and was diagnosed with ectopic beats, and told they were just ‘one of those things’. I had two blood tests, an ECG and a 24 hour monitor. The ectopic beats were present in both ECGs but not considered anything that needed treatment. Both full blood tests were clear.
I’ve been back to the GP several times since, because something just doesn’t feel right, and it’s always the same response: “very common, don’t worry”. At one stage I thought stress could be causing them, so was on anti-anxiety medication for about 10 weeks. This had no effect at all, so that was stopped, and currently I’m not on any medication for anything.
Today I see the news articles about the excess deaths caused by irregular heartbeats could be attributed to Covid.
I did have Covid a couple of months after the booster, but the ectopic beats started well before that. So I assume it might be the vaccine that caused them.
Apart from going for a private consultation, I’m at a loss as to what to do.
Anyone with a similar story?
I’ve been back to the GP several times since, because something just doesn’t feel right, and it’s always the same response: “very common, don’t worry”. At one stage I thought stress could be causing them, so was on anti-anxiety medication for about 10 weeks. This had no effect at all, so that was stopped, and currently I’m not on any medication for anything.
Today I see the news articles about the excess deaths caused by irregular heartbeats could be attributed to Covid.
I did have Covid a couple of months after the booster, but the ectopic beats started well before that. So I assume it might be the vaccine that caused them.
Apart from going for a private consultation, I’m at a loss as to what to do.
Anyone with a similar story?
This guy, an NHS consultant cardiologist, has some good videos on ectopic beats. I found his explanations reassuring.
https://youtube.com/c/YorkCardiology
For me, the more aware I became of my heart and chest area, the more worried I became. Giving up coffee seems to have helped me too.
https://youtube.com/c/YorkCardiology
For me, the more aware I became of my heart and chest area, the more worried I became. Giving up coffee seems to have helped me too.
Slowboathome said:
This guy, an NHS consultant cardiologist, has some good videos on ectopic beats. I found his explanations reassuring.
https://youtube.com/c/YorkCardiology
For me, the more aware I became of my heart and chest area, the more worried I became. Giving up coffee seems to have helped me too.
Thanks, some good stuff there. Pre-Covid from what I saw. I just link the vaccine with their onset, and some physical effect that’s caused them.https://youtube.com/c/YorkCardiology
For me, the more aware I became of my heart and chest area, the more worried I became. Giving up coffee seems to have helped me too.
One of the biggest problems we have with the vaccine is that such a large percentage of the population had them. Its difficult to determine what was going to happen anyway and what was as a result of the vaccine. People were going to have strokes and they were going to have cardiac issues, but was it just coincidence or did the vaccine cause it?
It is normal. I've had it before and paid privately for some basic tests. The consultant wasn't fussed at all and was happy there was nothing going on, all the tests were fine and he took a really thorough history and basically said don't come back for 5 years unless anything changes. Never had any problems and not been back since.
But, when I had it, I hadn't just had a vaccine that has known adverse reactions like heart inflammation. The timing after the vaccine should be a bit of a red flag, and I would be insisting further investigation from the GP.
But I suspect there will be a massive wait.
I would go private just for peace of mind. No point f
king about when it comes to your heart.
But, when I had it, I hadn't just had a vaccine that has known adverse reactions like heart inflammation. The timing after the vaccine should be a bit of a red flag, and I would be insisting further investigation from the GP.
But I suspect there will be a massive wait.
I would go private just for peace of mind. No point f
king about when it comes to your heart.I read an article earlier which had Christina Pagel blaming covid with no mention of it possibly being the vaccine. It’s obviously going to be hard to say exactly what causes all cases but the complete refusal to even mention the possibility of the vaccine causing it seems a bit odd to me. But Pagel is someone who wants to jab everyone, including under 5s so the idea of it not being a perfect treatment is obviously abhorrent to her.
Hope it gets better for you soon.
Hope it gets better for you soon.
Edited by Douglas Quaid on Tuesday 20th September 23:14
Douglas Quaid said:
I read an article earlier which had Christina Pagel blaming covid with no mention of it possibly being the vaccine. It’s obviously going to be hard to say exactly what causes all cases but the complete refusal to even mention the possibility of the vaccine causing it seems a bit odd to me.
Hope it gets better for you soon.
It is odd that they can link it to covid but not the vaccine. It should perhaps at least get a mention as a possibility.Hope it gets better for you soon.
If one were cynical then there might be a reason for not mentioning the vaccine I suppose………..
K77 CTR said:
One of the biggest problems we have with the vaccine is that such a large percentage of the population had them. Its difficult to determine what was going to happen anyway and what was as a result of the vaccine. People were going to have strokes and they were going to have cardiac issues, but was it just coincidence or did the vaccine cause it?
Yeah, but I had the vaccine and the very next day I trod on a lego brick. Don't tell me that isn't cause and effect.Somewhat similar story.
I had irregular and racing heartbeat issues after the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine - bad enough that my doctor referred me to a cardiologist, where I had numerous blood tests for myocarditis, 24hr ECG etc all of which came back as acceptable. This started within 24hrs after the first dose, and continued for some time thereafter.
Hard to describe accurately, but these random racing heartbeats would also trigger some fairly unpleasant panic attacks (or something of that nature). What would have once been moderate exercise would leave me feeling terrible. Not a fun time at all.
I really wasn't keen on the second but unfortunately in NZ getting any kind of exemption was next to impossible - even though my GP thought it would be sensible to skip the second one as I'm hardly in a risky profile for Covid, to get an exemption here you had to fill in myriad paperwork and then have the Minister for Health personally approve it (this was at the peak of Covid hysteria here in NZ, where admitting you weren't 100% keen to get the jab was tantamount to pulling your pants down at the Queen's funeral).
Unlike the UK, you basically couldn't participate in society in any meaningful manner without the vaccine either (no cafes, no travel, no restaurants, no movies, heaps of jobs were made to require it) so I did get the second dose, only to get the Vax passport.
Interestingly enough I didn't have the same experience with the second, and seem to have come right since. I'm back to exercising as I used to, and don't have the same racing and irregular heartbeats.
If I had to guess, I'd say that there was definitely some kind of initial reaction - and perhaps I subconsciously ramped that up in my mind? It's all made more complicated because at the time there was basically zero discussion of side effects or issues allowed in the media in NZ ... it's only now some of these issues are being raised.
Hopefully you find a solution.
I had irregular and racing heartbeat issues after the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine - bad enough that my doctor referred me to a cardiologist, where I had numerous blood tests for myocarditis, 24hr ECG etc all of which came back as acceptable. This started within 24hrs after the first dose, and continued for some time thereafter.
Hard to describe accurately, but these random racing heartbeats would also trigger some fairly unpleasant panic attacks (or something of that nature). What would have once been moderate exercise would leave me feeling terrible. Not a fun time at all.
I really wasn't keen on the second but unfortunately in NZ getting any kind of exemption was next to impossible - even though my GP thought it would be sensible to skip the second one as I'm hardly in a risky profile for Covid, to get an exemption here you had to fill in myriad paperwork and then have the Minister for Health personally approve it (this was at the peak of Covid hysteria here in NZ, where admitting you weren't 100% keen to get the jab was tantamount to pulling your pants down at the Queen's funeral).
Unlike the UK, you basically couldn't participate in society in any meaningful manner without the vaccine either (no cafes, no travel, no restaurants, no movies, heaps of jobs were made to require it) so I did get the second dose, only to get the Vax passport.
Interestingly enough I didn't have the same experience with the second, and seem to have come right since. I'm back to exercising as I used to, and don't have the same racing and irregular heartbeats.
If I had to guess, I'd say that there was definitely some kind of initial reaction - and perhaps I subconsciously ramped that up in my mind? It's all made more complicated because at the time there was basically zero discussion of side effects or issues allowed in the media in NZ ... it's only now some of these issues are being raised.
Hopefully you find a solution.
Boringvolvodriver said:
It is odd that they can link it to covid but not the vaccine. It should perhaps at least get a mention as a possibility.
If one were cynical then there might be a reason for not mentioning the vaccine I suppose………..
But they told us the vaccines were 100% safe and effective! If one were cynical then there might be a reason for not mentioning the vaccine I suppose………..
otherman said:
K77 CTR said:
One of the biggest problems we have with the vaccine is that such a large percentage of the population had them. Its difficult to determine what was going to happen anyway and what was as a result of the vaccine. People were going to have strokes and they were going to have cardiac issues, but was it just coincidence or did the vaccine cause it?
Yeah, but I had the vaccine and the very next day I trod on a lego brick. Don't tell me that isn't cause and effect.(Of course I could be due a parrot for missing the sarcasm in your comment)
If you are concerned go private.
I was recently diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat. It took around 4 weeks from having a private referral, seeing a cardiologist, some tests, seeing another cardiologist, to having a procedure done. The 1st cardiologist mentioned if I'd stayed in the NHS I'd have been waiting 10 weeks to get an appointment for the tests.
It's probably nothing, but for peace of mind (assuming you are worried) its probably worth spending several hundred.
I was recently diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat. It took around 4 weeks from having a private referral, seeing a cardiologist, some tests, seeing another cardiologist, to having a procedure done. The 1st cardiologist mentioned if I'd stayed in the NHS I'd have been waiting 10 weeks to get an appointment for the tests.
It's probably nothing, but for peace of mind (assuming you are worried) its probably worth spending several hundred.
Thanks all.
I know from when I went for the first ECG at the arrythmia clinic back in January that the consultant said there were no anomalies with my heart, and he didn't prescribe any treatment. A more recent GP examination also revealed nothing obviously wrong with the heart, just "one of those things". So I guess I've already had the "tests" to exclude anything major.
Still a very odd feeling, and pretty disconcerting.
I know from when I went for the first ECG at the arrythmia clinic back in January that the consultant said there were no anomalies with my heart, and he didn't prescribe any treatment. A more recent GP examination also revealed nothing obviously wrong with the heart, just "one of those things". So I guess I've already had the "tests" to exclude anything major.
Still a very odd feeling, and pretty disconcerting.
My heart beat was really odd after my booster (Pfizer) jab last December. I also managed to catch Covid at the same time so not sure what caused it but must have been one or the other as I’ve never had an issue before or since. I did go to A&E after calling 111 and they did an ECG but that came back fine. My main symptom was when I lay on my front to go to sleep my heart felt like it was pumping much harder than normal. Doctors said I was probably anxious but I’ve never had any issues with anxiety before. Thankfully all seemed to subside after a month or so.
Ungarsee said:
My heart beat was really odd after my booster (Pfizer) jab last December. I also managed to catch Covid at the same time so not sure what caused it but must have been one or the other as I’ve never had an issue before or since. I did go to A&E after calling 111 and they did an ECG but that came back fine. My main symptom was when I lay on my front to go to sleep my heart felt like it was pumping much harder than normal. Doctors said I was probably anxious but I’ve never had any issues with anxiety before. Thankfully all seemed to subside after a month or so.
Yeah, my ectopic beats cleared up after a month or so (early January), but then came back a couple of months later (March), and I've had them ever since.I’ve had ectopic / skipped heartbeats for 20 years. On some occasions they have been so severe (like a hundred in a row) that I have thought I’m going to pass out, but I never have. I’ve had every test under the sun and no issues. I do get pretty fruity blood pressure results, but it is white coat syndrome.
They are 100% linked to stress and anxiety. Things that exacerbate them:
Alcohol - more so hangovers than being pissed
Caffeine - not entirely but it doesn’t help
Anxiety - all the things you unconsciously do when anxious, shallow breathing etc
Lack of sleep - usually part of the hangover problem, but for me this is the biggie.
I have been prescribed beta blockers in the past and they do seem to calm things down.
The biggest medication help I have had is taking magnesium supplements. I take one every day.
The biggest mental help is accepting it is normal, it is not going to kill you and the more you worry about it the more you get.
Exercise also really helps (but I will sometimes get them when running)
Focussing on the last three things have meant my last three or four years have been pretty ectopic free, apart from a few isolated incidents.
They are 100% linked to stress and anxiety. Things that exacerbate them:
Alcohol - more so hangovers than being pissed
Caffeine - not entirely but it doesn’t help
Anxiety - all the things you unconsciously do when anxious, shallow breathing etc
Lack of sleep - usually part of the hangover problem, but for me this is the biggie.
I have been prescribed beta blockers in the past and they do seem to calm things down.
The biggest medication help I have had is taking magnesium supplements. I take one every day.
The biggest mental help is accepting it is normal, it is not going to kill you and the more you worry about it the more you get.
Exercise also really helps (but I will sometimes get them when running)
Focussing on the last three things have meant my last three or four years have been pretty ectopic free, apart from a few isolated incidents.
Edited by panholio on Monday 26th September 21:44
Ungarsee said:
My heart beat was really odd after my booster (Pfizer) jab last December. I also managed to catch Covid at the same time so not sure what caused it but must have been one or the other as I’ve never had an issue before or since. I did go to A&E after calling 111 and they did an ECG but that came back fine. My main symptom was when I lay on my front to go to sleep my heart felt like it was pumping much harder than normal. Doctors said I was probably anxious but I’ve never had any issues with anxiety before. Thankfully all seemed to subside after a month or so.
I had similar, day after the jab I was having some chest pains, 111 said to phone GP, GP didn’t have any appointments so said to go to A&E, didn’t go for some reason but all was fine the next day. My Garmin watch measures stress when I’m wearing it, I think it measures heart rate variability and assigns a score to it.
Day of the jab:
Day after, when my chest was hurting:
I've had irregular heartbeats for years. Every time I've changed GP it is 'discovered' again and I go through the normal tests.
The first time it was discovered officially was after my heart stopped beating for some minutes when I was undergoing a biopsy on full med, although a doctor way back in the late 70s noted it when she was checking what was, evidently, a concerning low heart rate allied to low blood pressure. I was very fit - going to a gym five days a week at least and a very active job.
Over the past 30 years or so I've had three lots of test for my missing heart beats, the last being three weeks ago, an ultrasound. The doctors' view seems to be you never know if something might have changed so test again. Nothing has it seems.
All doctors have stated it is nothing to worry about as I seem fine and I'm active. If I collapse I might take it up with them.
My symptoms, as such, are irregular, but similar to those being pointed out. I feel a little uncomfortable. If I take my pulse frequently and, on occasion, feel the 'missing' beat. For 45 years or so it's been with me it seems.
The first time it was discovered officially was after my heart stopped beating for some minutes when I was undergoing a biopsy on full med, although a doctor way back in the late 70s noted it when she was checking what was, evidently, a concerning low heart rate allied to low blood pressure. I was very fit - going to a gym five days a week at least and a very active job.
Over the past 30 years or so I've had three lots of test for my missing heart beats, the last being three weeks ago, an ultrasound. The doctors' view seems to be you never know if something might have changed so test again. Nothing has it seems.
All doctors have stated it is nothing to worry about as I seem fine and I'm active. If I collapse I might take it up with them.
My symptoms, as such, are irregular, but similar to those being pointed out. I feel a little uncomfortable. If I take my pulse frequently and, on occasion, feel the 'missing' beat. For 45 years or so it's been with me it seems.
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