Unusual heart rate the day after a long run

[MOBB]

I'm 50, run a bit, usually 5k, cycle a bit more. Quite a lot of that on an ebike. But I do push hard most of the time.

Heart rate during 5k's is generally 140-160 depending on how hard I push.

Heart rate on a non e-bike ride 130-150 generally

Heart rate on an ebike ride 110-130 generally, sometimes higher if I push really hard.

Yesterday morning I ran 10 miles "easy" on a treadmill, heart rate was 110-130 the whole run. I rarely run more than 5k or 10k so was pretty proud of myself! Felt good but tired afterwards. Zonked by 9pm and went to bed.

Woke up today tired but ok.

Rode the e-bike this morning to work fairly gently and my heart rate instantly went to 120 and then sat around 135-145 mostly, the odd spike to 150/160 and even 170. I was taking it really easy!

I get my HR from my Garmin Fenix, usually fairly consistent so I think i trust it.

Is this normal? Is my body trying to fix itself from that run? Any reason to worry?

[wrencho]

Was it wrist based on the fenix or chest strap? Mine is notoriously unpredictable if I forget to put my garmin pro on. I can be easing along at 110 and then be doing 180.

I would suggest you invest in a chest HRM and then see how it goes.

[bunchofkeys]

I would also recommend, if you get a chest strap, that you use the ultrasound gel.
Since using that, i've never had a problem with the readings.

[Slowboathome]

MOBB said:

Yesterday morning I ran 10 miles "easy" on a treadmill, heart rate was 110-130 the whole run. I rarely run more than 5k or 10k so was pretty proud of myself! Felt good but tired afterwards. Zonked by 9pm and went to bed.

Woke up today tired but ok.

Rode the e-bike this morning to work fairly gently and my heart rate instantly went to 120 and then sat around 135-145 mostly, the odd spike to 150/160 and even 170. I was taking it really easy!

Is this normal? Is my body trying to fix itself from that run? Any reason to worry?

If that happened to me, my first thought would be that I needed a rest day or two. Raised heartbeat is a common sign of overtraining. Is your resting rate normal?

[jimmydash]

You would be insane to pay all that NI and then choose not to get checked out. A guy I golf with cycled 70 miles a week, was as skinny as a racing snake, great diet, not much booze etc. just had to have open heart surgery a few weeks ago following a weird heartbeat and a visit to A&E where they kept him in immediately. Get a grip man, you've only got one life. I'll await the lovely kind responses the others on PH will almost certainly give me for this advice.

[oddman]

MOBB said:

I get my HR from my Garmin Fenix, usually fairly consistent so I think i trust it.

Is this normal? Is my body trying to fix itself from that run? Any reason to worry?

Chest strap needed for exercise. When I forget mine HR unreliable.

Incidentally I noticed I've got HRV function following latest software update. Heart rate variability is a measure of how much input the heart i getting from the parasympathetic (rest/digest) or sympathetic (exercise/fight/flight)

Fenix has measured HRV for ages but feeds it into 'body battery' recovery and stress data. Long term monitoring of HRV can give you a clue to recovery and readiness for exercise.

[mattyprice4004]

jimmydash said:

You would be insane to pay all that NI and then choose not to get checked out. A guy I golf with cycled 70 miles a week, was as skinny as a racing snake, great diet, not much booze etc. just had to have open heart surgery a few weeks ago following a weird heartbeat and a visit to A&E where they kept him in immediately. Get a grip man, you've only got one life. I'll await the lovely kind responses the others on PH will almost certainly give me for this advice.

Seems eminently sensible - at A&E triage they'll slap a pulse oximeter on you and take your blood pressure / pulse / ECG etc which would show up anything as you mention.
The target time for triage is something quite short like 15 minutes from arrival, so you won't be waiting around all day either.

I went in with an odd heart feeling but it was stress-induced - I left my (terrible) job the next week and it fixed itself

[epom]

Don't ignore it, get it checked. Might be something as simple as your watch playing up but as someone who got quite a land earlier this year out of the blue I'd be advising getting checked.

[Craig W]

If you don't feel right then go get checked. But to add a counter point to the others who have posted so far, from my experience of fairly hard cycling training for 5 or so years...

You say you rarely do more than 5K but you pushed and ran 10K. Your body is knackered and is recovering, it's completely normal to have a high heart rate the day after.

If I'd done a particularly strenuous bike ride the following day my heart would be racing after walking up the 18 stairs to my office. Try not to worry about it, get some rest and you'll most likely be fine.

[superlightr]

yep get it checked out. Did you have any or how many covid vaccines/boosters?

[mattyprice4004]

superlightr said:

yep get it checked out. Did you have any or how many covid vaccines/boosters?

I can't really see the answer will give any useful information either way - I had apple juice for breakfast the day I had my (stress related) episode, does that mean we should blame the apple juice?

The jabs are safe, it's been proven many times by scientists the world over.

[superlightr]

mattyprice4004 said:

superlightr said:

yep get it checked out. Did you have any or how many covid vaccines/boosters?

I can't really see the answer will give any useful information either way - I had apple juice for breakfast the day I had my (stress related) episode, does that mean we should blame the apple juice?

The jabs are safe, it's been proven many times by scientists the world over.

Excess deaths are occurring. Sudden death and heart issue are reported for all ages. Sources to check if you wish or to keep your head in the sand. From the Telegraph for England and Wales "For 14 of the past 15 weeks, around 1,000 extra deaths each week, (none of which are due to covid.
If the current trajectory continues
Number of non-Covid excess deaths will soon outstrip covid deaths this year (2022)"


https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-a...
https://data.gov.scot/coronavirus-cov...

Scottish government
Deaths in Scotland are 11% above average for this time of year and have been above the average for the past 26 weeks

Indications and utility of cardiac genetic testing in athletes
June 16th 2022

https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/advan...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...

Up to 80% of athletes who die suddenly had no symptoms or family history of heart disease

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Excess all-cause mortality across counties in the United States, March 2020 to December 2021

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...

An estimated 936,911 excess deaths occurred during 2020 and 2021,

of which 171,168 (18.3%) were not assigned to Covid-19 on death certificates

(as an underlying cause of death)

Excess mortality in England and English regions

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022...

England and Wales

For 14 of the past 15 weeks, around 1,000 extra deaths each week, (none of which are due to covid

If the current trajectory continues

Number of non-Covid excess deaths will soon outstrip covid deaths this year (2022)

Circulatory and diabetes, cancers

Prof Carl Heneghan, director of the Centre for Evidence Based Medicine, Oxford University

Excess deaths began to increase noticeably from around the end of April.

They have stayed high compared with the past seven years.

The signals in the data suggest something is not quite right

Sustained rises in deaths should trigger an investigation,

that may involve accessing the raw data on death certificates,

a random sample of medical notes,

or analysing autopsies.

I feel there is a lack of clear thinking at the moment and, when it comes to people’s health and wellbeing, you can’t wait – it’s unacceptable

England and Wales, 681 excess deaths at home, (28.1% more than expected)

https://www.gov.uk/government/statist...

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIj...

Our world in data excess deaths

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mor...

Excess deaths = Reported deaths – Expected deaths

and an easy to watch youtube summary.
https://youtu.be/5wLu98NygrA

Perhaps the OP hasnt had any covid jabs?

Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 31st August 14:47

[mattyprice4004]

I'm all for everyone being able to have their own opinion - that's absolutely fine (and without doubt some interesting content there).

But IMO, it's all just excess deaths due to COVID still being so rife; the jab only ever lessened the severity of infection rather than gave a cast-iron guarantee people wouldn't be infected.
I think that if the jab was really such a killer it'd be bigger news by now.

[superlightr]

mattyprice4004 said:

I'm all for everyone being able to have their own opinion - that's absolutely fine (and without doubt some interesting content there).

But IMO, it's all just excess deaths due to COVID still being so rife; the jab only ever lessened the severity of infection rather than gave a cast-iron guarantee people wouldn't be infected.
I think that if the jab was really such a killer it'd be bigger news by now.

keep thinking that if you wish - the data is showing otherwise.

Have a watch of the video and look at the sources -Tell me then if you still think its all ok. its 1000 people a week just in Eng and Wales of all ages from Non covid issues. Thats a significant number. The video plots this over the last number of years for context.

[smn159]

Some good advice on here (mainly...). Sounds like overtraining if you've gone from 5k to 10 miles suddenly. What does the Fenix say about your training load?

Do get it checked just in case though - your doctor will take this stuff seriously and likely refer you for an ECG stress test, which will pick up anything untoward.

[Ashfordian]

MOBB said:

I'm 50, run a bit, usually 5k, cycle a bit more. Quite a lot of that on an ebike. But I do push hard most of the time.

Heart rate during 5k's is generally 140-160 depending on how hard I push.

Heart rate on a non e-bike ride 130-150 generally

Heart rate on an ebike ride 110-130 generally, sometimes higher if I push really hard.

Yesterday morning I ran 10 miles "easy" on a treadmill, heart rate was 110-130 the whole run. I rarely run more than 5k or 10k so was pretty proud of myself! Felt good but tired afterwards. Zonked by 9pm and went to bed.

Woke up today tired but ok.

Rode the e-bike this morning to work fairly gently and my heart rate instantly went to 120 and then sat around 135-145 mostly, the odd spike to 150/160 and even 170. I was taking it really easy!

I get my HR from my Garmin Fenix, usually fairly consistent so I think i trust it.

Is this normal? Is my body trying to fix itself from that run? Any reason to worry?

My first thought is you are fatigued and this is your body responding to this. How did the duration of your 10 mile run compare to the cycling and running activities you do? How much exercise had you done over the few days before the 10 mile run?

Also, the weather has turned cooler in the last couple of days so could your body also be working harder to keep warm?

Have you exercised today? How did your data look for these activities? If still out of your normal range it may be worth following the advice of others and getting it checked out.

[Trevor555]

MOBB said:

I get my HR from my Garmin Fenix, usually fairly consistent so I think i trust it.

I'm not sure how accurate they are.

I tried on a Garmin Venu 2 smart watch in a shop a couple of weeks ago, and the guy was telling me to go seek medical help.

I bought a blood oxygen sensor for £8.99 and that hasn't given me any readings to be concerned about.