Lactose intolerance
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So i did some food allergy / intolerance testing a couple of weeks back, mainly because i've been suffering from boughts of severe fatigue / lightheadness over recent years which could be down to diet (have had most, if not all other things tested!). I've never really considered diet as a culprit so might be worth looking at, especially as i've never eliminated anything and just eaten whatever I please.
Anyway...
Turns out i'm 97% intolerant to cows milk, 70% to Wheat and 45% to Gluten.
In amongst a couple of other things like Onions (30%) and egg whites.
I'm led to believe that all humans have a dairy intolerance to some degree, but mine seems particulalry savage so I have a couple of questions.
1/ Can a dairy intolerance cause fatique and lightheadeness - I've never had to dash to the kazi after eating dairy, ever?
2/ What are lactose tablets, and are they to stop a toilet dash moreso than the tiredeness-type symptoms?
Anyway...
Turns out i'm 97% intolerant to cows milk, 70% to Wheat and 45% to Gluten.
In amongst a couple of other things like Onions (30%) and egg whites.
I'm led to believe that all humans have a dairy intolerance to some degree, but mine seems particulalry savage so I have a couple of questions.
1/ Can a dairy intolerance cause fatique and lightheadeness - I've never had to dash to the kazi after eating dairy, ever?
2/ What are lactose tablets, and are they to stop a toilet dash moreso than the tiredeness-type symptoms?
They are lactase tablets.
This is the enzyme that digests lactose, so they help your body to deal with milk, cheese, cream, etc.
Honestly don't know whether they will help with fatigue symptoms, etc., but they definitely help me not having to dash to the kazi!!
One thing you might find is that if you start cutting out dairy, you may become more sensitive to it and the toilet dash might become more of a thing. This is what happened for me, but I do find that I feel better generally - fewer upset stomachs.
This is the enzyme that digests lactose, so they help your body to deal with milk, cheese, cream, etc.
Honestly don't know whether they will help with fatigue symptoms, etc., but they definitely help me not having to dash to the kazi!!
One thing you might find is that if you start cutting out dairy, you may become more sensitive to it and the toilet dash might become more of a thing. This is what happened for me, but I do find that I feel better generally - fewer upset stomachs.
Sim75 said:
1/ Can a dairy intolerance cause fatique and lightheadeness - I've never had to dash to the kazi after eating dairy, ever?
I cannot really help as such, but Casey Stoner (2x MotoGP world champion) suffered heavily with fatigue throughout his racing career which was diagnosed as lactose intolerance.LordGrover said:
If lactose is a trigger/'thing' for you, try goat's milk - available at most supermarkets.
That's the thing, It doesn't trigger anything per se - like a toilet dash.It's just bouts of fatigue and tiredness that come and go to varying degrees.
When i gave it some thought, there's not a day that's gone by where i haven't had dairy - so it could be related. (emphasis on could)
I've filled up the fridge with all manner of oat and soya milk stuff - but was curious about the tablets for the odd occasion.
I've been lactose intolerant since about age 18 (now 40). It used to be quite bad with stomach cramps and diarrhea. I only discovered the Lactase pills around 5 years ago.
They work perfectly at stopping my symptoms mentioned above.
Interestingly, I've never heard of lactose intolerance causing fatigue-like symptoms, and I have been eating more dairy lately as my symptoms are far less severe than they used to be. I've also been feeling a bit knackered generally and not been taking the pills really so perhaps it's connected.
They work perfectly at stopping my symptoms mentioned above.
Interestingly, I've never heard of lactose intolerance causing fatigue-like symptoms, and I have been eating more dairy lately as my symptoms are far less severe than they used to be. I've also been feeling a bit knackered generally and not been taking the pills really so perhaps it's connected.
witko999 said:
I've been lactose intolerant since about age 18 (now 40). It used to be quite bad with stomach cramps and diarrhea. I only discovered the Lactase pills around 5 years ago.
They work perfectly at stopping my symptoms mentioned above.
Interestingly, I've never heard of lactose intolerance causing fatigue-like symptoms, and I have been eating more dairy lately as my symptoms are far less severe than they used to be. I've also been feeling a bit knackered generally and not been taking the pills really so perhaps it's connected.
what pills do you take mate? and when do you take them... seems like a minefieldThey work perfectly at stopping my symptoms mentioned above.
Interestingly, I've never heard of lactose intolerance causing fatigue-like symptoms, and I have been eating more dairy lately as my symptoms are far less severe than they used to be. I've also been feeling a bit knackered generally and not been taking the pills really so perhaps it's connected.
I've been lactose intolerant for the past 6 years or so... I can have a little but if I have too much I get a pain in my left side, no unscheduled trips but nothing can touch the pain so I have to curl up in a ball and try to sleep it off...
I try to have a little rather than cutting it out completely to keep my body a bit used to it, cutting it out completely can mean the effects are much worse when you have it after not being used to it.
I've recently got some different tablets that were recommended to me but haven't used them enough to comment to be honest.
I try to have a little rather than cutting it out completely to keep my body a bit used to it, cutting it out completely can mean the effects are much worse when you have it after not being used to it.
I've recently got some different tablets that were recommended to me but haven't used them enough to comment to be honest.
Mrs. Toon is lactose intolerant and her main symptoms are bloating and cramps. She swelled up badly in Thailand and we couldn't understand why until we realised the chef was cooking her eggs in butter. I don't think she's ever complained with your symptoms but that doesn't mean much, we are all different. My son is full dairy intolerant which seems to manifest itself in projectile vomiting.
Sim75 said:
witko999 said:
I've been lactose intolerant since about age 18 (now 40). It used to be quite bad with stomach cramps and diarrhea. I only discovered the Lactase pills around 5 years ago.
They work perfectly at stopping my symptoms mentioned above.
Interestingly, I've never heard of lactose intolerance causing fatigue-like symptoms, and I have been eating more dairy lately as my symptoms are far less severe than they used to be. I've also been feeling a bit knackered generally and not been taking the pills really so perhaps it's connected.
what pills do you take mate? and when do you take them... seems like a minefieldThey work perfectly at stopping my symptoms mentioned above.
Interestingly, I've never heard of lactose intolerance causing fatigue-like symptoms, and I have been eating more dairy lately as my symptoms are far less severe than they used to be. I've also been feeling a bit knackered generally and not been taking the pills really so perhaps it's connected.
We still do this because, until fairly recently, there weren't any sensible alternatives on sale here that were of similar strength, however, Holland & Barrett's Lactase Enzyme capsules are now similar strength to Lactaid. (The previous ones were about 1/6 of the strength so were very expensive.)
We've used these with success and have also used ones called LactoJoy that we got from Amazon which are also effective.
Edit: Forgot to mention that Lactaid isn't available here - up until a few years ago people were selling it on Amazon & Ebay (I guess importing it themselves) but I guess there isn't really a need considering that we have sensible alternative available locally for less/similar money.
Edited by Frankthered on Tuesday 26th July 10:00
I started getting horrid cramps when I had milk as a kid so stopped having it post teens
I just have oat/almond milk on my cereal now and coffee black (espresso) . I dont miss it. I can have dairy in foods so I don't suffer too bad, but a glass of milk would set me off. Not a milk fan so indifferent.
Its quite well documented, I think 1 or even 2 3rds of the world cant handle milk.
Yes it can cause drowsiness and brain fog - any intolerance can
My kids were a complete state when they were under 1, we stopped their milk (synthetic replacement instead ) and they immediately improved and they no longer have milk as it makes them poorly.
I recently cut right down on bread and wheat and instantly lost a stone and have more energy, my mum and sister are coiliac, I thought I might be, but I just tested negative, I think my body has a bit of an intolerance to wheat
Often with intolerances its not black and white, for example my son can handle baked eggs and dairy but not uncooked dairy. You can also have a tolerance to something to an extent. You can also suddenly develop and intolerance to something
I just have oat/almond milk on my cereal now and coffee black (espresso) . I dont miss it. I can have dairy in foods so I don't suffer too bad, but a glass of milk would set me off. Not a milk fan so indifferent.
Its quite well documented, I think 1 or even 2 3rds of the world cant handle milk.
Yes it can cause drowsiness and brain fog - any intolerance can
My kids were a complete state when they were under 1, we stopped their milk (synthetic replacement instead ) and they immediately improved and they no longer have milk as it makes them poorly.
I recently cut right down on bread and wheat and instantly lost a stone and have more energy, my mum and sister are coiliac, I thought I might be, but I just tested negative, I think my body has a bit of an intolerance to wheat
Often with intolerances its not black and white, for example my son can handle baked eggs and dairy but not uncooked dairy. You can also have a tolerance to something to an extent. You can also suddenly develop and intolerance to something
Edited by TwistingMyMelon on Monday 8th August 10:35
I've just turned 40 and think I'm lactose intolerant. It's a fairly recent development and discovery.
Examples include:
Had Ice cream a few days ago after dinner. It gave me proper gut rot and the worse smelling bottom burps I've had for ages. My GF got so sick of it she went to bed early. I couldn't help it
Tonight I had yoghurt with strawberries, plus a tiny bit of granola and a teaspoon of biscotti. Within about 10 minutes my stomach began hurting. Another 15 minutes later and I went to the toilet. Been sat here now for 20 minutes and half my insides have come out.
Will try to be more aware of what I'm eating and the effect it has on me
Examples include:
Had Ice cream a few days ago after dinner. It gave me proper gut rot and the worse smelling bottom burps I've had for ages. My GF got so sick of it she went to bed early. I couldn't help it
Tonight I had yoghurt with strawberries, plus a tiny bit of granola and a teaspoon of biscotti. Within about 10 minutes my stomach began hurting. Another 15 minutes later and I went to the toilet. Been sat here now for 20 minutes and half my insides have come out.
Will try to be more aware of what I'm eating and the effect it has on me
Sim75 said:
Could also be sugar.
Ice cream / fruit / granola being the culprits.
Ohhh yea could be right. Although I was trying to eat healthier alternatives due to losing weight.Ice cream / fruit / granola being the culprits.
Even the ice cream was low calorie Halo - which I had just on its own one night.
89 calories
9.5g of sugar
Last night I had:
Granola was 25g worth which is:
100 calories
4g of sugar
7g of protein
Protein yoghurt which was:
146 calories
10g of sugar
20g of protein
Handful of strawberries
Biscotti
(Probably too much actually looking at it now)
I was advised by a Nutritionist to take an L-Glutamine supplement to help strengthen my stomach lining (it did nothing)
But a good probiotic definitely helps all things gastro (sh!t like iron
) so i take those as a matter of course now.
Only other thing which does help, and the Greeks swear by it, is Mastika
But a good probiotic definitely helps all things gastro (sh!t like iron
) so i take those as a matter of course now.Only other thing which does help, and the Greeks swear by it, is Mastika
Edited by Sim75 on Wednesday 7th August 09:36
Edited by Sim75 on Wednesday 7th August 09:37
I've suffered all my life with lactose intolerance. I was diagnosed when I was 14. Before that they had me on all sorts of diets, including Complan which was a protien powder you add to milk. I have quite particular memories of that one. Between the ages of 4 and 14 I missed a lot of school.
For me, yes, consuming milk does lead to fatigue. Fatigue and bloating. Well fatigue, bloating and stomach cramps. And violent exploding bowel syndrome.
Some diary foods aren't too bad, Pizza just makes me tired and bloated, but ice cream is like setting off a small nuclear explosion in my stomach. Without dancing around the indelicacy a scoop of tutti-frutti can render me bog bound & in agony for two to three hours at a time.
All humans produce lactase - the enzyme needed to digest lactose for about the first two or three years of their lives, to allow them to drink their mothers milk. Then for some reason we stop making the lactase. In Europe, we've been dairy farming for a few thousand years and as a result Europeans have evolved to keep on making lactase.
I am of European stock, so I guess I'm a throwback!
The lactase tablets come on differeing strengths. The leading brand is Lactaid. From memory their normal tablets are 3000 units, but Lactaid Rapid have 9000 units per tablet. Lactaid Rapid tablets are available individually wrapped, ideal for shoving in a pocket.
Holland and Barrett's Lactase tablets are also 9000 units per tablet, they're much cheaper, but the jar they come in isn't really pocket sized.
With tablets I can eat stuff like Pizza and soft cheese with no ill effects. I was amazed when I ate my first Lactase assisted pizza that I didn't feel utterly stuffed afterwards - as I always had before. Yoghurt and cream based meals I still have to avoid, even with lactase. Ice cream is still a massive no-no, so I make my own using Arla's lactose free cream.
For me, yes, consuming milk does lead to fatigue. Fatigue and bloating. Well fatigue, bloating and stomach cramps. And violent exploding bowel syndrome.
Some diary foods aren't too bad, Pizza just makes me tired and bloated, but ice cream is like setting off a small nuclear explosion in my stomach. Without dancing around the indelicacy a scoop of tutti-frutti can render me bog bound & in agony for two to three hours at a time.
All humans produce lactase - the enzyme needed to digest lactose for about the first two or three years of their lives, to allow them to drink their mothers milk. Then for some reason we stop making the lactase. In Europe, we've been dairy farming for a few thousand years and as a result Europeans have evolved to keep on making lactase.
I am of European stock, so I guess I'm a throwback!
The lactase tablets come on differeing strengths. The leading brand is Lactaid. From memory their normal tablets are 3000 units, but Lactaid Rapid have 9000 units per tablet. Lactaid Rapid tablets are available individually wrapped, ideal for shoving in a pocket.
Holland and Barrett's Lactase tablets are also 9000 units per tablet, they're much cheaper, but the jar they come in isn't really pocket sized.
With tablets I can eat stuff like Pizza and soft cheese with no ill effects. I was amazed when I ate my first Lactase assisted pizza that I didn't feel utterly stuffed afterwards - as I always had before. Yoghurt and cream based meals I still have to avoid, even with lactase. Ice cream is still a massive no-no, so I make my own using Arla's lactose free cream.
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