Male pattern balding

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usn90

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1,640 posts

77 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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So I have thinning around my crown, had it looked at and I have telogen effluvium and early stage balding, although the T.E is making it look worse than it actually is which can eventually be reversed unlike the balding.

I appreciate male pattern balding is incredibly common and 90% of men will experience it at some point, however My confidence has taken a significant hit.

My dad has a full head of hair at 70, my uncle who is in his 50’s has a bald crown only.

A lot of peoples answer to balding is to just shave the lot off, however this would very much be worse case scenario for me, the shaved look is just not me, it would be transplants before it came to this.

Looking at the Norwood scales 1-7 on Google has done me no favours, although I’ve been told that not all men progress from one stage to another, the late stages are most likely when you started in your teens/ twenties with aggressive balding, has anyone experience of this, have you stayed at the stage you were originally?

My dermatologist confirmed this by saying my hair pattern will likely follow the pattern of others in my family, which going off my uncle would mean my crown will eventually go completely bald

bloomen

7,452 posts

166 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Does anyone pay attention to anyone's crown?

It's the front that causes most angst I would've thought. Mine's going in a v silly manner. I'd be dead pleased if it only the crown.

757

3,498 posts

118 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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The shaved look wasn't for me....I thought, I was receding and noticed when I just couldn't gel it correctly or as soon as the wind blew when I got out the car it was a mess, forever messing with it to hide it

Then I watched a great channel on YouTube called "The bald cafe" and just did it, my confidence has shot through the roof, and get so many compliments, just embrace it and get on with it smile


Muzzer79

11,060 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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I started losing it quickly in my 20s, then it distinctly slowed down.

My dad was bald as a coot in his early 30s. I have noticeably more than him in my 40s, but not enough to prevent shaving it off.

But it’s hair…..in the grand scheme of life, does anyone really care?

The only frustration I have is that it’s be nice to have a change of haircut. Baldness consigns you to one for the rest of your days.

Apart from that; couldn’t give a flying f….there’s far more pressing matters in life than some hair on your head.

usn90

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1,640 posts

77 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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bloomen said:
Does anyone pay attention to anyone's crown?

It's the front that causes most angst I would've thought. Mine's going in a v silly manner. I'd be dead pleased if it only the crown.
even though 99% of people won’t give a dam, or perhaps notice my crowns thinning, I’m fully aware and conscious over it, as I’ve said my confidence has taken a battering.

I’m hoping once I’ve fixed the telogen effluvium it will become much less noticeable, however the diagnoses of early pattern balding obviously will always be an issue.


Leptons

5,317 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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bloomen said:
Does anyone pay attention to anyone's crown?

It's the front that causes most angst I would've thought. Mine's going in a v silly manner. I'd be dead pleased if it only the crown.
Really? My crown went first and it stood out a mile. Got plenty of stick from my mates about it and looking back rightly so.

I still mourn the loss tbh.

It’s not what you want to hear, but shave it off and move on.

Wills2

24,411 posts

182 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Shave it down you don't need to shave it all off, or go for a Harry Metcalfe or an Alexander Armstrong, all depends on what you want and your hair, or get a transplant.

It's all fine, do what suits you and keeps you happy.


usn90

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1,640 posts

77 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
I started losing it quickly in my 20s, then it distinctly slowed down.

My dad was bald as a coot in his early 30s. I have noticeably more than him in my 40s, but not enough to prevent shaving it off.

But it’s hair…..in the grand scheme of life, does anyone really care?

The only frustration I have is that it’s be nice to have a change of haircut. Baldness consigns you to one for the rest of your days.

Apart from that; couldn’t give a flying f….there’s far more pressing matters in life than some hair on your head.
Yes I understand this very much.

Some people don’t care, some even go for the shaved look out of preference, however for me personally my confidence is at an all time low, and if my hair were to get worse my confidence would sky dive.

I had a bad mental health episode 5 years ago which I pulled myself out of, I don’t want to ever go down that road again so when it comes to self happiness etc I’d like to keep myself intact

Digger

15,181 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Indeed - I had severe male pattern baldness from the age of 17, decided to keep it short ever since my early 20’s as there really is no sensible cure.

53 now & still alive but yes it was a brief struggle at that early an age.

usn90

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1,640 posts

77 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Leptons said:
Really? My crown went first and it stood out a mile. Got plenty of stick from my mates about it and looking back rightly so.

I still mourn the loss tbh.

It’s not what you want to hear, but shave it off and move on.
How old were you when the crown went, and what sort of timeline form crown to the rest?

bloomen

7,452 posts

166 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Leptons said:
Really? My crown went first and it stood out a mile. Got plenty of stick from my mates about it and looking back rightly so.
Depends how far down it gets. It may only be a wee patch forever.

Digger

15,181 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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OP how old?

usn90

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77 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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32

usn90

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77 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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bloomen said:
Leptons said:
Really? My crown went first and it stood out a mile. Got plenty of stick from my mates about it and looking back rightly so.
Depends how far down it gets. It may only be a wee patch forever.
This is what I’m hoping to be the case for me, however seeing the Norwood scale ending with the horseshoe stage 7 look has filled me with extreme dread to be honest.

Must say it caught me by surprise, I’ve always had thick hair all over, needed hair cuts every 2/3 weeks, combined with my dads hair at at 70 I didn’t think I’d be facing such issues

Digger

15,181 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Then you are old enough to get yourself down to Argos & buy a nice set of hair clippers - take them home & look at them anxiously like many of us have done & not regretted it in the long run . . . wink

I do totally understand the trauma albeit it was a long time ago for me when I suffered big time as a teenager & very early 20’s.

bloomen

7,452 posts

166 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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usn90 said:
This is what I’m hoping to be the case for me, however seeing the Norwood scale ending with the horseshoe stage 7 look has filled me with extreme dread to be honest.
Baldness is so variable there's little reason to assume that it's going to continue to absolute zero. I know plenty of people with a patch that hasn't shifted forever.

My hairline went ever so slightly frilly at 25 and didn't budge for 20 years. Then it went for it.

Leptons

5,317 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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usn90 said:
How old were you when the crown went, and what sort of timeline form crown to the rest?
It was obvious around 29, I gave in around 32. Did have a relapse and grew it back once just to see but it was hopeless.

Still got a fair bit of hair everywhere else!

In all honesty I still don’t like it and I’m pushing 38 now but I don’t lose any sleep over it anymore!

usn90

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1,640 posts

77 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Digger said:
Then you are old enough to get yourself down to Argos & buy a nice set of hair clippers - take them home & look at them anxiously like many of us have done & not regretted it in the long run . . . wink

I do totally understand the trauma albeit it was a long time ago for me when I suffered big time as a teenager & very early 20’s.
As I said, for me currently the clippers are an absolute last resort, I’ll be going for the transplants if it came to it.

Meds wise there 2, one of which I don’t want to take as I enjoy my sex life, the other is less effective although I would try it.

The current plan from the dermatologist to wait 6 months too see if I can fix and reverse the telogen effluvium and see what the result of that would be

usn90

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1,640 posts

77 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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bloomen said:
Baldness is so variable there's little reason to assume that it's going to continue to absolute zero. I know plenty of people with a patch that hasn't shifted forever.

My hairline went ever so slightly frilly at 25 and didn't budge for 20 years. Then it went for it.
You see I don’t have anyone close enough with balding that I can ask ( my uncle isn’t an option either) it’s slightly reassuring to hear from actual people that in some cases it can Infact remain in one place/stage.

I’d like to think that if I were in a later stage of life I’d be more accepting, but currently I can’t, I fully sympathise for those who went through this earlier than myself

PHZero

1,333 posts

100 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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usn90 said:
As I said, for me currently the clippers are an absolute last resort, I’ll be going for the transplants if it came to it.

Meds wise there 2, one of which I don’t want to take as I enjoy my sex life, the other is less effective although I would try it.

The current plan from the dermatologist to wait 6 months too see if I can fix and reverse the telogen effluvium and see what the result of that would be
I do wonder how transplants work out in the medium to long term. If the transplanters fill in the bits that are missing, but your hairline continues to recede, then do you have to keep getting more and more transplants to keep on top of things. I'd imagine that it could be a losing battle for many. With the ultimate outcome being you end up with a head full of pubes.

I think i'd prefer to grow old gracefully and naturally. I've been slowly thinning on top, receding, and going gray for twenty years now. Since my twenties.

You can't fight getting old! Too many botoxed, facially filled and facelifted women demonstrate the pitfalls of trying to fight old age!