Unpopular opinion - NHS is useless
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Admitted by ambulance, live saving treatment - there's lots there to be thankful for absolutely.
Everything after that a shambles.
Doctors clearly told issues that were seen, they ignored them.
Doctors discharged saying the issue they were informed of was moderate.
Felt awful. Back and forth with GP.
One month to see a specialist, apparently.
Constantly phoning for an appointment.
See the specialist doctor after 6 weeks.
Refers to another doctor.
Trying to get an appointment with this guy, even worse. Took a month, but constant phoning, never responding to messages.
"I'll pass the message on, she's working at home" - told that numerous times, no one ever EVER got back to me.
Phoned and phoned. Basically begging in terms for an appointment. No one will tell you anything, no names nothing.
You never speak to the same person ever. No responsibility. Zero care. Constant fobbing off.
Get an appointment. With ANOTHER specialist. It lasts 12mins. He tried to make it last less.
He basically tried to say, your old, go away.
He then refers on to ANOTHER specialist!
More phoning, no response. Basically told 3 months for an appointment.
Decide to go Private. See the same doctor within a week.
Doctor says you should NEVER have been released from hospital when you were admitted by ambulance - that was nearly 3.5 months earlier.
How did they not spot this issue?
Have an op. Paid for on the NHS. I get the Op quickly, because I'm paying to see the surgeon privately (Op is on the NHS)
Get told it is important I have a follow up with the surgeon.
They forget to give me all the medicine that it says they would on my discharge report.
Try to get a follow up. Phoning and phoning. Guess what, they now never pick up the phone.
I phone using a different number, they pick up, and fob me off.
Now, they've sent a letter, saying post-op my GP is to sort it all out.
GP is shocked, and says he's not a surgeon.
Guess what, pay private, can see my surgeon next week...
The lack of care shown is unbelievable.
If it wasn't for a partner able to beg and constantly phone...
It's like they are just fobbing you off, and if you die - so what.
Imagine type the above. Imagine how you feel when someone who is employed to help, shows you ZERO care.
When people simply do not bother. I'm sorry, I don't buy that all these people are too busy. Especially the moment private is mentioned things happen instantly,and the level of care shown by THE SAME people is entirely different.
It is absolutely appalling.
Everything after that a shambles.
Doctors clearly told issues that were seen, they ignored them.
Doctors discharged saying the issue they were informed of was moderate.
Felt awful. Back and forth with GP.
One month to see a specialist, apparently.
Constantly phoning for an appointment.
See the specialist doctor after 6 weeks.
Refers to another doctor.
Trying to get an appointment with this guy, even worse. Took a month, but constant phoning, never responding to messages.
"I'll pass the message on, she's working at home" - told that numerous times, no one ever EVER got back to me.
Phoned and phoned. Basically begging in terms for an appointment. No one will tell you anything, no names nothing.
You never speak to the same person ever. No responsibility. Zero care. Constant fobbing off.
Get an appointment. With ANOTHER specialist. It lasts 12mins. He tried to make it last less.
He basically tried to say, your old, go away.
He then refers on to ANOTHER specialist!
More phoning, no response. Basically told 3 months for an appointment.
Decide to go Private. See the same doctor within a week.
Doctor says you should NEVER have been released from hospital when you were admitted by ambulance - that was nearly 3.5 months earlier.
How did they not spot this issue?
Have an op. Paid for on the NHS. I get the Op quickly, because I'm paying to see the surgeon privately (Op is on the NHS)
Get told it is important I have a follow up with the surgeon.
They forget to give me all the medicine that it says they would on my discharge report.
Try to get a follow up. Phoning and phoning. Guess what, they now never pick up the phone.
I phone using a different number, they pick up, and fob me off.
Now, they've sent a letter, saying post-op my GP is to sort it all out.
GP is shocked, and says he's not a surgeon.
Guess what, pay private, can see my surgeon next week...
The lack of care shown is unbelievable.
If it wasn't for a partner able to beg and constantly phone...
It's like they are just fobbing you off, and if you die - so what.
Imagine type the above. Imagine how you feel when someone who is employed to help, shows you ZERO care.
When people simply do not bother. I'm sorry, I don't buy that all these people are too busy. Especially the moment private is mentioned things happen instantly,and the level of care shown by THE SAME people is entirely different.
It is absolutely appalling.
Evanivitch said:
So the critically under funded system isn't performing well, what a surprise...
Ballpark, what has it close you? Probably a few hundred in consultant appointments. Private surgery and ambulance would have cost nearly £10k easily.
The NHS is taking more and more of our GDP yet getting worse, apparently....Ballpark, what has it close you? Probably a few hundred in consultant appointments. Private surgery and ambulance would have cost nearly £10k easily.
Money isn't the problem.
Johnnytheboy said:
Evanivitch said:
So the critically under funded system isn't performing well, what a surprise...
Ballpark, what has it close you? Probably a few hundred in consultant appointments. Private surgery and ambulance would have cost nearly £10k easily.
The NHS is taking more and more of our GDP yet getting worse, apparently....Ballpark, what has it close you? Probably a few hundred in consultant appointments. Private surgery and ambulance would have cost nearly £10k easily.
Money isn't the problem.
OP, if you had posted a thread about how you paid a plumber in advance and now you are flooded you can't get him to answer the phone, half the posts would be ROFLs. Yet that is how we must continue to pay for our Glorious Socialist Healthcare.
It won't change. A great many people are getting what they want from it now. Just not the patients.
It won't change. A great many people are getting what they want from it now. Just not the patients.
speedyguy said:
Evanivitch said:
So the critically under funded system isn't performing well, what a surprise...
Stop spouting complete b
ks, the utter waste and inefficiency needs putting down now and starting again from scratch.https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/news-item/nhs-rec...
Evanivitch said:
So the critically under funded system isn't performing well, what a surprise...
Ballpark, what has it close you? Probably a few hundred in consultant appointments. Private surgery and ambulance would have cost nearly £10k easily.
Wait till it happens to you or a loved one. Ballpark, what has it close you? Probably a few hundred in consultant appointments. Private surgery and ambulance would have cost nearly £10k easily.
I don't wish it upon you. But it will happen to you or a loved one.
You'll change your tune quickly enough.
speedyguy said:
Evanivitch said:
So the critically under funded system isn't performing well, what a surprise...
Stop spouting complete bks, the utter waste and inefficiency needs putting down now and starting again from scratch.Have you found your treatments lacking?
TCruise said:
Evanivitch said:
So the critically under funded system isn't performing well, what a surprise...
Ballpark, what has it close you? Probably a few hundred in consultant appointments. Private surgery and ambulance would have cost nearly £10k easily.
Wait till it happens to you or a loved one. Ballpark, what has it close you? Probably a few hundred in consultant appointments. Private surgery and ambulance would have cost nearly £10k easily.
I don't wish it upon you. But it will happen to you or a loved one.
You'll change your tune quickly enough.
speedyguy said:
Evanivitch said:
So the critically under funded system isn't performing well, what a surprise...
Stop spouting complete bks, the utter waste and inefficiency needs putting down now and starting again from scratch.I live in rural France, I get seen by my GP the next day, I get to see a specialist within a week. MRIs are organised within the week and the results given by a doctor there and then. Blood tests and results are same day.. I can go on.
The NHS needs changing radically, a two tier system for those who can pay and then the rest - Welcome to the modern world.
The NHS lives and breathes the empathy card 'What if a relative/friend/neighbour/colleague got something nasty etc etc'. All I've witnessed is lack of accountability and basic care that even third world countries can provide. If nurses and doctors could make a career out of being scarce, then we've certainly hit the jackpot
TCruise said:
Evanivitch said:
I would suggest you get into some counselling, quickly.
Quickly?Where from!?
And as the NHS tries to limit the use of drugs where it can, that means more and more invested in therapy sessions.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-brie...
You’ve only got to look in this forum at the general health concerns people have to see others, in good faith, insisting they attend their ED. Now. Not tomorrow. My aunty died from similar. Etc. People treat it like a walk in centre where all your worries will be resolved there and then.
Badda said:
You’ve only got to look in this forum at the general health concerns people have to see others, in good faith, insisting they attend their ED. Now. Not tomorrow. My aunty died from similar. Etc. People treat it like a walk in centre where all your worries will be resolved there and then.
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