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foxbody-87

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2,675 posts

173 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Just wondered if anyone else has had much experience of this. Recently I seem to have an internal voice that basically is sapping my motivation - I can’t see opportunity or positivity in anything and find myself frequently saying to myself, what’s the point. My wife has told me a few times I have turned into a right miserable bd.
As a side effect I seem to be getting increasingly angry, like everything is against me and that frustrates me. I have lost all tolerance for life’s little hiccups and trials.
The thing is, I know that my life is so much better than what many people have to deal with, so why is it so hard to convince myself of that?
It seems a vicious cycle because I can’t motivate myself to be healthy or exercise, which then makes me fume at myself for being so lazy.
Has anyone else had this and how did you roll yourself out of the rut?

PositronicRay

27,536 posts

190 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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I haven't. But at least you've recognised its a rut.

moorx

3,932 posts

121 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Depression perhaps? (sorry, I'm not an expert)

Have you considered contacting your GP? Or do you have any support services you can access via work?

Gretchen

19,237 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Lots of factors to consider, hormones, mid-life crisis, depression and now long term Covid… speak to your GP or 111 / helplines - does your employer offer any kind of helpline? Lots do.

I think a majority of people are/will be suffering after having worked through the last two years and made sacrifices, changes and lost loved ones.

Do you have hobbies and interests you can distract yourself with? Try some new ones. Just a walk in the evenings will clear your mind and help you relax.

Talking is a great start.

foxbody-87

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2,675 posts

173 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Gretchen said:
Lots of factors to consider, hormones, mid-life crisis, depression and now long term Covid… speak to your GP or 111 / helplines - does your employer offer any kind of helpline? Lots do.

I think a majority of people are/will be suffering after having worked through the last two years and made sacrifices, changes and lost loved ones.

Do you have hobbies and interests you can distract yourself with? Try some new ones. Just a walk in the evenings will clear your mind and help you relax.

Talking is a great start.
Yes they do have an advice service and it’s one I’ve told other staff about but never used myself, I think I’ll look into it.
Definitely need to try a new hobby or maybe get back in to something - I used to muck around making music (electronic) and could lose hours to it!

Gretchen

19,237 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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foxbody-87 said:
Yes they do have an advice service and it’s one I’ve told other staff about but never used myself, I think I’ll look into it.
Definitely need to try a new hobby or maybe get back in to something - I used to muck around making music (electronic) and could lose hours to it!
You need to take your own advice and use it (I’m a hypocrite slightly as do exactly the same).
Music sounds good. Do it. Get it on some platforms. Meet and chat to new people. My youngest met their girlfriend this way and she’s making a living from it! At 19!!


A500leroy

5,599 posts

125 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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100% depression and early mid life crisis. Unfortunatley only you can motivate yourself out of it with help.
Start asking for support now, because , trust me mate 99.9% of us go through this at some point and sometimes multipul times.

andyA700

3,346 posts

44 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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foxbody-87 said:
Just wondered if anyone else has had much experience of this. Recently I seem to have an internal voice that basically is sapping my motivation - I can’t see opportunity or positivity in anything and find myself frequently saying to myself, what’s the point. My wife has told me a few times I have turned into a right miserable bd.
As a side effect I seem to be getting increasingly angry, like everything is against me and that frustrates me. I have lost all tolerance for life’s little hiccups and trials.
The thing is, I know that my life is so much better than what many people have to deal with, so why is it so hard to convince myself of that?
It seems a vicious cycle because I can’t motivate myself to be healthy or exercise, which then makes me fume at myself for being so lazy.
Has anyone else had this and how did you roll yourself out of the rut?
I am not going to piggyback your thread, but I am in the same place myself - zero motivation, everything seems to be too much, little things going wrong really annoy me.
Hope that you get some good avice and help.

Jimmy No Hands

5,019 posts

163 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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I feel properly like this at 33. Can't remember the last time I was excited about something or felt genuinely relaxed.

foxbody-87

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2,675 posts

173 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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Do you have any hobbies or anything or has it all fallen by the wayside?
I’ve decided to try and get back into a few things I used to enjoy, I think when you’re a fully fledged adult there seems to be a slow mission creep towards never doing anything you enjoy other than working and watching telly. You see a lot of older guys with loads of hobbies and interests, there’s a lot to be said for it as they’ve probably been through the same!

Babber101

100 posts

125 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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OP I think this is a pretty common state and affects lots of people so I wouldn’t be too hard on yourself.

Easier said than done (I haven’t actually managed it myself) but you need to enrich your life by connecting to other people, helping others, finding a purpose/ meaning as frequently as possible even in trivial tasks (mowing the lawn, cleaning the car are all ways of feeling satisfaction in achieving something), exercise and the great outdoors.

Volunteering/charity work is a good way to tick many of those boxes

As I say I know it’s easy to spout it, harder to do but I believe it’s the only way

JulietRomeo

213 posts

154 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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Talk to your doctor, ask for some blood tests. My own experience showed a lower than ideal vitamin d result which is easily remedied with off the shelf vitamin supplement

Jack.77

456 posts

51 months

Saturday 4th June 2022
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I believe when feeling like this ,to improve the situation it’s more about changing the overall outlook on life and then everything changes and these things are seen in a different more positive way

I’d think about healthy eating ,getting a good work balance, and a new hobby , It could be as simple as tinkering with an old car or diy related .walking boating fishing etc .lots and lots to consider

Babber101

100 posts

125 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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OP I think this is a pretty common state and affects lots of people so I wouldn’t be too hard on yourself.

Easier said than done (I haven’t actually managed it myself) but you need to enrich your life by connecting to other people, helping others, finding a purpose/ meaning as frequently as possible even in trivial tasks (mowing the lawn, cleaning the car are all ways of feeling satisfaction in achieving something), exercise and the great outdoors.

Volunteering/charity work is a good way to tick many of those boxes

As I say I know it’s easy to spout it, harder to do but I believe it’s the only way

ozzuk

1,236 posts

134 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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JulietRomeo said:
Talk to your doctor, ask for some blood tests. My own experience showed a lower than ideal vitamin d result which is easily remedied with off the shelf vitamin supplement
This! Or use a service like medicheck. Vitamin D deficiency can contribute to your way of feeling. also, depression is a catch all statement. You are depressed for sure, but don't get hung up on 'I have depression' as that brings it's own issues.

Prolonged background high stress levels can also give symptoms you describe - I know I need to take a break from work when I get snappy at little things or my tolerance levels drop. At those times do something different for a few days to reset - fill your 'reservoir'. Camping is a good one, but find what works for you.

Speaking of 'reservoirs', look up resilience training/guides. Look at things that empty your reserviour/lake/bucket, and things that fill it. Obv then find more to fill it. Saying I have depression just feeds it all and gives you a psychological kop out. (Not taking away anything away from people suffering from clinical depression).


TameRacingDriver

18,575 posts

279 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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andyA700 said:
foxbody-87 said:
Just wondered if anyone else has had much experience of this. Recently I seem to have an internal voice that basically is sapping my motivation - I can’t see opportunity or positivity in anything and find myself frequently saying to myself, what’s the point. My wife has told me a few times I have turned into a right miserable bd.
As a side effect I seem to be getting increasingly angry, like everything is against me and that frustrates me. I have lost all tolerance for life’s little hiccups and trials.
The thing is, I know that my life is so much better than what many people have to deal with, so why is it so hard to convince myself of that?
It seems a vicious cycle because I can’t motivate myself to be healthy or exercise, which then makes me fume at myself for being so lazy.
Has anyone else had this and how did you roll yourself out of the rut?
I am not going to piggyback your thread, but I am in the same place myself - zero motivation, everything seems to be too much, little things going wrong really annoy me.
Hope that you get some good avice and help.
Same here. In fact, I wrote a thread about it around 4 years ago. So many things wrong, I barely even know where to start.

The worst of it is, I went away with some 'friends' last week, who just constantly took the piss and basically labelled me a negative miserable git, even though I felt I was trying not to be. Now I don't want to speak to any of them.

I had 3 socials events planned for this weekend. I've cancelled the lot, because I don't want to deal with anyone. Except we now have a visitor on Thursday. Great frown

At least I can work from home, so I don't have to see anyone.

I think I've been on a downhill spiral for years, but the lockdown definitely made it a lot worse for me, and I don't feel like I've recovered from that at all.

I hope you get sorted. I'm just trying to address things one step at a time. Booze for me I'm sure is at the core of it, and tonight is the first night off in god knows how long = even more depressed! Nobody said it would be easy though... good luck.

nammynake

2,608 posts

180 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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Don’t underestimate the benefits of exercise. Taking the first step is the most difficult, but you should try to take that step. You need to work up a sweat, but anything will do - a run, a brisk walk, game of squash. Anything. Start tomorrow and don’t allow the idea to fester.

foxbody-87

Original Poster:

2,675 posts

173 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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I’m going to do some cardio and some weights tomorrow. Nothing too crazy, but I can’t help feeling if I can motivate myself to do something I might feel a little more in control. At the moment I feel every time I crap out on doing something it chips away my resolve a little bit each time and it needs to be built back up before it ends up lower than whale st!

HustleRussell

25,205 posts

167 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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Interesting. I’ve felt this way recently. I have been depressed before and I this, to me, feels like the threshold.

Working from home is a significant contributing factor for me. I know this but I continue to do it because it’s easier. The other main thing is that I don’t exercise anymore.

Pre-covid, in retrospect, I had things pretty well balanced. Covid has broken my good habits and I need to get the balance back by changing my lifestyle.