Rotator cuff tear…!!!!!
Discussion
Evening all.
About 5 weeks ago I dislocated my shoulder while skiing.
X-ray at resort nothing broken, so put back in while sedated.
Git home, had MRI scan, confirmed Rotator cuff tear, full depth.
Since then I can now do most things again, but still hurts if I get my shoulder in a certain position.
For what it’s worth, no problem dressing myself or showering etc.
What I would like to, as physio has been recommended by my specialist, has anyone had physio for this & if so, how effective was it in getting your shoulder back to full movement.
Also, if recent, how are you now.
My age is 55, relatively fit.
Any help, feed back would be gratefully appreciated.
Regards.
Dave.
About 5 weeks ago I dislocated my shoulder while skiing.
X-ray at resort nothing broken, so put back in while sedated.
Git home, had MRI scan, confirmed Rotator cuff tear, full depth.
Since then I can now do most things again, but still hurts if I get my shoulder in a certain position.
For what it’s worth, no problem dressing myself or showering etc.
What I would like to, as physio has been recommended by my specialist, has anyone had physio for this & if so, how effective was it in getting your shoulder back to full movement.
Also, if recent, how are you now.
My age is 55, relatively fit.
Any help, feed back would be gratefully appreciated.
Regards.
Dave.
I subluxed my left shoulder over ten years ago skiing, with RC tear. I had a cortisone injection after a couple of months which calmed it down massively.
But now it still gripes occasionally and there are certain positions which are very uncomfortable (eg lying on my left side for a long period of time). It doesn’t stop me doing anything though, and it is physically as strong as the right side. It’s just something you end up living with.
But now it still gripes occasionally and there are certain positions which are very uncomfortable (eg lying on my left side for a long period of time). It doesn’t stop me doing anything though, and it is physically as strong as the right side. It’s just something you end up living with.
SlimJim16v said:
It needs surgery now, otherwise it'll be a long path to partial recovery. Which one, the rotator cuff comprises 4 muscles?
My specialist says from the MRI scan he’s happy I don’t need an op.But, if I gets worse, then it will, of which I will be straight to my local surgery to be put waiting list.
BlackWidow13 said:
I subluxed my left shoulder over ten years ago skiing, with RC tear. I had a cortisone injection after a couple of months which calmed it down massively.
But now it still gripes occasionally and there are certain positions which are very uncomfortable (eg lying on my left side for a long period of time). It doesn’t stop me doing anything though, and it is physically as strong as the right side. It’s just something you end up living with.
Have you still gone skiing since.But now it still gripes occasionally and there are certain positions which are very uncomfortable (eg lying on my left side for a long period of time). It doesn’t stop me doing anything though, and it is physically as strong as the right side. It’s just something you end up living with.
Dave3166 said:
BlackWidow13 said:
I subluxed my left shoulder over ten years ago skiing, with RC tear. I had a cortisone injection after a couple of months which calmed it down massively.
But now it still gripes occasionally and there are certain positions which are very uncomfortable (eg lying on my left side for a long period of time). It doesn’t stop me doing anything though, and it is physically as strong as the right side. It’s just something you end up living with.
Have you still gone skiing since.But now it still gripes occasionally and there are certain positions which are very uncomfortable (eg lying on my left side for a long period of time). It doesn’t stop me doing anything though, and it is physically as strong as the right side. It’s just something you end up living with.
Swimming was quite good for it IIRC.
BlackWidow13 said:
God yes! Zero impact on skiing. I find it reacts badly to being held in very specific fixed positions for extended periods, so skiing isn’t an issue.
Swimming was quite good for it IIRC.
LOL, I will go skiing again no doubt, just need to get the first day out the way when I do.Swimming was quite good for it IIRC.
Yeah, swimming could be a good thing for me to.
Dave3166 said:
SlimJim16v said:
It needs surgery now, otherwise it'll be a long path to partial recovery. Which one, the rotator cuff comprises 4 muscles?
It’s the muscle down the outside of the shoulder if that makes sense.Recent studies show individuals with full depth tears can do very well without surgery.
Sorry, can't leave this...
OP, see a physio, do your exercises and try to avoid anti-inflammatories. Decent movement and function 5 weeks post dislocation is good going, so build on that.
SlimJim16v said:
infrared, ... and cold/hot treatment.
Given how good the body is at managing superficial heat, and how deep supraspinatus is, what would you expect to achieve with this?SlimJim16v said:
ultrasound
What evidence is there that this will help (rather than impeding) recovery? And in particular, what evidence of effective dose and treatment frequency is there?OP, see a physio, do your exercises and try to avoid anti-inflammatories. Decent movement and function 5 weeks post dislocation is good going, so build on that.
Hi there.
Just read my notes, it is the ‘Supraspinatus’..!!!
Great info here guys, sounds like, hopefully in time I will get full movement back.
As I said, getting easier all the time, will be getting physio with out a doubt, but in the mean time I’m using ice on it & generally moving it as much as possible, but not passed the point of pain, incase it makes i worse.
Also running again, biking, gardening etc, whilst being very careful.
Thanks again guys.
Just read my notes, it is the ‘Supraspinatus’..!!!
Great info here guys, sounds like, hopefully in time I will get full movement back.
As I said, getting easier all the time, will be getting physio with out a doubt, but in the mean time I’m using ice on it & generally moving it as much as possible, but not passed the point of pain, incase it makes i worse.
Also running again, biking, gardening etc, whilst being very careful.
Thanks again guys.
Bill said:
What evidence is there that this will help (rather than impeding) recovery? And in particular, what evidence of effective dose and treatment frequency is there?
OP, see a physio, do your exercises and try to avoid anti-inflammatories. Decent movement and function 5 weeks post dislocation is good going, so build on that.
Absolutely, not doing to bad to be fair.OP, see a physio, do your exercises and try to avoid anti-inflammatories. Decent movement and function 5 weeks post dislocation is good going, so build on that.
I will say, being taken down the mountain by the superb ski patrol people was an experience in itself.
I fell through poorly set up scaffold 3 years ago stepping off a roof and did a number on my rotator cuff as i landed on my elbow which dislocated my shoulder, it popped back in by itself but then fell back out an hour later that required a trip to a/e to get relocated. Nhs were pretty useless with any info on what the best course of action was so i went down the private physio route as i couldn't afford to be off work for the months it was going to take to see a shoulder specialist and I'm no good at sitting about, i was out washing the van one arm in a sling a few days after the dislocation.
From my experience the more you use the muscles (no lifting above chest height the first month) the sooner you'll gain full movement and strength again providing your physio is happy with your progress. I was back at work doing light duties within 3 weeks from the dislocation and in part that saved my muscles from degrading being stuck in a sling and not keeping the shoulder moving.
I went to my physio every other week for about 3 months so he could help me gain full strength back in the muscles and to help focus on strengthening muscles and learning how to lift things that took some strain off the rotator cuff itself.
6 months from my a/e trip i got an nhs shoulder specialist appointment come through and they recommended surgery as id had 3 dislocations, never mind the fact id just lifted him up off the floor during his strength test. I declined as that would mean going back to square one and being off for months again.
I see my physio every 6 weeks now mostly just to get all my muscles loosened off from being in a physical job and i haven't had any feeling of the shoulder letting go so far. Keep heavy lifting above my head to a minimum just incase but it hasn't stopped me lugging roof trusses about etc
worst case if i dislocate it again in the future i know ill need the surgery but until then i can carry on as normal.
From my experience the more you use the muscles (no lifting above chest height the first month) the sooner you'll gain full movement and strength again providing your physio is happy with your progress. I was back at work doing light duties within 3 weeks from the dislocation and in part that saved my muscles from degrading being stuck in a sling and not keeping the shoulder moving.
I went to my physio every other week for about 3 months so he could help me gain full strength back in the muscles and to help focus on strengthening muscles and learning how to lift things that took some strain off the rotator cuff itself.
6 months from my a/e trip i got an nhs shoulder specialist appointment come through and they recommended surgery as id had 3 dislocations, never mind the fact id just lifted him up off the floor during his strength test. I declined as that would mean going back to square one and being off for months again.
I see my physio every 6 weeks now mostly just to get all my muscles loosened off from being in a physical job and i haven't had any feeling of the shoulder letting go so far. Keep heavy lifting above my head to a minimum just incase but it hasn't stopped me lugging roof trusses about etc
worst case if i dislocate it again in the future i know ill need the surgery but until then i can carry on as normal.
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