Coldzyme

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fourstardan

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4,858 posts

149 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Noticed this om the shelf when buying nightnurse (zillionth cold caught with an 18 month old).


https://coldzyme.co.uk/

Is it effective?

Brum_Brum

539 posts

228 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Day of going to Le Mans with mates a few years back, pretty pissed off as I felt like I was coming down with a cold.
Local pharmacist suggested it saying he knew a few people swore by it. Took it religiously on the trip down every 2 hours until the bottle ran out and thankfully symptoms didn’t get any worse, the cold never materialised.
So..seems to work for me, although need to start using as soon as I get the familiar dry itchy throat when a cold is rearing it’s head.

It’s pricey though,… I’m a tight git, but small price to not having a bloody cold.

peterg1955

746 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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I haven't used that particular product but I have used Vicks First Defence nasal spray which was recommended to me by a nurse friend of mine as I am susceptible to colds with a very reduced immune system.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,499 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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I can't see any research on their website? Also.... Why the mouth? We largely breathe through our noses..... I think you'd be better off with a nasal rinse, nebuliser or something like xclear nasal spray, personally.

fourstardan

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

149 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Yeh coldzyme was 15 quid.

I assumed it was some sort of daily supplement but I guess its used to prevent getting a cold at certain times.

Im sick of colds/sinus infections since my little germ monster arrived I really am.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,499 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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fourstardan said:
Yeh coldzyme was 15 quid.

I assumed it was some sort of daily supplement but I guess its used to prevent getting a cold at certain times.

Im sick of colds/sinus infections since my little germ monster arrived I really am.
I would try working naturally on supporting your own immune system.

Vitamin D, zinc, selenium, vitamin A, vitamin E, magnesium, eat lots of nutritious food with lots of antioxidants, stress management, good quality sleep, cut out processed junk food, exercise regularly etc.....I finally succumbed to covid the other day, that was my first illness for 5 years (I'm 33 years old), I do think "being healthy" makes a massive difference.

fourstardan

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4,858 posts

149 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I would try working naturally on supporting your own immune system.

Vitamin D, zinc, selenium, vitamin A, vitamin E, magnesium, eat lots of nutritious food with lots of antioxidants, stress management, good quality sleep, cut out processed junk food, exercise regularly etc.....I finally succumbed to covid the other day, that was my first illness for 5 years (I'm 33 years old), I do think "being healthy" makes a massive difference.
Yes, I've started vitamins last year, Ive got a lot on at work so stress could had got me with this one, felt groggy then it went away.

Done LFT and doesn't appear to be CV.

Such a pisser with the weather being like it is this week.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,499 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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fourstardan said:
Yes, I've started vitamins last year, Ive got a lot on at work so stress could had got me with this one, felt groggy then it went away.

Done LFT and doesn't appear to be CV.

Such a pisser with the weather being like it is this week.
Most multivitamins are garbage. Check vitamin D dose, for most people I tend to recommend 5000iu/day in winter (more if obese, less if very lean), not if you are undergoing cancer treatment or if you suffer with sarcoidosis. Magnesium (preferably citrate or bisglycinate) 300-500mg/day too - don't bother with magnesium oxide, sulphate etc.... Absorption rate is poor).

So much we can do to help our own immune system, but we need the right stuff, in the right quantity. The stuff in generic multivitamins is usually crap.

Badda

2,803 posts

87 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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TL

I’ve noticed you recommending doses of supplements on a couple of threads - you’re a HCP I assume?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,499 posts

217 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Badda said:
TL

I’ve noticed you recommending doses of supplements on a couple of threads - you’re a HCP I assume?
Yes, classed as a PHCP.

Badda

2,803 posts

87 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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I've not come across that acronym before. You're a registered HCP?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,499 posts

217 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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Badda said:
I've not come across that acronym before. You're a registered HCP?
Yes I'm a registered health care provider, the P is for primary.

Badda

2,803 posts

87 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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Sorry, I’m genuinely not trying to trip you up but the P is professional in HCP, not provider, I’m just curious what you are and if you’re a registered HCP (HCPC register). No reason, just curious.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,499 posts

217 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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Badda said:
Sorry, I’m genuinely not trying to trip you up but the P is professional in HCP, not provider, I’m just curious what you are and if you’re a registered HCP (HCPC register). No reason, just curious.
I'm a chiropractor, FWIW and obviously registered under the GCC.

Badda

2,803 posts

87 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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Ah. Thanks.

rfisher

5,024 posts

288 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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He's a back cracker.

Really really really needs to start making it clear that he is not a registered medical practitioner.

Still waiting to find out how he 'boosted' his immune system to beat CV19.

The reference to it being unpleasant has me intrigued.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,499 posts

217 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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rfisher said:
He's a back cracker.

Really really really needs to start making it clear that he is not a registered medical practitioner.

Still waiting to find out how he 'boosted' his immune system to beat CV19.

The reference to it being unpleasant has me intrigued.
Boosted? I didn't do anything out of the ordinary except take these high dose for 3 days, for which there is a fairly good amount of evidence for other coronaviruses (I find them a little unpleasant after 2-3 days of these every 2 hours, I'm sure you would too).

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Life-Extension-Enhanced...

I increased my vitamin D dose to 10,000iu per day for 5 days (again, fair chunk of evidence for vitamin D) and used a neti pot sinus rinse (I figured this couldn't hurt - again, not exactly pleasant but not bad either). The only other thing I took "extra" was liposomal glutathione, which is not something I usually take - this is distinctly unpleasant unless you get a flavoured one (usually weaker concentration though).

If that is so called "boosting" your immune system then so be it, I just call it giving it a bit of extra support when it's under more pressure. I look after my general health by exercising regularly and eating a diet that isn't pro-inflammatory and full of processed garbage. If that isn't evidence based then I'm not sure what is, we have decades of research showing those who have a nutrient-dense diet and an active lifestyle get ill less frequently and less severely compared to those with health problems such as metabolic syndromes etc etc.

Abundance of research out there for the roles of various vitamins and minerals in immune function, it's not hocus pocus or witchcraft.

I don't appreciate the "just a back cracker" comment, but I won't let it bother me too much because you don't know the way I practice, but I will say a "back crack" won't be boosting anyone's immune system wink

I am on covid day 14, I went for a 5 mile run yesterday and another run today too and feeling back to normal smile

Enjoy the rest of your evening beer

Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Sunday 27th March 20:09

Badda

2,803 posts

87 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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I’m surprised at the recommendations you’ve blanket handed out on the vit D thread. It was those that made me suspect you weren’t a HPC. I’m sure you’re very safe in your practice but think you should make it very clear what you’re qualified in and let people decide if they’re going to accept what you think they should’ve taking.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,499 posts

217 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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Badda said:
I’m surprised at the recommendations you’ve blanket handed out on the vit D thread. It was those that made me suspect you weren’t a HPC. I’m sure you’re very safe in your practice but think you should make it very clear what you’re qualified in and let people decide if they’re going to accept what you think they should’ve taking.
Fair enough, I'm not sure if you've read all of the thread, but for my recommendations I have provided research articles to explain my reasoning and safety, with the caveats of things like sarcoidosis, cancer etc smile

Paul Dishman

4,792 posts

242 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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In the absence of a proven diagnosis of a vitamin deficiency, or a disease state that requires a vitamin supplement, if you've got a good properly balanced diet then taken extra vitamins is a waste of time and money.

That's from forty years practice as a pharmacist.