Tooth pain - but not tooth related?

[mattknight1984]

Hi all, hoping someone can help.

I had a lower molar removed on 22nd Sept after issues with pain. This tooth had a root canal 8 years ago, and caused occasional niggles which flared up causing horrible pain in August.
This was removed and helped with the pain initially, but I’m now finding the tooth next to the extraction site is hurting on & off too.
This is my pre-molar. The dentist has said it’s fine. No decay, not sensitive to hot or cold and doesn’t hurt when tapped etc.
Any ideas what this might be? I’m reluctant to keep going to the dentist as they can’t find anything.

I'm finding it really hard to deal with, having been in pain since July.

Any advice would be hugely appreciated.

[sparkyhx]

a different tooth, problem with jaw, problem with ears. in descending likelihood somewhere in there may also be residual nerve damage due to original tooth

Dentist and xray are probably first steps

I have a prob with molar ATM. but only hurts when I bite, but cannot for the life of me tell whether its upper tooth or lower.

wifey regularly gets jaw/tooth ache that turned out to be her ear.

Edited by sparkyhx on Thursday 16th December 12:37

[23.7]

I had cellulitis on my temple, caused a tooth pain.

[PurplePangolin]

mattknight1984 said:

Hi all, hoping someone can help.

I had a lower molar removed on 22nd Sept after issues with pain. This tooth had a root canal 8 years ago, and caused occasional niggles which flared up causing horrible pain in August.
This was removed and helped with the pain initially, but I’m now finding the tooth next to the extraction site is hurting on & off too.
This is my pre-molar. The dentist has said it’s fine. No decay, not sensitive to hot or cold and doesn’t hurt when tapped etc.
Any ideas what this might be? I’m reluctant to keep going to the dentist as they can’t find anything.

I'm finding it really hard to deal with, having been in pain since July.

Any advice would be hugely appreciated.

Cracked tooth syndrome - is your premolar restored? It is common in premolars

[mattknight1984]

PurplePangolin said:

Cracked tooth syndrome - is your premolar restored? It is common in premolars

Thanks for the reply. It's not - its never been touched/had any trauma. Before the extracted molar I'd never had even the slightest niggle from it.

[mattknight1984]

sparkyhx said:

a different tooth, problem with jaw, problem with ears. in descending likelihood somewhere in there may also be residual nerve damage due to original tooth

Dentist and xray are probably first steps

I have a prob with molar ATM. but only hurts when I bite, but cannot for the life of me tell whether its upper tooth or lower.

wifey regularly gets jaw/tooth ache that turned out to be her ear.

Edited by sparkyhx on Thursday 16th December 12:37

I'll ask for another x-ray - but previously these have been done, dentists thoroughly checks only to be told everything looks fine. I'm wondering if it could be nerve related following the extraction - dentist doesn't seem to think so.

[PurplePangolin]

mattknight1984 said:

PurplePangolin said:

Cracked tooth syndrome - is your premolar restored? It is common in premolars

Thanks for the reply. It's not - its never been touched/had any trauma. Before the extracted molar I'd never had even the slightest niggle from it.

Do you grind or clench your teeth?

Was the extraction difficult? Sometimes you “lever” against the adjacent tooth and can bruise the membrane that is around that tooth.

[dagovernor]

I recently had my Pfizer vaccine and had horrible pain in my teeth along with other symptoms, which is slowly resolving.

I know that everything these days is covid related, but worth a check to see if a vaccination/positive covid was close to the tooth pain. This reddit threat highlights others may have experienced similar.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CovidVaccinated/comments/...

[lonny]

I’d want to rule out trigeminal neuralgia as well - truly horrific and a lot of people have all their teeth taken out before it is diagnosed.

[sunbeam alpine]

lonny said:

I’d want to rule out trigeminal neuralgia as well - truly horrific and a lot of people have all their teeth taken out before it is diagnosed.

^^This! I suffer occasionally (usually in winter) - and it is extremely painful. Caused me to give up going skiing.

[mkjess123]

"This! I suffer occasionally (usually in winter) - and it is extremely painful. Caused me to give up going skiing."

I can assure you that you can think yourself lucky!

My wife has had Trigeminal Neuralgia for 11 years and it has had a terrible effect on her life and to a lesser effect both of ours.
She has had brain surgery twice, takes a daily handful of tablets (that have to be changed every few months and have their own effects) and has been told by a number of consultants that there is nothing else that can be done. She is aged 50 today.

She is in constant pain (to the facial area) ranging between moderate and severe, and for those who are not aware, painkillers don't touch it. She is unable to work, even part time, and unable to undertake tasks that people take for granted. This includes driving any more than a couple of miles, or doing anything strenuous at all.

It's commonly known as "the suicide illness".

[mattknight1984]

Thanks everyone, really appreciate the time taken to respond.

I went to the dentist again yesterday - she assures me there's nothing wrong with the tooth.
I have been given a hard splint (at a cost of £800) to wear at night. My bite isn't great, so this is to even it out. I personally don't think I clench my teeth when asleep so can't see it doing much - but I had to give it a try.

Years ago I had an MRI scan and TN was not diagnosed - everything looked fine.

I also take amitriptyline for nerve pain (20-30mg) and have done for several years. I'm wondering if maybe this has become less effective/my body has got used to it?


Frustrating to say the least

[randomeddy]

mkjess123 said:

"This! I suffer occasionally (usually in winter) - and it is extremely painful. Caused me to give up going skiing."

I can assure you that you can think yourself lucky!

My wife has had Trigeminal Neuralgia for 11 years and it has had a terrible effect on her life and to a lesser effect both of ours.
She has had brain surgery twice, takes a daily handful of tablets (that have to be changed every few months and have their own effects) and has been told by a number of consultants that there is nothing else that can be done. She is aged 50 today.

She is in constant pain (to the facial area) ranging between moderate and severe, and for those who are not aware, painkillers don't touch it. She is unable to work, even part time, and unable to undertake tasks that people take for granted. This includes driving any more than a couple of miles, or doing anything strenuous at all.

It's commonly known as "the suicide illness".

Can this come and go?
I had a referral to have a wisdom tooth out but held off when I came across this awful affliction.
I am glad I did as (touch wood) the pain has gone for now.

[Big_Dog]

My dentist told me couldn't find a problem, I was referred to an oncologist and subsequently for an ultrasound. It turns out that I can't see a problem doesn't necessarily mean there isn't one. A speculative root treatment of my cracked tooth seems to have sorted it out. So far. This was last week.

[troc]

This is rather interesting as I also have weird pain in a tooth. Went to dentist who poked about and decided it was sensitive due to gum loss and told me to use sensodyne toothpaste but the pain got worse to the point where my wife and I were feeling it could be TN due to the sudden bouts of excruciating and uncontrollable pain I was having in the general facial area but large doses of diclofenac together with paracetamol have brought the pain under control and it’s now localised to a specific tooth which hurts to touch and some localised pain under the jaw.

I’ll poke the dentist again tomorrow but I suspect a cracked tooth.

[Chalen01]

Not sure if this is helpful but I had a problem with persistent tooth pain from a tooth that was next to one that had been extracted some months earlier. Was eventually referred to Guys hospital- they were amazing. Various exams and scans all the same morning, eventually told there was nothing wrong, but was very likely grinding my teeth. Was fitted for a mouth guard to wear at night, and to my my surprise and mild horror had an “intervention” from a counsellor for a chat about possible causes and the offer of therapy.

After the initial surprise I took them up on the offer and it was great. Incredibly joined up thinking and a credit to the NHS.

Hope you get your issue sorted soon OP.

[dudleybloke]

Do you have wisdom teeth?
I had my last-but-one molars out in my mid 20's and when my wisdoms came in they very slowly pushed the rear molar into the gap, gave a bit of pain occasionally but not hurt for years now.