NZ to phase out cigarettes completly
Discussion
A bold move and from a health perspective hard to argue against...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-59589775
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-59589775
t. A rolling ban on being able to sell to "new" smokers is probably the best way to enact something like this, as it doesn't impact those who already smoke.
I'd be interested to know how the finances stack up, though again, it'll be a gradual reduction in tax revenue rather than an instant cliff.
Though I think people should be allowed to smoke, drink etc if they wish to, so even done in a good way, I'm not sure I agree with the ban.
I'd be interested to know how the finances stack up, though again, it'll be a gradual reduction in tax revenue rather than an instant cliff.
Though I think people should be allowed to smoke, drink etc if they wish to, so even done in a good way, I'm not sure I agree with the ban.
i4got said:
AndyAudi said:
Can you imagine the public outcry if they tried that in U.K.
Are you serious? If the last few years have taught you nothing else, surely it has shown you how totalitarian the average brit has become.i4got said:
Aren’t they just effectively widening the definition of illegal drugs while the rest of the world seems to be narrowing theirs and considering legalising some of the less serious one?
I thought exactly the same - stupid idea from a country which on first glance seems sensible....I except the fact that it 'might' be cost effective on public healthcare 'if' it improves health, however this is a shady argument!
I trust that for the generation born after 2008 they'll also be adding:
Any sports
Any alcohol
Loud music
Fast cars
Anything interesting
Anything exciting
What a time to be alive.....for a bit longer as you now can't smoke...or even make the choice to!
Tip top!
I don’t understand this obsession with wanting to control peoples lives with banning things and forcing things on people. Smoking now, drinking will be next and meat soon after that. Allow the first and the rest come easily.
Why can’t we let people live in the way they want if they want to make those bad decisions then fine, the tax take while they smoke makes up for a lot of the additional care they may or may not need.
I’m not a fan of smoking, never done it dislike the smell and seen the issues it causes with family members but I’m in no way a fan of banning things or telling people what they should and shouldn’t do
Why can’t we let people live in the way they want if they want to make those bad decisions then fine, the tax take while they smoke makes up for a lot of the additional care they may or may not need.
I’m not a fan of smoking, never done it dislike the smell and seen the issues it causes with family members but I’m in no way a fan of banning things or telling people what they should and shouldn’t do
petery27 said:
I don’t understand this obsession with wanting to control peoples lives with banning things and forcing things on people. Smoking now, drinking will be next and meat soon after that. Allow the first and the rest come easily.
Why can’t we let people live in the way they want if they want to make those bad decisions then fine, the tax take while they smoke makes up for a lot of the additional care they may or may not need.
I’m not a fan of smoking, never done it dislike the smell and seen the issues it causes with family members but I’m in no way a fan of banning things or telling people what they should and shouldn’t do
I agree, wtf has what you do with your body got to do with anyone else least of all some trainspotter sat in a civil service office.Why can’t we let people live in the way they want if they want to make those bad decisions then fine, the tax take while they smoke makes up for a lot of the additional care they may or may not need.
I’m not a fan of smoking, never done it dislike the smell and seen the issues it causes with family members but I’m in no way a fan of banning things or telling people what they should and shouldn’t do
dundarach said:
i4got said:
Aren’t they just effectively widening the definition of illegal drugs while the rest of the world seems to be narrowing theirs and considering legalising some of the less serious one?
I thought exactly the same - stupid idea from a country which on first glance seems sensible....I except the fact that it 'might' be cost effective on public healthcare 'if' it improves health, however this is a shady argument!
I trust that for the generation born after 2008 they'll also be adding:
Any sports
Any alcohol
Loud music
Fast cars
Anything interesting
Anything exciting
What a time to be alive.....for a bit longer as you now can't smoke...or even make the choice to!
Tip top!
Escape from New york/ or LA i forget which when Plisken talks about cigareetes being illeagal as well as red meat etc.
And Equilbrium when all fun things and mental stimulation are outlawed...
Maoris have a high percentage of smokers [ and drinkers probably ] the Immaculate
Jacinda Of The Virgin Birth must be careful not be seen as oppressing an ethnical minority.
Banning the sale of stuff that was once perfectly legal has failed miserably in the recent past in other countries.
The population who do smoke in NZ is 13 % not much different to the UK.
Jacinda Of The Virgin Birth must be careful not be seen as oppressing an ethnical minority.
Banning the sale of stuff that was once perfectly legal has failed miserably in the recent past in other countries.
The population who do smoke in NZ is 13 % not much different to the UK.
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