Booster Question
Discussion
Good Afternoon,
Genuine question ,however I am aware that it is difficult issue.....
My girlfriend is on dialysis,mid 30's, awaiting a transplant, had her two az vaccines as advised etc etc .... and has also had covid ( didn't make her partic poorly)
She has now been told she must have the Pfizer as a booster.... she is worried about this on a number of levels ,made worse by a nurse telling her its not a booster to az, but a restart of her vaccinations as its a different vaccine??
The vaccines made her feel a lot worse than covid did to be honest ,so she is worried about that also.....
Thought id ask here as there's a lot more people here than in our limited social circle....
She's worried about it making her poorly ,when covid didn't...and the mixing of the vaccines etc what you guys reckon?
Also lets keep this civil please as its important to her and me and its nice to get a wide range of proper thoughts and opinions rather than daft dheads scoring points..
Genuine question ,however I am aware that it is difficult issue.....
My girlfriend is on dialysis,mid 30's, awaiting a transplant, had her two az vaccines as advised etc etc .... and has also had covid ( didn't make her partic poorly)
She has now been told she must have the Pfizer as a booster.... she is worried about this on a number of levels ,made worse by a nurse telling her its not a booster to az, but a restart of her vaccinations as its a different vaccine??
The vaccines made her feel a lot worse than covid did to be honest ,so she is worried about that also.....
Thought id ask here as there's a lot more people here than in our limited social circle....
She's worried about it making her poorly ,when covid didn't...and the mixing of the vaccines etc what you guys reckon?
Also lets keep this civil please as its important to her and me and its nice to get a wide range of proper thoughts and opinions rather than daft dheads scoring points..
BookA said:
Good Afternoon,
Genuine question ,however I am aware that it is difficult issue.....
My girlfriend is on dialysis,mid 30's, awaiting a transplant, had her two az vaccines as advised etc etc .... and has also had covid ( didn't make her partic poorly)
She has now been told she must have the Pfizer as a booster.... she is worried about this on a number of levels ,made worse by a nurse telling her its not a booster to az, but a restart of her vaccinations as its a different vaccine??
The vaccines made her feel a lot worse than covid did to be honest ,so she is worried about that also.....
Thought id ask here as there's a lot more people here than in our limited social circle....
She's worried about it making her poorly ,when covid didn't...and the mixing of the vaccines etc what you guys reckon?
Also lets keep this civil please as its important to her and me and its nice to get a wide range of proper thoughts and opinions rather than daft dheads scoring points..
Direct answer - discuss with her Doctors- GP and Specialist(s). They know far more than the rest of us about her specific medical conditions & what questions to ask about when/how/what reactions she had.Genuine question ,however I am aware that it is difficult issue.....
My girlfriend is on dialysis,mid 30's, awaiting a transplant, had her two az vaccines as advised etc etc .... and has also had covid ( didn't make her partic poorly)
She has now been told she must have the Pfizer as a booster.... she is worried about this on a number of levels ,made worse by a nurse telling her its not a booster to az, but a restart of her vaccinations as its a different vaccine??
The vaccines made her feel a lot worse than covid did to be honest ,so she is worried about that also.....
Thought id ask here as there's a lot more people here than in our limited social circle....
She's worried about it making her poorly ,when covid didn't...and the mixing of the vaccines etc what you guys reckon?
Also lets keep this civil please as its important to her and me and its nice to get a wide range of proper thoughts and opinions rather than daft dheads scoring points..
More generally, the protection from vaccines isn't like theraputic drugs. They don't work by staying in your system, ready to react to a virus if & when it pops up.
Vaccines are used to "prime & prepare" your immune system by various means. The end result is the same for all vaccinations and types - your immune system has been "exposed" to something and has learned what it looks like and how to deal with it.
Multipart vaccinations do this in stages, which depends on how the immune system responds to the virus (i.e. it takes more than one "lesson" in order to effectively prepare for the real thing)
It's like getting lessons for your A-levels. Sure, all in the one school is best, but if you change schools you should still get the full "curriculum"
M.
This possibly depends on whether she should be having just a booster, or a proper 3rd primary jab. Some are eligible for the latter, after which they will be offered a booster in the new year. It amy affect whether you're supposed to have the same primary, or a different booster.
However, speaking from experience (my wife is a renal transplant patient), the management of the 3rd primary jabs has been an utter shambolic mess. A huge number of those eligible haven't been contacted about it. It's not helped by confusion on the part of many who think the booster is the 3rd jab.
Her best approach is going to be to contact the renal consultant themselves in the first instance and take their direction. They should at least be able to advise what should be happening, even if they don't have any direct control/input into that process. The GPs may well just choose the approach of ignorance or diversion of responsibility. My wife is no further on than she was several weeks ago when she saw her consultant - well, apart from having been offered a booster...
However, speaking from experience (my wife is a renal transplant patient), the management of the 3rd primary jabs has been an utter shambolic mess. A huge number of those eligible haven't been contacted about it. It's not helped by confusion on the part of many who think the booster is the 3rd jab.
Her best approach is going to be to contact the renal consultant themselves in the first instance and take their direction. They should at least be able to advise what should be happening, even if they don't have any direct control/input into that process. The GPs may well just choose the approach of ignorance or diversion of responsibility. My wife is no further on than she was several weeks ago when she saw her consultant - well, apart from having been offered a booster...
Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Wednesday 24th November 15:31
Swervin_Mervin said:
This possibly depends on whether she should be having just a booster, or a proper 3rd primary jab. Some are eligible for the latter, after which they will be offered a booster in the new year.
However, speaking from experience (my wife is a renal transplant patient), the management of the 3rd primary jabs has been an utter shambolic mess. A huge number of those eligible haven't been contacted about it. It's not helped by confusion on the part of many who think the booster is the 3rd jab.
Her best approach is going to be to contact the renal consultant themselves in the first instance and take their direction. They should at least be able to advise what should be happening, even if they don't have any direct control/input into that process. The GPs may well just choose the approach of ignorance or diversion of responsibility. My wife is no further on than she was several weeks ago when she saw her consultant.
Thank you ,good advice, they have been calling it a booster , then the nurse put a spanner in the works.... its difficult isnt it ...hmmm with your wife in a similar situation, do you ever get any credible help of your gp?However, speaking from experience (my wife is a renal transplant patient), the management of the 3rd primary jabs has been an utter shambolic mess. A huge number of those eligible haven't been contacted about it. It's not helped by confusion on the part of many who think the booster is the 3rd jab.
Her best approach is going to be to contact the renal consultant themselves in the first instance and take their direction. They should at least be able to advise what should be happening, even if they don't have any direct control/input into that process. The GPs may well just choose the approach of ignorance or diversion of responsibility. My wife is no further on than she was several weeks ago when she saw her consultant.
I agree its a shambles
BookA said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
This possibly depends on whether she should be having just a booster, or a proper 3rd primary jab. Some are eligible for the latter, after which they will be offered a booster in the new year.
However, speaking from experience (my wife is a renal transplant patient), the management of the 3rd primary jabs has been an utter shambolic mess. A huge number of those eligible haven't been contacted about it. It's not helped by confusion on the part of many who think the booster is the 3rd jab.
Her best approach is going to be to contact the renal consultant themselves in the first instance and take their direction. They should at least be able to advise what should be happening, even if they don't have any direct control/input into that process. The GPs may well just choose the approach of ignorance or diversion of responsibility. My wife is no further on than she was several weeks ago when she saw her consultant.
Thank you ,good advice, they have been calling it a booster , then the nurse put a spanner in the works.... its difficult isnt it ...hmmm with your wife in a similar situation, do you ever get any credible help of your gp?However, speaking from experience (my wife is a renal transplant patient), the management of the 3rd primary jabs has been an utter shambolic mess. A huge number of those eligible haven't been contacted about it. It's not helped by confusion on the part of many who think the booster is the 3rd jab.
Her best approach is going to be to contact the renal consultant themselves in the first instance and take their direction. They should at least be able to advise what should be happening, even if they don't have any direct control/input into that process. The GPs may well just choose the approach of ignorance or diversion of responsibility. My wife is no further on than she was several weeks ago when she saw her consultant.
I agree its a shambles
As an example, every year she gets a call from them about having the flu jab. But not because of her renal condition, oh no. But because she is listed as having asthma
She reminds them every year of the fact but in 10 ears they still haven't "got it".The consultant is the best first contact I'd suggest - ignore what any nurse is saying. They should at least be able to confirm whether it's a 3rd primary jab or a booster that she should be having. Then you can fight from there at least in the knowledge of what should be happening, even if no one else has a clue! I'd also recommend following Kidney Care UK on social media, if you don't already - they're very active especially in terms of campaigning. I think they were directly involved in the campaign for 3rd primary jabs for the most vulnerable, for example, and they have lots of really good up to date advice on their website about what should be happening etc. They may even be able to advise directly, and will probably have a better handle on it than your GP.
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Do we ever get any credible help from our GP? There's no way of me answering that one politely!
As an example, every year she gets a call from them about having the flu jab. But not because of her renal condition, oh no. But because she is listed as having asthma
The consultant is the best first contact I'd suggest - ignore what any nurse is saying. They should at least be able to confirm whether it's a 3rd primary jab or a booster that she should be having. Then you can fight from there at least in the knowledge of what should be happening, even if no one else has a clue! I'd also recommend following Kidney Care UK on social media, if you don't already - they're very active especially in terms of campaigning. I think they were directly involved in the campaign for 3rd primary jabs for the most vulnerable, for example, and they have lots of really good up to date advice on their website about what should be happening etc. They may even be able to advise directly, and will probably have a better handle on it than your GP.[/
Don't have to be polite lol,example , they ask for blood results regularly ,despite knowing the bloods can only be taken when she is on dialysis due to a number of reasons, and threaten to stop prescriptions if she doesn't attend for blood tests .. even though the prescriptions are sent from the hospital as far as i know?
I think she follows on social media,however not sure as i try and stay away from sm as much as possible.
If you dont mind me asking,is your wife pre,or post transplant?
Do we ever get any credible help from our GP? There's no way of me answering that one politely!
As an example, every year she gets a call from them about having the flu jab. But not because of her renal condition, oh no. But because she is listed as having asthma
The consultant is the best first contact I'd suggest - ignore what any nurse is saying. They should at least be able to confirm whether it's a 3rd primary jab or a booster that she should be having. Then you can fight from there at least in the knowledge of what should be happening, even if no one else has a clue! I'd also recommend following Kidney Care UK on social media, if you don't already - they're very active especially in terms of campaigning. I think they were directly involved in the campaign for 3rd primary jabs for the most vulnerable, for example, and they have lots of really good up to date advice on their website about what should be happening etc. They may even be able to advise directly, and will probably have a better handle on it than your GP.[/
Don't have to be polite lol,example , they ask for blood results regularly ,despite knowing the bloods can only be taken when she is on dialysis due to a number of reasons, and threaten to stop prescriptions if she doesn't attend for blood tests .. even though the prescriptions are sent from the hospital as far as i know?
I think she follows on social media,however not sure as i try and stay away from sm as much as possible.
If you dont mind me asking,is your wife pre,or post transplant?
Swervin_Mervin said:
No worries - she's post-transplant. Will be 15yrs soon.
Thanks ... i have a load of questions lol poss not the thread for them.7We are in the midst of awaiting for the nhs to get a grip, she has had a donor waiting to donate for over two years and time is ticking...
BookA said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
No worries - she's post-transplant. Will be 15yrs soon.
Thanks ... i have a load of questions lol poss not the thread for them.7We are in the midst of awaiting for the nhs to get a grip, she has had a donor waiting to donate for over two years and time is ticking...
Always happy to help in these scnearios in whatever way I can - it's a very scary thing to have to deal with, especially at the outset, and at that age.BookA said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
You're welcome to pm me and I'll do my best to respond. Always happy to help in these scnearios in whatever way I can - it's a very scary thing to have to deal with, especially at the outset, and at that age.
I tried, it said email wont be received by you Always happy to help in these scnearios in whatever way I can - it's a very scary thing to have to deal with, especially at the outset, and at that age.Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff