Third cold in a month

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fourstardan

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5,013 posts

151 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Ok, so I have got a germinator in my house this year who recently started nursery two days a week and is running us ragged the other five days but we have now had in the space of a month a cold that turned into a sinus infection and two colds all going down my chest.

Last weekend we'd recovered then our boy has got another outbreak cold and Hand Foot Mouth.

This cold doesn't feel as bad on my body but I can feel it going down my chest this morning.

I'd love to know what he germs are winning! Im hardly the unfittest in the world.

Bill

54,267 posts

262 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Are you getting enough vitamin D? Worth topping up particularly at this time of year.

Gary29

4,321 posts

106 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Me too, my little one is in nursery so this is par for the course, but I do have a theory about how Covid has affected all of our immune systems, I think (completely unfounded) that the immune system is like a muscle and you have to use it regularly for it to be at it's most efficient. With CV going on, we're all living in our own bubbles and not being exposed to the other 'nasties' that we usually would and hence any little bug we come across goes to town on us.

I'm normally never ill, no colds or anything, but the last few months I seem to have some sniffles, blocked sinus, headache etc every other week.

dontlookdown

1,967 posts

100 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Its just what happens when your kids start nursery. They are walking Petri dishes for every bug around.

My daughter is 17 now but I still well recall wihen she went to nursery ages about 7 months. We all spent 3 months with perpetual colds, stomach upsets and conjunctivitis.

Then their (and your) immune systems get used to it and it all goes back to normal.

Being inside for lockdown may have exacerbated it, but this has been a thing since long before Covid.

So it's a bit grim but hang on in there, it won't last forever.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,710 posts

219 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Vitamin D 5000iu/day (unless you're very lean....take less, or obese....take more). Eat well, plenty of fresh fruit and veg with minimal processed crap in your diet. I had a minor cold the other day (lasted 4 days and now fine) and that was the first time being ill in around 5 years.

Consider liposomal setria glutathione for 1-2 months as a bit of a boost. Zinc acetate lozenges for when you're actually ill, or consider a minor supplement in general (high dose for more than a few days is not a good thing, but when you are ill it is OK for about 3 days).

TheThing

946 posts

141 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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I suffered like this for around two years. I'd catch something and before I'd shaken it, I'd catch something else. It makes life pretty miserable after a while. Eat healthy so you get plenty of vitamins and minerals. Get plenty of exercise, but not too much as it will only make things worse. Most importantly get plenty of good quality sleep. Lastly, when you are sick make sure you get plenty of rest. Knocking your balls out at work will do you no good when you are already unwell.

fourstardan

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5,013 posts

151 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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TheThing said:
I suffered like this for around two years. I'd catch something and before I'd shaken it, I'd catch something else. It makes life pretty miserable after a while. Eat healthy so you get plenty of vitamins and minerals. Get plenty of exercise, but not too much as it will only make things worse. Most importantly get plenty of good quality sleep. Lastly, when you are sick make sure you get plenty of rest. Knocking your balls out at work will do you no good when you are already unwell.

I've got a 1 year old....sleep is non existent. Before the baby arrived I'd get a cold from the office about now and that would be it for the winter, im pretty fit and not overweight, diet could maybe do with a bit more fruit tbh.

I'm going to get us some multi vitamins tonight I think.

Thanks for the help all


dontlookdown

1,967 posts

100 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Vitamin D is good advice anyway, as most Brit adults are deficient. As is sleep, but you may struggle with that until junior gets a bit older.

It's one of those things in life you just have to work through. When they are grown up you can annoy them by adding it to the list of noble sacrifices you made for their benefit;)

Jimmy No Hands

5,019 posts

163 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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My partner is a teacher in a school with circa 1200 kids. We've had perpetual cold / flu like symptoms for a month now! Isn't fun.

fourstardan

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5,013 posts

151 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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dontlookdown said:
Vitamin D is good advice anyway, as most Brit adults are deficient. As is sleep, but you may struggle with that until junior gets a bit older.

It's one of those things in life you just have to work through. When they are grown up you can annoy them by adding it to the list of noble sacrifices you made for their benefit;)
Ive just checked VitD level on these vitamins and its 250% per pill lol....that on top of multivitamin that says it's 100% I think I'll just remain on the MV's.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,710 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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fourstardan said:
dontlookdown said:
Vitamin D is good advice anyway, as most Brit adults are deficient. As is sleep, but you may struggle with that until junior gets a bit older.

It's one of those things in life you just have to work through. When they are grown up you can annoy them by adding it to the list of noble sacrifices you made for their benefit;)
Ive just checked VitD level on these vitamins and its 250% per pill lol....that on top of multivitamin that says it's 100% I think I'll just remain on the MV's.
The RDA is utterly pathetic. It's 400iu. Put it this way, 30mins in shorts and Tshirt in the summer sun we can make up to 20,000iu.

Thr NHS reference range is also WAY too low. They will say you're normal at 50nmol/L, yet a large study found those averaging 87 (still actually fairly modest compared to those living in sunny climates) absorb 65% more calcium than those at 51nmol/L.

I advise most of my patients to take 4000-5000iu/day unless obese (take more), or very lean (take less).

There are numerous reasons why it's better to be higher, but 1000iu (250% RDA) is still a fairly modest dose, certainly in winter.

M1AGM

2,801 posts

39 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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fourstardan said:
Ok, so I have got a germinator in my house this year who recently started nursery two days a week and is running us ragged the other five days but we have now had in the space of a month a cold that turned into a sinus infection and two colds all going down my chest.

Last weekend we'd recovered then our boy has got another outbreak cold and Hand Foot Mouth.

This cold doesn't feel as bad on my body but I can feel it going down my chest this morning.

I'd love to know what he germs are winning! Im hardly the unfittest in the world.
Entirely normal. Happens too when they get older and come back to school after holidays.

Lots of new virus for the immune system to learn how to fight off. It’s a good thing for the child and for you. Grim when they are little and have permanent mucus covered faces, but good in the long term lol.

fourstardan

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5,013 posts

151 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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Well, after going down hill Monday and getting a lot of fruit/vitamins in me im feeling better with no cold and slight metallically taste when I could up from my chest.

Fingers crossed Im fighting the germs easier now!

Blackpuddin

17,419 posts

212 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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Chomping vit D tabs should be a default for Brits. I very rarely get colds these days since starting to take a daily dose.

dontlookdown

1,967 posts

100 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
fourstardan said:
dontlookdown said:
Vitamin D is good advice anyway, as most Brit adults are deficient. As is sleep, but you may struggle with that until junior gets a bit older.

It's one of those things in life you just have to work through. When they are grown up you can annoy them by adding it to the list of noble sacrifices you made for their benefit;)
Ive just checked VitD level on these vitamins and its 250% per pill lol....that on top of multivitamin that says it's 100% I think I'll just remain on the MV's.
The RDA is utterly pathetic. It's 400iu. Put it this way, 30mins in shorts and Tshirt in the summer sun we can make up to 20,000iu.

Thr NHS reference range is also WAY too low. They will say you're normal at 50nmol/L, yet a large study found those averaging 87 (still actually fairly modest compared to those living in sunny climates) absorb 65% more calcium than those at 51nmol/L.

I advise most of my patients to take 4000-5000iu/day unless obese (take more), or very lean (take less).

There are numerous reasons why it's better to be higher, but 1000iu (250% RDA) is still a fairly modest dose, certainly in winter.
Interesting. Are you a GP/health professional? Sounds like it. I take 1000 iu (25mcg) daily in winter, but perhaps I should take more.

Many of the vit D tablets you can buy are pitiful doses. Have to work quite hard to find even 25mcg per tablet.

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo

15,078 posts

176 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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Blackpuddin said:
Chomping vit D tabs should be a default for Brits. I very rarely get colds these days since starting to take a daily dose.
yes

Or if getting a cold I’m over it in a day rather than suffering for a week.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,710 posts

219 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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dontlookdown said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
fourstardan said:
dontlookdown said:
Vitamin D is good advice anyway, as most Brit adults are deficient. As is sleep, but you may struggle with that until junior gets a bit older.

It's one of those things in life you just have to work through. When they are grown up you can annoy them by adding it to the list of noble sacrifices you made for their benefit;)
Ive just checked VitD level on these vitamins and its 250% per pill lol....that on top of multivitamin that says it's 100% I think I'll just remain on the MV's.
The RDA is utterly pathetic. It's 400iu. Put it this way, 30mins in shorts and Tshirt in the summer sun we can make up to 20,000iu.

Thr NHS reference range is also WAY too low. They will say you're normal at 50nmol/L, yet a large study found those averaging 87 (still actually fairly modest compared to those living in sunny climates) absorb 65% more calcium than those at 51nmol/L.

I advise most of my patients to take 4000-5000iu/day unless obese (take more), or very lean (take less).

There are numerous reasons why it's better to be higher, but 1000iu (250% RDA) is still a fairly modest dose, certainly in winter.
Interesting. Are you a GP/health professional? Sounds like it. I take 1000 iu (25mcg) daily in winter, but perhaps I should take more.

Many of the vit D tablets you can buy are pitiful doses. Have to work quite hard to find even 25mcg per tablet.
Yes I'm in private healthcare. The websites I use for any supplements I recommend are Natural Dispensary or Amrita Nutrition, the latter can be expensive but have good stuff.

If patients are older I tend to get them to have vitamin K2 (preferably MK4, but also MK7, but all the good research is MK4) because whilst vitamin D helps with calcium absorption, K2 helps direct it to the bone, which is great for elderly patients with diminishing bone density.

100mcg capsules for vitamin D are available on Amazon for not much. I get my levels checked 1-2x year and they're nice and high on ones from Amazon, but I wouldn't go for the dirt cheap ones. Some supplements you absolutely get what you pay for, but, broadly speaking, vit D is vit D.

Yes, I'd recommend most adults to take more than 1000iu/day, certainly over winter!

aparna

1,156 posts

44 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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fourstardan said:
Ok, so I have got a germinator in my house this year who recently started nursery two days a week and is running us ragged the other five days but we have now had in the space of a month a cold that turned into a sinus infection and two colds all going down my chest.

Last weekend we'd recovered then our boy has got another outbreak cold and Hand Foot Mouth.

This cold doesn't feel as bad on my body but I can feel it going down my chest this morning.

I'd love to know what he germs are winning! Im hardly the unfittest in the world.
Ditto. Exact same.

We are seriously considering switching to a child minder who has just three kids.

Not so much for the kids, but for us! Maybe it’s not the best time to make such decision, when ill.

malks222

1,986 posts

146 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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I’m in the exact same boat as you, kid been in nursery 6months now and things are starting to ease now. I’m usually a one cold a year type person, but have been running sniffles probably once a month, usually ending very snotty/ sinus type blocks.

But thankfully over the last month/ 6wks things have definitely been feeling better. thankfully my daughter never really seems up or down when she has some bug, just gets snotty/ coughs and gets on with life.

I’ve also started taking vitamins and they might be doing something but might just be a placebo in my head, but either way I’m finding they help.

TheThing

946 posts

141 months

Friday 8th October 2021
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
dontlookdown said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
fourstardan said:
dontlookdown said:
Vitamin D is good advice anyway, as most Brit adults are deficient. As is sleep, but you may struggle with that until junior gets a bit older.

It's one of those things in life you just have to work through. When they are grown up you can annoy them by adding it to the list of noble sacrifices you made for their benefit;)
Ive just checked VitD level on these vitamins and its 250% per pill lol....that on top of multivitamin that says it's 100% I think I'll just remain on the MV's.
The RDA is utterly pathetic. It's 400iu. Put it this way, 30mins in shorts and Tshirt in the summer sun we can make up to 20,000iu.

Thr NHS reference range is also WAY too low. They will say you're normal at 50nmol/L, yet a large study found those averaging 87 (still actually fairly modest compared to those living in sunny climates) absorb 65% more calcium than those at 51nmol/L.

I advise most of my patients to take 4000-5000iu/day unless obese (take more), or very lean (take less).

There are numerous reasons why it's better to be higher, but 1000iu (250% RDA) is still a fairly modest dose, certainly in winter.
Interesting. Are you a GP/health professional? Sounds like it. I take 1000 iu (25mcg) daily in winter, but perhaps I should take more.

Many of the vit D tablets you can buy are pitiful doses. Have to work quite hard to find even 25mcg per tablet.
Yes I'm in private healthcare. The websites I use for any supplements I recommend are Natural Dispensary or Amrita Nutrition, the latter can be expensive but have good stuff.

If patients are older I tend to get them to have vitamin K2 (preferably MK4, but also MK7, but all the good research is MK4) because whilst vitamin D helps with calcium absorption, K2 helps direct it to the bone, which is great for elderly patients with diminishing bone density.

100mcg capsules for vitamin D are available on Amazon for not much. I get my levels checked 1-2x year and they're nice and high on ones from Amazon, but I wouldn't go for the dirt cheap ones. Some supplements you absolutely get what you pay for, but, broadly speaking, vit D is vit D.

Yes, I'd recommend most adults to take more than 1000iu/day, certainly over winter!
Thank you for your very informative post. Is there a specific Vit D supplement that you can recommend from Amazon?