Indoor rowing, running out of puff! Can I fix it?

Indoor rowing, running out of puff! Can I fix it?

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richard at home

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320 posts

123 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Been rowing on a WaterRower for 9 months now.

Recently added a SmartRow to get accurate distances and speeds etc.

I row 5k a day, 5 days a week.

According to the SmartRow online rankings, I am doing pretty good, for my age. (50-54 I am 2nd at 18:37 for 5k)

I am finding that to push any harder, I just run out of puff.

I check my HR and O2 at the end of a session and although my recovery is fast, I am hitting 170bpm and O2 of 90-91 when I finish my 19 min session.

Are there any techniques I can use to increase my lung capacity or cardiac output to improve my times?

Maybe I am just running into my bodies physical limits, given that I ain't no spring chicken!


mikees

2,775 posts

177 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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I swim, run and cycle but not tri these days. Isn’t it just longer slower for stamina and intervals for speed like all aerobic sports?

Excuse me if I being an idiot. Also my rowing mates from younger days did loads of weights .

M

Eta I do the last 1/2 mile of my 10/5k loop in hill repeats . Run up jog down. But this is with the help of performance enhancing dogs. 2 x labs. I’m also a 54 yr old fat knacker

Edited by mikees on Friday 10th September 20:21

richard at home

Original Poster:

320 posts

123 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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mikees said:
I swim, run and cycle but not tri these days. Isn’t it just longer slower for stamina and intervals for speed like all aerobic sports?

Excuse me if I being an idiot. Also my rowing mates from younger days did loads of weights .

M

Eta I do the last 1/2 mile of my 10/5k loop in hill repeats . Run up jog down. But this is with the help of performance enhancing dogs. 2 x labs. I’m also a 54 yr old fat knacker

Edited by mikees on Friday 10th September 20:21
No idea if weights would help, I don't seem to have any problems with muscle power, my lungs/cardio just can't keep up!

Slagathore

5,917 posts

197 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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richard at home said:
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Are there any techniques I can use to increase my lung capacity or cardiac output to improve my times?

Maybe I am just running into my bodies physical limits, given that I ain't no spring chicken!
Row more, or lots more of any other aerobic exercise, but at lower intensity and longer.

If you have the time, increase the distance, but lower the effort pace and keep it in HR zone 2-3. You should find you can exercise for long periods of time at that effort.

Then when you do quicker stuff, do some faster interval stuff at HR zone 4-5.

Basically, just mix it up. Lots of people talk about building a base etc, which usually consists of lots of long slow exercise. If you look at the pro athletes, they majority of their work is low/medium intensity. Although, for them, that is still massive pace, but you see what I mean.

And tweaking technique is massively important as well to becoming more efficient in the stroke, but that's quite a long one and can take lots of time to get right, but there are lots of videos on youtube for technique.


richard at home

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320 posts

123 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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anonymous said:
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"The girls will love it." Ha! not something I worry about these days, but I must admit, I have muscles popping up all over and my waistline is back to what it was 30 years ago!


Northernboy

12,642 posts

262 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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To improve your speed it’s a good idea to try interval training.

The rower’s a great piece of equipment to do this on as you can go absolutely flat-out without serious risk of injury as long as you keep paying attention to technique.

When I’m trying to get over a flat spot I’ve a relatively simple routine which is this…

A good buy gentle warm-up of 2-3km of gentle rowing.
Stop, and stretch and flex a bit.
Then, pick two splits that work for you. For me it’s 300m of less than walking-pace rowing then either 300m or 500m of proper flat-out all that I can give of sprinting.

You need to be careful of technique on the ramp-up from gentle to full-on, and to not hold anything back at all for “later” on the sprint.

I then just keep repeating until the nausea overcomes me.

smashy

3,076 posts

163 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Run ,run and run some more.For example I knew a girl who led aerobic classes at Pineapple Studio Covent garden when all that stuff started in the 80s she was at it 5 hours a day ,yet she told me she couldnt run round the block without stopping. .......run my friend.

anonymous-user

59 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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richard at home said:
According to the SmartRow online rankings, I am doing pretty good, for my age. (50-54 I am 2nd at 18:37 for 5k)

I am finding that to push any harder, I just run out of puff.


Are there any techniques I can use to increase my lung capacity or cardiac output to improve my times?
There are, and they aren’t pleasant. Think: being held underwater, because that is basically the methodology.

You’re doing approx 1.8 minutes per 500m, or 1.48, for 5k. Say 1.50.

If you want to go faster you need to be able to hold (say) 1.42, or 1.38. So try holding 1.35-1.40 for 2k. Then have 120s off, the repeat. Then do it one more time (or maybe two). Maybe also try 1.30 for 1000m x6 on 60s rest.

These drills will raise your aerobic threshold and should help you go faster than 1.48 over 5k, but they will not be enjoyable. Part of the task you have is getting through stages of feeling as if there is not enough oxygen in the room.

Carlososos

976 posts

101 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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You’ve got to mix it up.

Different exercises
High intensity training
Long slow stamina training
Weights can help
Aerobic training

If you think you’ve peaked you need to change your routine. I’m not that clued up on rowing times but that’s the short of it.

Ken Sington

3,959 posts

243 months

Sunday 12th September 2021
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If you are putting yourself through this 5x a week, could you benefit from more rest and recovery time between sessions instead?