Composite bonding dental work.

[biggbn]

Has anyone had this done? It may not be the best option for me as I grind my teeth and they are very small, but new dentist reckons he can build my front teeth up and give me a decent bite with composites. I am aware they can be fragile and I will have to sleep with a mouth guard to protect them, but has anyone had this procedure? Did they chip easily? Did you have to change your eating habits etc to preserve them? Any information gratefully received.

[Freshprince]

Had them for nearly 2 years, no issues and no change in my eating habits. Still in same condition as fitted. Compared to other more expensive options, its great value.

[PH_77]

I managed to badly chip both of my upper front teeth around thirty years ago. They were "fixed" with a composite bond. They're still going strong. No issues whatsoever.

[biggbn]

Thanks for your replies to what might seem a strange question. My teeth are a disaster due to grinding and the quote for this work is very attractive.

[PH_77]

biggbn said:

Thanks for your replies to what might seem a strange question. My teeth are a disaster due to grinding and the quote for this work is very attractive.

I should probably add that I have an overbite, and that I generally try to avoid biting into things like apples etc with my front teeth. Best of luck with it anyway.

[cheeky_chops]

biggbn said:

Has anyone had this done? It may not be the best option for me as I grind my teeth and they are very small, but new dentist reckons he can build my front teeth up and give me a decent bite with composites. I am aware they can be fragile and I will have to sleep with a mouth guard to protect them, but has anyone had this procedure? Did they chip easily? Did you have to change your eating habits etc to preserve them? Any information gratefully received.

Hi, sounds like traditional composites and as you said they can be fragile, fronts need layering/sculpting composite there is a high chance of chipping. Google for "bioclear" - a monolithic composite methodology.

[Peanut Gallery]

I have white composite front teeth - due to me introducing my teeth to the pavement and road after coming off my bicycle.

They usually stayed attached until I give them another introduction to the road, and then they are "easy" to have a new set built up. I have broken them off a few times pulling on toffee apples and the like, but this is rare. I do not change anything about my dental care etc for them.

Implants were briefly discussed, however as the composite usually stays in place until I forcefully remove it, an implant would do the same, and then when removed by the road, make even more of a mess.

From what you say, I would recommend you getting composite, and it is cheap enough that if you grind them away again, there is nothing stopping a new topping being added at a date in the future, or even 5 yearly.

Feel free to ask any questions, I have had these for 25 ish years and have had them replaced 11 times. (once due to food, once due to a bad install, the rest due to my in-ability to stay upright on two wheels with pedals.)

[TwistingMyMelon]

As above, smashed off my front teeth (and side teeth) after hitting concrete on a bike

All good here , cant tell they are there, dentist worked miracles

[cheeky_chops]

Peanut Gallery said:

... cheap enough that if you grind them away again, there is nothing stopping a new topping being added at a date in the future, or even 5 yearly.
Feel free to ask any questions, I have had these for 25 ish years and have had them replaced 11 times. (once due to food, once due to a bad install, the rest due to my in-ability to stay upright on two wheels with pedals.)

God ive cycled for years and havent come off that often let alone face first...

My missus is a restorative dentist and uses bioclear in 99.5% treatments now, i *think* she guarantees her composite restorations for 10 years (not against concrete obv...). The USA Dr who developed the methodology is saying 20 years based on case history.

They wont come off eating either - the tooth is shaped and bonded differently to traditional bonding/layering, the composite (3M Filtek is the best) is heated/set monolithically around the tooth - the only way it is coming off is with the whole tooth attached. As a measure of ££, they are more that traditional composites and less than crowns. You also dont need to have the tooth drilled back like a crown so its non destructive

[m3jappa]

Are we talking about the veneer of false teeth which are bonded to existing?

If so a couple of mates have it and they look incredible. About £1500 for top and bottom iirc and something i desperately need to look into.

[anonymous-user]

I’ve got one, probably 15 years odd now but I imagine technology has drastically moved on.

Wife had hers done and it was around £200-250 a tooth iirc, that was in Chester.

[biggbn]

Thanks all, you have given me the confidence to bite the bullet....or maybe not . The technique my dentist uses is very cheap yet seems very successful, I'm looking at £900 for top and bottom built up, booked in a few weeks from now, will see how it goes. Might even shave my beard off if it looks like I have teeth afterwards

[cheeky_chops]

Good luck - How many teeth is that for? Be interested to see before and after pics

[biggbn]

cheeky_chops said:

Good luck - How many teeth is that for? Be interested to see before and after pics

Basically most of my front teeth top and bottom! Will get pics I'm sure the dentist will take them. Don't think it will be done in one sitting, will get more info before I go in

[ayedubya]

Bit of a thread resurrection... My wife had some composite bonding about 10 years ago on her teeth when she lived in USA, purely cosmetic to improve the symmetry of her gnashers. She is going to need a bit on the small teether either side the top front two.

Any one have any ideas of cost? We are in glasgow, willing to travel. Have reservations about going abroad... our NHS dentist told us it wasn't an option on NHS and if some bonding could be applied it would be simple and unsightly.

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks

[TwistingMyMelon]

ayedubya said:

Bit of a thread resurrection... My wife had some composite bonding about 10 years ago on her teeth when she lived in USA, purely cosmetic to improve the symmetry of her gnashers. She is going to need a bit on the small teether either side the top front two.

Any one have any ideas of cost? We are in glasgow, willing to travel. Have reservations about going abroad... our NHS dentist told us it wasn't an option on NHS and if some bonding could be applied it would be simple and unsightly.

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks

See a private dentist in UK I would

Not a fan of dentistry abroad in case you need aftercare - I always like to be within travelling distance of the person doing the work

I had all my front ones repaired in the UK with composite after I smashed them all in half , tbh they look better than before they were smashed!

[Speckle]

ayedubya said:

Bit of a thread resurrection... My wife had some composite bonding about 10 years ago on her teeth when she lived in USA, purely cosmetic to improve the symmetry of her gnashers. She is going to need a bit on the small teether either side the top front two.

Any one have any ideas of cost? We are in glasgow, willing to travel. Have reservations about going abroad... our NHS dentist told us it wasn't an option on NHS and if some bonding could be applied it would be simple and unsightly.

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks

When I asked my dentist (based in Cheltenham) about the cost of composite bonding, she estimated £100 a tooth.

[m3jappa]

Can these composite bondings be used where theres missing teeth?

[Peanut Gallery]

m3jappa said:

Can these composite bondings be used where theres missing teeth?

For the ones I get given (Well, pay for cause I am not on an NHS dentist) cannot be used where there are missing teeth. They only build up an existing tooth. My front teeth were apparently dead, but still worked fine.

Note, they dont like you chewing your nails. Dentist, another appointment please.

[cringle]

My missus is a restorative dentist and uses bioclear in 99.5% treatments now, i *think* she guarantees her composite restorations for 10 years (not against concrete obv...). The USA Dr who developed the methodology is saying 20 years based on case history.

They wont come off eating either - the tooth is shaped and bonded differently to traditional bonding/layering, the composite (3M Filtek is the best) is heated/set monolithically around the tooth - the only way it is coming off is with the whole tooth attached. As a measure of ££, they are more that traditional composites and less than crowns. You also dont need to have the tooth drilled back like a crown so its non destructive





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I'm sorry but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Taking scraps from info from your Mrs and blurting it out on here isn't sound advice for anyone. You are not a dentist. Don't try and act like you are.

Firstly, the Bioclear method is hardly groundbreaking, it is a piece of plastic used to contain the composite to allow easier placement and minimal adjustment after. The vast majority of dentists doing this type of work are aware of it but do not use it. There are also other systems that I would say are simpler and offer the same results, if not better eg Smilefast. The bonding process is exactly the same regardless of how you place them. I place them freehand, not everyone is skilled enough to get good results but it works for me. What's more important is case selection, the bite (occlusion), tooth preparation, material selection, isolation of the tooth when bonding, and polishing protocols.

You say 3M Filtek is "best"? What does that mean? Is it easier to place? More thixotropic? Cheaper? Polish better? Last longer? I've used it for hundreds of fillings over the years but would never use it for cosmetic work on front teeth. Venus Pearl and Empress Direct have far better aesthetics.

As for it not being able to come off unless the tooth came with it...well that's just laughable. Every bond can fail. I see it on a weekly basis. If your Mrs is any good I'm sure she'd agree with everything I've written.