Mental health issues - how to see a doctor ?

Mental health issues - how to see a doctor ?

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loggo

Original Poster:

432 posts

117 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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My granddaughter had a baby six months ago and has been going downhill recently, she is now talking openly of suicide. She does not have a partner to help but has her own flat.

My daughter contacted the doctor today and was told that there are no appointments today but if she rings tomorrow at 08.00 she may get one.

We are afraid that the situation requires more urgent action and are fearful that she may try something silly however not sure what to try next.

Does anyone have any suggestions ?


Catz

4,812 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Call again and ask for at least a telephone appt, saying it’s urgent.

tex200

439 posts

176 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Use the nhs.co.uk website to find the number for urgent mental health helpline in her area.

You can phone yourself for advice if you feel that’s better than giving her the number.

She may have downplayed things to her GP if all they suggested was to phone back tomorrow.

https://www.nhs.uk/service-search/mental-health/fi...


paulmakin

681 posts

146 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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what geographical area ?

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

45 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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There will be a private GP service somewhere near her.

If you Google private GP and her area then I am sure something will come up.

The one near us is 80 quid for a consultation.

TwistingMyMelon

6,390 posts

210 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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If she says its for an urgent mental health issue, she should be able to get at least a telephone appt quickly

Sounds like a horrid case of post natal depression or similar poor thing

Is she able to stay with you for a bit?

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,240 posts

105 months

QuartzDad

2,336 posts

127 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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If she is talking openly of suicide call the local mental health crisis team

zetec

4,604 posts

256 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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I don't know where you are but dialling 111 and then option 2 is access to a mental health crisis team (well it is here in Essex).

loggo

Original Poster:

432 posts

117 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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paulmakin said:
what geographical area ?
Gwent/Monmouthshire

CheesecakeRunner

4,311 posts

96 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Where I live you can self refer to the IAPT service so there is no need to go through a GP. There may be something similar in your area.

https://www.covwarkpt.nhs.uk/iapt/

paulmakin

681 posts

146 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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had a quick trawl and it doesn't appear that there is a direct access/self-referral to a local mental health crisis team (and this is a mental health crisis) in the locality.

the local health literature tells that mental health services can be accessed in emergencies via AE (a local Liaison Psychiatry Team will be based there and will undertake initial review on behalf of the community mental health services). In practice, this model is somewhat dated but it is not uncommon even now despite the growth of 24/7 crisis teams etc. Access to the local crisis team is not open to all and does require an initial referral from an internal team/practitioner.

peri-natal mental health is taken very seriously and i cant think of any trusts that don't have a specialty team (although as a returning locum i'm not necessarily au fait with the latest developments nationally). A bit more digging and seen that there is a peri-natal team covering Gwent but contact details are a bit lacking - another nugget of advice on their NHS page is to request a referral via health visiting.

a bit drastic but contacting local children's services should also have the mental health services running. be aware though - whichever route is taken, social services will be involved even if it's only as far as an initial assessment of the child's needs.

dudleybloke

20,345 posts

191 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Any friends or family nearby to help out?

paulmakin

681 posts

146 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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still cant see any direct public access to local services but their website specifically advises the option of contacting NHS111 who will presumably be able to access the local mental health crisis service direct (they do in most if not all localities)

Edited by paulmakin on Tuesday 13th April 21:53

MitchT

16,153 posts

214 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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I approached my GP about my own difficulties in early Feb. I'm currently waiting for a course of CBT, but in the meantime I've been given a mental health first response number for emergencies. It's specific to Bradford NHS Trust, so won't be of any use here, but it's possible that there'll be something similar in other trusts too. Probably best to get onto the GP again and make sure they understand it's urgent and that there's an immediate risk. I don't consider myself to be immediately at risk but they gave me the details anyway.

I was also told about a service called SHOUT. https://giveusashout.org/
Text "SHOUT" to 85258 if you need help. Available 24/7.

Then there's Samaritans of course, call: 116 123

bristolbaron

5,030 posts

217 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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I’m fairly sure Monmouthshire comes under ABUHB. Out of hours first step would be 111 or 999 depending on severity, presenting her at A&E if necessary. If it can wait until the morning a more in depth explanation to the GP reception will either see an appointment or A&E referral.

https://abuhb.nhs.wales/urgent-out-of-hours/mental...

paulmakin

681 posts

146 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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best i can see currently is from the A Bevan Uni Health Board mental health strategy where it specifically speaks of the local Crisis Resolution & Home Treatment Team (which is a 24/7 crisis response and alternative to hospital admission service) with cases "often" referred to them "....through AE departments ..."

its where i'd be headed if there is immediate risk

loggo

Original Poster:

432 posts

117 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Could I thank you all for the input and apologies for not getting back sooner but it was a bit if a day

What developed was that after the first few responses on here we contacted the practice again and insisted on being given the practice managers name so that we could bring the incident to the notice of the AHA.

This led to a change attitude from the practice and a telephone call from the doctor was booked.

To be fair to the doctor she was everything one would want and took nearly an hour sorting thing out.

Grandparents (my wife and I) were on standby to have mum and baby stay as a precaution however the telephone call has calmed the situation down.

On a self critical note it must say something about me that, when faced with a crisis like this I felt a need to ask a motoring forum for advice !

What is most surprising though is the amount of sympathy and help that came back. I am more than touched. Many, many thanks

worsy

5,887 posts

180 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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loggo said:
Could I thank you all for the input and apologies for not getting back sooner but it was a bit if a day

What developed was that after the first few responses on here we contacted the practice again and insisted on being given the practice managers name so that we could bring the incident to the notice of the AHA.

This led to a change attitude from the practice and a telephone call from the doctor was booked.

To be fair to the doctor she was everything one would want and took nearly an hour sorting thing out.

Grandparents (my wife and I) were on standby to have mum and baby stay as a precaution however the telephone call has calmed the situation down.

On a self critical note it must say something about me that, when faced with a crisis like this I felt a need to ask a motoring forum for advice !

What is most surprising though is the amount of sympathy and help that came back. I am more than touched. Many, many thanks
Read the original post but didn't respond as I couldn't help and posts of well wishes seemed inappropriate based on the initial urgency. Am glad the situation has now improved and best wishes in addressing the catalyst.