Covid deaths in sunny hotter countries - vitamin d

[car2021]

I have looked hard at Australia in order to ascertain if those that died from C19 had low levels of Vitamin D but could not find anything

In England figures state 80% of whom died of Covid19 had low levels of vit D and the population on the whole is 25% on low vit D so looks like clear link.

Therefore, places like Austalia



, Kuwait, Calafornia India, South Africa, Mexico etc where it is a lot sunnier, the people that died, the majoirty, did they have low levels of vit D?
Thanks

[king arthur]

I don't have the figures but it seems there are places where you'd expect it not to be a problem, like Spain and Arizona, where there is still high vitamin D deficiency. Presumably because people tend to stay out of the sun in hot places.

[steveo3002]

youtube doctors saying just that , hot places folk tend to sit indoors with a/c on , avoid sun when possible plus older /unfit types wont be out so much anyway

so sunshine and fresh air does do you good after all ?

[Pothole]

I've been taking 500%RDA since the first lockdown. I haven't died yet.

[bigandclever]

car2021 said:

In England figures state 80% of whom died of Covid19 had low levels of vit D and the population on the whole is 25% on low vit D so looks like clear link.

A minor point of order before you start, the study I saw that had those numbers was Spanish.

[Louis Balfour]

Pothole said:

I've been taking 500%RDA since the first lockdown. I haven't died yet.

You do know, don't you, that if you die of Vitamin D toxicity they will still record your cause of death as COVID?

[Pothole]

Louis Balfour said:

Pothole said:

I've been taking 500%RDA since the first lockdown. I haven't died yet.

You do know, don't you, that if you die of Vitamin D toxicity they will still record your cause of death as COVID?

They might, but the as far as I can tell from the last 10 minutes reading about it, that's not about to happen.

[Louis Balfour]

Pothole said:

Louis Balfour said:

Pothole said:

I've been taking 500%RDA since the first lockdown. I haven't died yet.

You do know, don't you, that if you die of Vitamin D toxicity they will still record your cause of death as COVID?

They might, but the as far as I can tell from the last 10 minutes reading about it, that's not about to happen.

Why are you taking 500% RDA? Wouldn't you be just as well consuming 100% but of a decent quality product?

[king arthur]

Louis Balfour said:

Why are you taking 500% RDA? Wouldn't you be just as well consuming 100% but of a decent quality product?

Because the RDA is a very conservative amount. By his own admission Dr. Fauci takes 6000 IU's a day, that's way more than recommended.

[car2021]

Thank you all.

I've looked up Worlometers and Spain is sunny buy has high covid deaths as does Italy - not sure if they stay in or not.

Re the comments about Dr Facci takinf "6000 ius" daily - I read in the Express today that a doc and his team looking into Vit D and covid feel 4000 iu is required. I take the valupak vit D at 1000iu, so not sure if to take two tablets daily.

Re sunny countries and vit D - no news suppoerting that other than the uk news re the 80% One poster said this news re 80% dying re lack of vit D was "Spain" - I will try and post a link to the story.

[car2021]

Link below and confirms what I said re 80% having low vit D dying and 20% in England have low vit D, so defo something to consider.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/coronavirus-80-co...

Any news on other trials re Vit D, updates, please?

[Louis Balfour]

king arthur said:

Louis Balfour said:

Why are you taking 500% RDA? Wouldn't you be just as well consuming 100% but of a decent quality product?

Because the RDA is a very conservative amount. By his own admission Dr. Fauci takes 6000 IU's a day, that's way more than recommended.

I take 5000. But that is approximately the RDA according to the manufacturer.

[car2021]

Thank you all.

I've been looking on and off for weeks and again today at what are normal levels for men/women in the UK. Nothing really from the NHS.
Figures vary between 20-4-, 30 to 40 and most say a reading of 50 is good. mine is 52. Max most think for a blood test is 80mls or whatever they call it in a blood test.

Anyone go figures from the NHS or a trusted UK source other than those pushing the vitamins?

[bigandclever]

car2021 said:

Link below and confirms what I said re 80% having low vit D dying

https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/coronavirus-80-co...

It was Spain (in fact, one Spanish hospital), and it wasn’t deaths (it was 216 patients with covid). Apart from that, spot on.

[car2021]

bigandclever said:

It was Spain (in fact, one Spanish hospital), and it wasn’t deaths (it was 216 patients with covid). Apart from that, spot on.

My sincere apolgies as I just skim read. They mentioned the 20% in the uk and then go on to Spain. Many thanks for the heads up.

[MrGman]

From my limited research I believe the RDA has always been based around bone and muscle health not immune system requirements, I think it’s only just coming to light the true amount needed for a good immune system.

I think the (very) basics of it are that when the body first gets attacked by COVID it starts to produce tcells, this is where vitamin d comes in as it provides something to help the production of the needed tcells, if you have high levels of vitamin d the body is able to rapidly produce tcells and can kill COVID before it takes hold, if you’re deficient it can’t produce enough quickly enough to get it before it takes hold.
That’s just from my memory but there are videos on YouTube by doctor John Campbell going in to great detail over it.


Edited to add - about 15 minutes in is the explanation as to why vitamin d could be helping

https://youtu.be/B01ZlRfMnmU

Edited by MrGman on Sunday 8th November 17:58

[JapanRed]

car2021 said:

Link below and confirms what I said re 80% having low vit D dying and 20% in England have low vit D, so defo something to consider.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/coronavirus-80-co...

Any news on other trials re Vit D, updates, please?

Car2021 - You need to take this with a pinch of salt.

It was 200-odd patients out of 1.3M in Spain who have had COVID. It’s a super low number of people involved in the study. I’d wager that hypertension, obesity, diabetes etc etc is much more likely to lead to a COVID related death than low vitamin D levels.

[Pothole]

king arthur said:

Louis Balfour said:

Why are you taking 500% RDA? Wouldn't you be just as well consuming 100% but of a decent quality product?

Because the RDA is a very conservative amount.

Correct. And those are the smallest doses I found on sale.

[Prof Prolapse]

car2021 said:

I have looked hard at Australia in order to ascertain if those that died from C19 had low levels of Vitamin D but could not find anything

In England figures state 80% of whom died of Covid19 had low levels of vit D and the population on the whole is 25% on low vit D so looks like clear link.

Therefore, places like Austalia



, Kuwait, Calafornia India, South Africa, Mexico etc where it is a lot sunnier, the people that died, the majoirty, did they have low levels of vit D?
Thanks

I think you'll never find sufficient data because we (most research) don't routinely check for Vit D levels. Why would we?

Even if you did find a correlation, you have not discovered a causal relationship. You can plot number of iPhones per capita against rate of bowel cancer, it follows a linear trend, does that mean it's causal? No... Which is good for Steve Jobs... Well... Ish.

At best here you could have uncovered a hypothesis worth testing, which it almost certainly isn't. As we all know the discrepancies in these countries are easily explained by established and observable affects of seasonal changes, socio-economics, population density, and healthcare.

The vaccines will be released shortly. We've got a few in the pipeline, as well as all the covid treatments you can shake a gammy lung at. That's your panacea, not herbal remedies and vitamins.

[marksx]

Nowt to do with covid but I started taking 4000IU supplements in June following a blood test that identified a deficiency.

Didn't put a great deal of thought into the dose, just bought a giant pack on Amazon. A follow up call with the doc recommended I should still try to eat more high vitamin d foods.