Ankle, never the same again

Ankle, never the same again

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bobski1

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1,860 posts

111 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Years ago I rolled my ankle playing football & it's never really been the same again. Last night for some reason it started to hurt like I had sprained it again but all I did was clean & silicone a window & put up some blinds.

I did RICE it once it started to hurt & it helped but this morning it's still tender.

Previously it's never hurt like this, is it worth donning an ankle support for a few weeks to help?

Why once you roll them are they never the same

hotchy

4,596 posts

133 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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I'd get it checked out tbh since i roll mine several times a year playing basketball and once its healed, it's back to normal, usually takes a week or 2. A real bad one where the foot goes black, takes a bit longer but again my ankles always heal and go back to normal.

Lockdown however has fixed my achey knees.

mikal83

5,340 posts

259 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Rolled mine 2 weeks ago. Swelling down by 50% but aches a lot on the outside...and I limp like fick.

mike9009

7,610 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Feel your pain.

I broke my ankle about 30years ago as a teenager. It has always been a weak point, but generally okay. Football was my achilles heel and would often end up on crutches having rolled it again and again.

Latterly, I try to avoid any impact or twisting sports, so I mainly cycle nowadays, to protect it. I think it also impacted my knee in the same leg as long walks can induce pain in that too. I have found wearing the decent supportive hiking shoes has helped massively.

If worried about it, I would get it checked out though.....

Skyedriver

18,960 posts

289 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Wife broke her ankle about 12 years ago.
The plaster came off after 6 weeks, I saw the xray that was done then ad the break was obvious but the doc said it was OK
She used to walk miles and miles, now she finds a few miles enough now before her ankle aches although a bunion now causes more problems

smashy

3,079 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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In 1987 my wife turned her ankle on the steps of a pub on the weymouth harbour despite so much therapy nhs and otherwise you name it... it has caused her no end of problems since

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Rolled my right ankle twice in the last 5 years, it's much weaker now and I have to be really careful not to do it again.


MOBB

3,814 posts

134 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Rolled mine 2 years ago and it’s never been the same since, not so much pain but it rolls over again so easily :-(

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Same here - rolled 30 years ago.

When Im doing a heavy skipping session at the gym it hurts like hell after on that ankle

bobski1

Original Poster:

1,860 posts

111 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Will go to get it checked at some point, from being in pain to today now it's fine & no aches. Honestly have no idea what caused it or why it was trouble for 2 days.

Definitely does seem weaker than the other side. Maybe I ankle support it for few weeks to help heal whatever is damaged

Watchman

6,391 posts

252 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Rolled over on both of mine since my early teens (now 51) and have been doing it periodically ever since. I read something on-line that said once you go over, the ankle usually is weakened. Mine certainly are.

I can't run any more, and walking over rough ground is only possible with walking boots laced-up tight around my ankles. I can cycle though, and since adopting clipless pedals (on my MTB), find this the perfect way to exercise (although not often enough).

Megaflow

9,935 posts

232 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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I sprained my left one about 6 years ago, fell off a step ladder. Initially it was just a little sore, nothing to worry about, we went around some friends that evening, and after being sat down for a while, I couldn’t walk on it when I tired, having had a few beers I went to bed and figured it will be alright in the morning, and it was a little better. But years later if I don’t keep it moving it basically seizes up and it always feels like it needs to be stretched to breaking point.

dirky dirk

3,159 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Rolled mine years ago playing five a side
The bruising was in my toes

They never feel the same

drmike37

503 posts

63 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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If the ligament heals and you do your exercises properly it should get back to normal.
Possible reasons for ongoing issues:
1. Poor rehab, meaning poor proprioception and muscular control, and repeated sprains.
2. Ligament not healing properly. Can cause actual instability.
3. Osteochondral defect. Essentially when you go over on your ankle, the talus smacks a hole in the tibial cartilage. Not common but you can see it on an mri.
Probably some other small print, but I’m not an ankle surgeon.
All can be sorted by a good specialist orthopaedic foot and ankle service.

Unless it’s been so long you now have arthritis.

Piginapoke

5,062 posts

192 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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I’ve done mine twice while running, torn ligaments, swelling, blood under skin, really painful.

Years later, though, running has made my ankles much stronger. I regularly turn them trail running but have no pain and just carry on.

Roger Irrelevant

3,113 posts

120 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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It's a bit of an occupational hazard with fell running - I go over on mine at least a couple of times a year. For minor incidents it's a matter of carry on but be really careful, if it's a blood pooling under the anklebone job (very seldom thankfully), then no running for a good week, probably two.

It's bloody annoying as it never seems to happen on really rough ground - it's invariably when I'm on a good path so not paying attention. The very worst time that I went over on it I'd covered and miles of rocky stuff around the Scafells without issue, then completely knackered my ankle on the road about 200m from my car.

Piginapoke

5,062 posts

192 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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In my neck of the woods it’s footpaths In the countryside that have dried as hard as concrete, a total nightmare for ankles!

Megaflow

9,935 posts

232 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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drmike37 said:
If the ligament heals and you do your exercises properly it should get back to normal.
Possible reasons for ongoing issues:
1. Poor rehab, meaning poor proprioception and muscular control, and repeated sprains.
2. Ligament not healing properly. Can cause actual instability.
3. Osteochondral defect. Essentially when you go over on your ankle, the talus smacks a hole in the tibial cartilage. Not common but you can see it on an mri.
Probably some other small print, but I’m not an ankle surgeon.
All can be sorted by a good specialist orthopaedic foot and ankle service.

Unless it’s been so long you now have arthritis.
I did NHS physio and private physio, neither seemed to help. What would recommend as a next step?

drmike37

503 posts

63 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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If you did the physio properly, and you still have ongoing trouble, the next step is to get to see a foot and ankle specialist orthopaedic surgeon.
No harm in getting an initial private consultation (usu about £200 ish) to discuss options and see where you want to take it.

cologne2792

2,144 posts

133 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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I sprained one ankle at 16 in school and the other at 32 whilst working.
At 16, I obviously knew everything, and when told to stay off it for 24 hours, didn't. I'm now 51 and every damp winter it aches.
At 32, I stayed off it for 36 hours and it's fine.