Anyone take probiotic supplements?
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I think the latest studies that have come out on probiotics have shown they don’t actually do anything beneficial and in fact could be worse for your natural gut flora/microbes.
It had been argued they are especially good after a course of antibiotics, which would wipe out a large portion of you good gut bacteria. However that appears to have been overstated.
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(18)3...
It had been argued they are especially good after a course of antibiotics, which would wipe out a large portion of you good gut bacteria. However that appears to have been overstated.
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(18)3...
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I am at an age were i am taking 3 prescription drugs on a daily basis - Perindopril, Xarelto, and Tamsulosin. A side effect of two of them is Diarrhoea. For several years i seem to have been going through a fortnightly cycle of being constipated, followed by diarrhoea. My GP seems unconcerned - its inconvenient, rather than life threatening. I have a healthy diet with plenty of fibre, water and not too much meat. I exercise daily.
A couple of weeks ago I bought some Physis Advanced Probiotics and my toiletry problems seems to be solved, at a stroke. I do not intend taking them for more than 3-weeks, but would recommend them to anyone with similar problems, IBS etc. The article posted above is not an easy read, but only really discusses post antibiotic use.
It will be interesting to see what happens when i do stop taking them.
I am at an age were i am taking 3 prescription drugs on a daily basis - Perindopril, Xarelto, and Tamsulosin. A side effect of two of them is Diarrhoea. For several years i seem to have been going through a fortnightly cycle of being constipated, followed by diarrhoea. My GP seems unconcerned - its inconvenient, rather than life threatening. I have a healthy diet with plenty of fibre, water and not too much meat. I exercise daily.
A couple of weeks ago I bought some Physis Advanced Probiotics and my toiletry problems seems to be solved, at a stroke. I do not intend taking them for more than 3-weeks, but would recommend them to anyone with similar problems, IBS etc. The article posted above is not an easy read, but only really discusses post antibiotic use.
It will be interesting to see what happens when i do stop taking them.
Mr Whippy said:
Gut health is massively correlated to state of mind.
Isn't it the other way around? The balance of your gut flora affects your state of mind, driven by the food you eat and whether your body can absorb nutrients for example? E-coli in the gut seems to be a major influence on feelings of wellbeing (at least from what I recall).rdjohn said:
It will be interesting to see what happens when i do stop taking them.
Perhaps you could experiment with apple cider vinegar - that's got a number of beneficial compounds in it, as well as the ability to fully break down your food and increase bioavailability of the nutrients.I think it's a great thing to have around in cases of stomach upset and indigestion.
ReverendCounter said:
Mr Whippy said:
Gut health is massively correlated to state of mind.
Isn't it the other way around? The balance of your gut flora affects your state of mind, driven by the food you eat and whether your body can absorb nutrients for example? E-coli in the gut seems to be a major influence on feelings of wellbeing (at least from what I recall).Stress can reduce the efficacy of your gut lining which then impacts nutrient absorption.
Either way there is plenty to focus on alongside probiotic supplements.
This modern world of working lunches and grabbing a bite to eat on the run, and ‘fast food’ are all just a big no no for a healthy life, before you go supplementing.
Mr Whippy said:
Where do you get Apple Cider Vinegar?
Seems a bit like a good quality supplement with little downside concern.
No cows milk based products and no yeasts unlike most stuff you’d be given for gut health.
Most health food shops, make sure it contains The Mother, that's the cloudy stuff sat at the bottom.Seems a bit like a good quality supplement with little downside concern.
No cows milk based products and no yeasts unlike most stuff you’d be given for gut health.
mcelliott said:
Mr Whippy said:
Where do you get Apple Cider Vinegar?
Seems a bit like a good quality supplement with little downside concern.
No cows milk based products and no yeasts unlike most stuff you’d be given for gut health.
Most health food shops, make sure it contains The Mother, that's the cloudy stuff sat at the bottom.Seems a bit like a good quality supplement with little downside concern.
No cows milk based products and no yeasts unlike most stuff you’d be given for gut health.
Mix your ACV with sparkling water and it's a bit like drinking cider.
rdjohn said:
Thread resurrection alert
I am at an age were i am taking 3 prescription drugs on a daily basis - Perindopril, Xarelto, and Tamsulosin. A side effect of two of them is Diarrhoea. For several years i seem to have been going through a fortnightly cycle of being constipated, followed by diarrhoea. My GP seems unconcerned - its inconvenient, rather than life threatening. I have a healthy diet with plenty of fibre, water and not too much meat. I exercise daily.
A couple of weeks ago I bought some Physis Advanced Probiotics and my toiletry problems seems to be solved, at a stroke. I do not intend taking them for more than 3-weeks, but would recommend them to anyone with similar problems, IBS etc. The article posted above is not an easy read, but only really discusses post antibiotic use.
It will be interesting to see what happens when i do stop taking them.
Interesting. I used to take probiotics for IBS, but when I spoke to the consultant she said they normally recommend it for constipation. So now I take pshyllium capsule(s) which helps establish normal digestive cycles with insoluble fibre. For some people though, fibre makes it worse. I am at an age were i am taking 3 prescription drugs on a daily basis - Perindopril, Xarelto, and Tamsulosin. A side effect of two of them is Diarrhoea. For several years i seem to have been going through a fortnightly cycle of being constipated, followed by diarrhoea. My GP seems unconcerned - its inconvenient, rather than life threatening. I have a healthy diet with plenty of fibre, water and not too much meat. I exercise daily.
A couple of weeks ago I bought some Physis Advanced Probiotics and my toiletry problems seems to be solved, at a stroke. I do not intend taking them for more than 3-weeks, but would recommend them to anyone with similar problems, IBS etc. The article posted above is not an easy read, but only really discusses post antibiotic use.
It will be interesting to see what happens when i do stop taking them.
If you don't like the taste of apple cider vinegar, you can get it as tablets. Some come with added pectin, which is supposed to soften gall stones.
Mr Whippy said:
Where do you get Apple Cider Vinegar?
I think Aldi do it:https://www.aldi.co.uk/organic-raw-apple-cider-vin...
You can get it from health food places in a 5l container which is better value at about £15-£20.
Edited by ReverendCounter on Sunday 14th March 19:14
Turn7 said:
Mr Bezos's corner shop seems to have sold out of your one. He has Braggs, though. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Braggs-Organic-Apple-Cide...Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff