Dental implant
Discussion
My teeth over one side are in single numbers so I find out that my rear one is going to be removed and therefore I am thinking implants.
I know that it's not going to be cheap. I'm thinking 2 implants plus 3 or 4 tooth bridge, Is that too wide? (a bridge too far
)
Can one end be tethered to a good tooth and implant other end or not strong enough?
Thinking £4100 for two teeth plus £500 per tooth on bridge. Is that about right.
What's the procedure? Looking on the website (I won't link due to rules). Tooth out and implants in straight away? Does that mean I will have 'pegs' for a few weeks before teeth installed?
Sorry if post is a bit erratic. Typing as I'm thinking.
I know that it's not going to be cheap. I'm thinking 2 implants plus 3 or 4 tooth bridge, Is that too wide? (a bridge too far
)Can one end be tethered to a good tooth and implant other end or not strong enough?
Thinking £4100 for two teeth plus £500 per tooth on bridge. Is that about right.
What's the procedure? Looking on the website (I won't link due to rules). Tooth out and implants in straight away? Does that mean I will have 'pegs' for a few weeks before teeth installed?
Sorry if post is a bit erratic. Typing as I'm thinking.
Needed two implants after an NHS dentist extracted the wrong tooth... pretty sure it was circa £4000 and that’s 10 years ago.
From what I recall the ‘pegs’ were in a few weeks before the ‘teeth’ were permanently fitted. Had no issue since and these are the rear two lower molars so get a lot of daily use. I am super careful about what I eat though, no toffee!
From what I recall the ‘pegs’ were in a few weeks before the ‘teeth’ were permanently fitted. Had no issue since and these are the rear two lower molars so get a lot of daily use. I am super careful about what I eat though, no toffee!
Morningside said:
£4.1k is on their website. I know consultation fee etc 
. Did she have xrays etc first to see if suitable?
Stupid question but...did they hurt being put in? I presume they cut the gum, drill and then screw them in?
She said, no more uncomfortable than root canal, Yep lots of x-rays and moulds.. Did she have xrays etc first to see if suitable?Stupid question but...did they hurt being put in? I presume they cut the gum, drill and then screw them in?
We don't go into details as it's not my scene.
OK. Right well that was interesting. excuse the random sentences and poor spelling!
Firstly I needed a tooth removed but we won't talk about that.
The two implants have been fitted and I surprised myself by going through with it.
Took four antibiotic tablet one hour before the visit as suggested.
Arrived at correct time and after the injections (plus many visits to the toilet!) I waited for them to take effect.
From what I could feel the top of my gum was cut and then the drilling started. There is a LOT of drilling of what feels like a pilot hole and then a burring drill with a vibration, plenty of vibration! My wife who waited outside said it sounded like a hammer drill.
The vibration was like having your head resting on a washing machine on spin mode!
It feels like there is a rod removed from the middle and there is a cracking feeling. Not sure if that's the bone or if it is the implant material bedding in.
Worse bit was the things being ratcheted down. with them finally being hand tightened by a ratchet set(!) and you can feel the pressure and I must admit I thought the bone was going to crack.
After that the stitches ware added.
I''ve been told the use painkillers and ibuprofen in alternate 2 hour intervals also to wash with salt water. My mouth feels very sore, I'm exhausted (stress) and relaxing for a couple of days.
So that's it for the first visit. Next one is on January 3rd.
Let you all know how I feel in the morning.
Firstly I needed a tooth removed but we won't talk about that.
The two implants have been fitted and I surprised myself by going through with it.
Took four antibiotic tablet one hour before the visit as suggested.
Arrived at correct time and after the injections (plus many visits to the toilet!) I waited for them to take effect.
From what I could feel the top of my gum was cut and then the drilling started. There is a LOT of drilling of what feels like a pilot hole and then a burring drill with a vibration, plenty of vibration! My wife who waited outside said it sounded like a hammer drill.
The vibration was like having your head resting on a washing machine on spin mode!
It feels like there is a rod removed from the middle and there is a cracking feeling. Not sure if that's the bone or if it is the implant material bedding in.
Worse bit was the things being ratcheted down. with them finally being hand tightened by a ratchet set(!) and you can feel the pressure and I must admit I thought the bone was going to crack.
After that the stitches ware added.
I''ve been told the use painkillers and ibuprofen in alternate 2 hour intervals also to wash with salt water. My mouth feels very sore, I'm exhausted (stress) and relaxing for a couple of days.
So that's it for the first visit. Next one is on January 3rd.
Let you all know how I feel in the morning.
I really wish I could this as my teeth are appaling - 2 broken fronts and a broken molar still in place.
I have a huge and nauseous fear of anything dentitstry and couldnt even read your post without feeling ill.
I fI could get a GA and sort it one hit for 8k Id probably do it tbh.....
I fully and honestly understand exactly what you mean as I was and still am terrified of dentists.
My teeth were dreadful. two cracked and broken front teeth and a broken molar on the other side so eating was next to impossible.
I would be brave and make an appointment with the dentist and as soon as the needle came out I would make my excuse and leave. This went on for many, many years and would try all methods when the toothache would set in. I lost count of the nights I would pace the floor or almost bang my head on the wall due to the intense pain.
Even when the school dentist (remember those?!) used to visit I would beg mum to write a letter to excuse me going.
My wife one day had enough and I must admit I was quite ill over it and hadn't eaten properly and made me go again.
I finally found a dentist. She is lovely. Did't treat me with anger or showed signs of impatience when I said how I was frightened.
Please, please ask around or look for one that can help you cope.
What I'm having done is my fault for years of neglect. I honestly wish I had done it when I was younger.
My teeth were dreadful. two cracked and broken front teeth and a broken molar on the other side so eating was next to impossible.
I would be brave and make an appointment with the dentist and as soon as the needle came out I would make my excuse and leave. This went on for many, many years and would try all methods when the toothache would set in. I lost count of the nights I would pace the floor or almost bang my head on the wall due to the intense pain.
Even when the school dentist (remember those?!) used to visit I would beg mum to write a letter to excuse me going.
My wife one day had enough and I must admit I was quite ill over it and hadn't eaten properly and made me go again.
I finally found a dentist. She is lovely. Did't treat me with anger or showed signs of impatience when I said how I was frightened.
Please, please ask around or look for one that can help you cope.
What I'm having done is my fault for years of neglect. I honestly wish I had done it when I was younger.
First night. Woke up at 3:30am. Quite painful. I'm finding eating is difficult as I can only eat on one side due to extraction and implants.
Had a doze this afternoon as I felt exhausted. Sleep catching up I expect.
Oddly I'm finding the extraction site is more painful. Another odd thing is that it's still a bit numb but due to the amount of injections I'm not surprised. I was also warned that this might be the case.
Still taking the tablets and eating soft stuff but did manage a pasta tonight.
Had a doze this afternoon as I felt exhausted. Sleep catching up I expect.
Oddly I'm finding the extraction site is more painful. Another odd thing is that it's still a bit numb but due to the amount of injections I'm not surprised. I was also warned that this might be the case.
Still taking the tablets and eating soft stuff but did manage a pasta tonight.
Can’t remember how long ago, 20 years give or take, maybe more, my wife was told by Guys Hospital Periodontal Department, that the only way to end up with a decent looking set of teeth was to go for implants.
I was quoted £25,000 in Pimlico, London.
I did an online search, and to make a long story short, she had it done by a Belgian dentist, in Portugal, £11,700.
She was happy, I was happy, her teeth look great, she’s been back once, and had some screws adjusted, for free I’d add.
BUT, the exchange rate then was something like €1.75 to the £, different story now.
I was quoted £25,000 in Pimlico, London.
I did an online search, and to make a long story short, she had it done by a Belgian dentist, in Portugal, £11,700.
She was happy, I was happy, her teeth look great, she’s been back once, and had some screws adjusted, for free I’d add.
BUT, the exchange rate then was something like €1.75 to the £, different story now.
OH currently being lined up for one after an extraction.
My fault of course for putting Revels in the fridge, and her getting a toffee one.
Total cost - extraction, temp bridge, 3d imaging to see if bone graft needed, bone graft, implant,( bit they screw in) then crowning of the implant.
£6k.
Included in this is also several hygenist visits throughout to check everything is going OK
Looking at 10-12 months in total - with the extraction, you have to let the hole settle before the graft, and then let the graft take before you do the implant.
Sounds like as the extraction was previous work there are some bits already done.
If anyone is looking at implants what is apparent is that some dentists will quote around £2.5k, but that could just be for the implant. On top of this you may then have to budget for all the rest (including the final crown) and the implant dentist may not be interested in doing this other stuff.
My fault of course for putting Revels in the fridge, and her getting a toffee one.
Total cost - extraction, temp bridge, 3d imaging to see if bone graft needed, bone graft, implant,( bit they screw in) then crowning of the implant.
£6k.
Included in this is also several hygenist visits throughout to check everything is going OK
Looking at 10-12 months in total - with the extraction, you have to let the hole settle before the graft, and then let the graft take before you do the implant.
Sounds like as the extraction was previous work there are some bits already done.
If anyone is looking at implants what is apparent is that some dentists will quote around £2.5k, but that could just be for the implant. On top of this you may then have to budget for all the rest (including the final crown) and the implant dentist may not be interested in doing this other stuff.
Yes, found that as well. The first payment was for the implant (paid) and then in January I get the crown etc (2 implants plus crown). This is a separate fee but I knew this and was all explained with a comprehensive document with full cost breakdown.
I will say that the implant I'm having is not at the extraction site.
I will say that the implant I'm having is not at the extraction site.
Morningside said:
Interesting. Has the price dropped over the last few years for the same procedure? Do you think you would have had it done here now?
I’m unsure if this is in reply to my wife’s treatment in Portugal, I don’t think the price for these procedures ever goes down, probably up only.I’ve no idea what the Belgian guy’s fee structure is now, but you have to remember that after he’d done his preliminary examination, taken X-Rays, and I’d paid a private clinic X amount for an MRI scan, he gave me a bottom line in euros.
At the prevailing rate, that equated to £11,700, I could live with that, it was way better than £25,000 in U.K.
So no, I’m sure that the U.K. price would likely be nearer £35,000 plus now, so if she had needed the treatment now, I’d be looking for somewhere with good reviews outside the euro zone.
Frank7 said:
Morningside said:
Interesting. Has the price dropped over the last few years for the same procedure? Do you think you would have had it done here now?
I’m unsure if this is in reply to my wife’s treatment in Portugal, I don’t think the price for these procedures ever goes down, probably up only.I’ve no idea what the Belgian guy’s fee structure is now, but you have to remember that after he’d done his preliminary examination, taken X-Rays, and I’d paid a private clinic X amount for an MRI scan, he gave me a bottom line in euros.
At the prevailing rate, that equated to £11,700, I could live with that, it was way better than £25,000 in U.K.
So no, I’m sure that the U.K. price would likely be nearer £35,000 plus now, so if she had needed the treatment now, I’d be looking for somewhere with good reviews outside the euro zone.
I know someone who went to Thailand for liposuction and was basically pushed out the door as soon that he had the procedure.
Morningside said:
Yes, it was in reply. That's good value. But what about flights, hotels etc. they need to be factored in. Plus and I know this will sound harsh what about the standard of hygiene and aftercare
I know someone who went to Thailand for liposuction and was basically pushed out the door as soon that he had the procedure.
As for flights, accommodation etc., from initial examination to satisfactory conclusion, it involved 3 round trip flights, plus on each occasion I rented an apartment and hired a car.I know someone who went to Thailand for liposuction and was basically pushed out the door as soon that he had the procedure.
We looked on these trips as mini vacations, and I went the apartment route rather than hotel, as I figured, rightly, that Nicky would need some TLC, like me fixing her some soup while her gums were tender.
Whatever these trips cost, plus the treatment, came in way below the original £25,000 quoted in U.K., plus we were enjoying the sun of the Algarve, although I have to stress, this was at a time before Uber was thought of, and driving a Black Cab was very remunerative.
As for hygiene, the dentist’s surgery was pristine, he had a wall full of diplomas from Belgian and American universities and med schools, a relaxed, charming manner, and spoke fluent English, Flemish, French, and Portuguese, and Nicky said, “Plus it didn’t hurt that he looked like Colin Farrell’s twin brother!”
On a couple of occasions, he came to the apartment we’d rented after his office closed, just to check that Nicky was doing okay.
He sends emails saying, “If you’re ever over here for a vacation, come in to see me, and I’ll check the screws are okay, and adjust them if need be, no charge.”
Just found this so havent read most of it sorry.
However I had an NHS dentist who basically ruined my teeth over the years such as too long bridges etc. My uk quotes were up around the £32/34k mark
....I went to hungary all in £12.500 about a third of the work was done in their London Office,I wouldnt have done it if they hadnt had a uk office ...they were great.........but there was a price to pay 4 hour sessions on the seat as it was all compressed into a time frame.
However I had an NHS dentist who basically ruined my teeth over the years such as too long bridges etc. My uk quotes were up around the £32/34k mark
....I went to hungary all in £12.500 about a third of the work was done in their London Office,I wouldnt have done it if they hadnt had a uk office ...they were great.........but there was a price to pay 4 hour sessions on the seat as it was all compressed into a time frame.
Next stage:
Today after two injections I had the gums cut open and what I sensed to be top unscrewed and then the pegs installed.
Fortunately both implants have taken well and so I now have a small set of plastic teeth and these are just to cover the pegs until it heals over (3 weeks time).
I will say the sensation of having "teeth" there after ten years feels very, very odd. It seems stranger then when they were removed!
Today after two injections I had the gums cut open and what I sensed to be top unscrewed and then the pegs installed.
Fortunately both implants have taken well and so I now have a small set of plastic teeth and these are just to cover the pegs until it heals over (3 weeks time).
I will say the sensation of having "teeth" there after ten years feels very, very odd. It seems stranger then when they were removed!
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