Organ Donation Opt Out

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TwigtheWonderkid

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44,376 posts

155 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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So the Tories have gone crazy and done something good. Everyone is now an organ donor unless they opt out. I hope this takes effect immediately. A few people are bound to die of shock that Theresa May has got something right. Their organs could be useful.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

104 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Very good.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

289 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Already in place in Wales.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

252 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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I'm an organ donor. I carry the card. I encourage everyone to do the same. But I still think it should be an opt in system.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

131 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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B17NNS said:
I'm an organ donor. I carry the card. I encourage everyone to do the same. But I still think it should be an opt in system.
Why?

If I'm strongly anti, for whatever reason, then it's up to me to register that by opting out - and that's perfectly acceptable.

If, otoh, I'm simply lazy - then why wouldn't my bits be fair game?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

252 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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I think it should be an individual's decision to allow his or her body to be used for spare parts. Not the government's.

hairyben

8,516 posts

188 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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B17NNS said:
I think it should be an individual's decision to allow his or her body to be used for spare parts. Not the government's.
It is...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

131 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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B17NNS said:
I think it should be an individual's decision to allow his or her body to be used for spare parts. Not the government's.
Nobody's saying otherwise. If you decide not to allow your body to be used for spares, then that's fine. Simply opt out.

The question isn't one of whether you can decide or not, simply what the default assumption is, where somebody hasn't made their decision known.

Steve Campbell

2,185 posts

173 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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B17NNS said:
I think it should be an individual's decision to allow his or her body to be used for spare parts. Not the government's.
I can understand this sentiment. However, there are too many who never consider it....and even if they are "pro" organ donation they don't discuss it with relatives. It then comes down to a tough question for those relatives at a time of extreme emotion.

Currently, it's not working, there are hundreds of people waiting for organs, and the system isn't helping.

I think it's a great idea to switch the emphasis. If an individual doesn't like it, opt out, no questions asked....no problems.

55palfers

5,973 posts

169 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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I have often thought that if you're not on the Donor register, you can't have a transplant.

RizzoTheRat

25,808 posts

197 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Why?

If I'm strongly anti, for whatever reason, then it's up to me to register that by opting out - and that's perfectly acceptable.

If, otoh, I'm simply lazy - then why wouldn't my bits be fair game?
I wouldn't object to getting a lazy persons kidney, but I wouldn't want a lazy eye...


A sensible change in my opinion, anyone who doesn't like will still be able to opt out. However the BBC article says there's due to be a 12 week consultation about it later in the year, so it's a way off happening yet, if at all. a bit of frothing at the mouth going on in the comments section though http://www.bbc.com/news/health-41435255

anonymous-user

59 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Surely this must be part of the evil tory scum plan to privatise your body and sell it to the highest bidder from their big business/pharma friends group.





Or a good idea.


Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

13,240 posts

105 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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I'm not pro-Tory, but this is long overdue.

Funk

26,498 posts

214 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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55palfers said:
I have often thought that if you're not on the Donor register, you can't have a transplant.
Funnily enough I had this conversation with colleagues following the news this morning. My view is that I would be perfectly willing to accept organs to save my life, therefore I should also be willing to donate to save others. If you're not willing to donate, someone who is should take precedence in the queue.

I've been a registered donor for years and they are welcome to whatever is usable when I die. Off the back of the conversation two colleagues decided to register as well which is great. The decision to make it opt-out is a great one and I hope it comes into force.

filski666

3,844 posts

197 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Funny, I thought this had already been implemented.... Oh well...about bloody time!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

131 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Funk said:
55palfers said:
I have often thought that if you're not on the Donor register, you can't have a transplant.
Funnily enough I had this conversation with colleagues following the news this morning. My view is that I would be perfectly willing to accept organs to save my life, therefore I should also be willing to donate to save others. If you're not willing to donate, someone who is should take precedence in the queue.
Yup, works for me.

Funk said:
Off the back of the conversation two colleagues decided to register as well which is great.
That, right there, says everything about whether it's a good idea or not. Two people who are quite happy to donate, but simply hadn't got round to it.

BTW, we all know that we can register it against our driving licence, right? Everybody who's applied for a driving licence since 1994 has been asked explicitly - and everybody who's applied online since 2011 has had to answer before they can continue with their application. This is renewals, as well as new licences. Look on your photocard - if code 115 is on there at the end, then you're opted-in.

sc0tt

18,115 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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How do I opt out?

kowalski655

14,871 posts

148 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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What on earth is there to consult about? If they made the law now, then if you object just opt out and there will be no difference to your life at all...or indeed death! Why hang about.

andy_s

19,518 posts

264 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Yay, 115, I'm opted in and didn't even remember doing it. Great.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

131 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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sc0tt said:
How do I opt out?
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/register-to-donate/refuse-to-donate/

Genuine question - why do you want to?