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OK, I'll try and keep it brief...
Bad, bad, *bad* headaches - front of the face, over the eyes on the brow, eye sockets. Feels like there is pressure in my eyes (my actual eyeballs seem to ache) and like I've been punched in the nose.
Eyes also feel very sore, like they've got shampoo in them. Especially bad in cold wind. Bit of ecxzema around one of them too.
Jaw joint just in front of left ear feels very very sore (in a muscular way - quite tender to touch). Feels like a little pea in there too... teeth hurt too and black circles under my eyes
I also feel completely knackered!
Just finished a course of antibiotics - prescribed over the phone by triage nurse for poss. sinusitis, but they haven't helped at all.
So, do I see a doctor, dentist, physio, chiropractor.... undertaker?!
Thanks.
Bad, bad, *bad* headaches - front of the face, over the eyes on the brow, eye sockets. Feels like there is pressure in my eyes (my actual eyeballs seem to ache) and like I've been punched in the nose.
Eyes also feel very sore, like they've got shampoo in them. Especially bad in cold wind. Bit of ecxzema around one of them too.
Jaw joint just in front of left ear feels very very sore (in a muscular way - quite tender to touch). Feels like a little pea in there too... teeth hurt too and black circles under my eyes
I also feel completely knackered!
Just finished a course of antibiotics - prescribed over the phone by triage nurse for poss. sinusitis, but they haven't helped at all.
So, do I see a doctor, dentist, physio, chiropractor.... undertaker?!
Thanks.
I have this. No pain yet. Do you grind your teeth at night? Check to see if they are flattening? You probably clench at night too.
Specialists are hard to come by and very expensive. Mine charges £300 an hour, but 'normal' dentists seem to just say don't worry about it. Aparently tmj disorder isn't something taught in dentistry courses!
The way forward is to get X-rays/MRI to find out exactly what's wrong. It's all to do with the jaw joint.
Www.openwide.biz - Andre Hedger is a genius but extremely expensive! I think I need braces to fix my problem. I also have a misaligned bite.
But as a first step, have you considered your posture? First visit I had to the tmj specialist they told me to get some orthotics for the flat feet I didn't know I had!
My unbearable headaches which I thought were down to my jaw went instantly when I got custom insoles. My feet were messing up my hips, which was messing up my spine, which was messing up my neck and causing me to have to 'hold' it up, which in turn didnt help my jaw.....
My jaw still needs attention but I haven't had a single headache in 4 months since I got my insoles. I used to have one every single day.
Specialists are hard to come by and very expensive. Mine charges £300 an hour, but 'normal' dentists seem to just say don't worry about it. Aparently tmj disorder isn't something taught in dentistry courses!
The way forward is to get X-rays/MRI to find out exactly what's wrong. It's all to do with the jaw joint.
Www.openwide.biz - Andre Hedger is a genius but extremely expensive! I think I need braces to fix my problem. I also have a misaligned bite.
But as a first step, have you considered your posture? First visit I had to the tmj specialist they told me to get some orthotics for the flat feet I didn't know I had!
My unbearable headaches which I thought were down to my jaw went instantly when I got custom insoles. My feet were messing up my hips, which was messing up my spine, which was messing up my neck and causing me to have to 'hold' it up, which in turn didnt help my jaw.....
My jaw still needs attention but I haven't had a single headache in 4 months since I got my insoles. I used to have one every single day.
'For the loss of a tooth...'
One of the problems if you have to have an upper first molar extracted, for whatever reason, is that timing is critical. Leave it too late (probably after age 11 or 12) then the opposing lower molar will start to overerupt, and the upper second molar will start to drift forward into the space - not a full body drift , but there will be some tipping as well.
That will most probably create some interference in the normal bite function, which will require a degree of adaptation in the muscle patterns, possibly triggering maladaptive positioning of the TMJ. Should this become chronic, reflexive positioning of the mandible will place additional stress on the auxilliary muscles, such as temporalis, with associated tension and pain symptoms.
This is a theoretical sequence, who knows how your situation works.
We recognise that jaw pain can mimic many other conditions.
Tooth pain > joint pain > head pain > neck pain > shoulder pain etc etc
One of the problems if you have to have an upper first molar extracted, for whatever reason, is that timing is critical. Leave it too late (probably after age 11 or 12) then the opposing lower molar will start to overerupt, and the upper second molar will start to drift forward into the space - not a full body drift , but there will be some tipping as well.
That will most probably create some interference in the normal bite function, which will require a degree of adaptation in the muscle patterns, possibly triggering maladaptive positioning of the TMJ. Should this become chronic, reflexive positioning of the mandible will place additional stress on the auxilliary muscles, such as temporalis, with associated tension and pain symptoms.
This is a theoretical sequence, who knows how your situation works.
We recognise that jaw pain can mimic many other conditions.
Tooth pain > joint pain > head pain > neck pain > shoulder pain etc etc
Yeah, almost certainly bruxism - hard splint like an Nti should work wonders. A descent practioner should be able to sort you out, few tests like a stress test will determine if the joint itself is fundemtnaly healthy (90% cases it is), then treat the cause.
I think most are now in agreement that teeth grinding in sleep is a result of micro-arrousals in the brainstem, there is no cure for sleeping habits/patterns, so we manage the problem. The old philosophy that is was a psycho-somatic problem of the stressed is now relatively disregarded, though of course, this can excacibate the problem.
Oh and yes we are taught about TMD, infect I did my research on the matter! However, it's not a clear cut area where one answer solves all as many specialist and so called expert will have you believe - see daily mail article as usual!
I hope this helps!
I think most are now in agreement that teeth grinding in sleep is a result of micro-arrousals in the brainstem, there is no cure for sleeping habits/patterns, so we manage the problem. The old philosophy that is was a psycho-somatic problem of the stressed is now relatively disregarded, though of course, this can excacibate the problem.
Oh and yes we are taught about TMD, infect I did my research on the matter! However, it's not a clear cut area where one answer solves all as many specialist and so called expert will have you believe - see daily mail article as usual!
I hope this helps!
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