The 2024 Noteworthy Deaths Thread
Discussion
As the 2023 Celebrity RIP thread draws to a close, it’s time to prepare for 2024 with a more appropriate thread title!
Celebrities are of course still welcome, but anyone else newsworthy can be posted without fear of ‘but they’re not a celebrity!’.
Celebrities are of course still welcome, but anyone else newsworthy can be posted without fear of ‘but they’re not a celebrity!’.
SpudLink said:
It's impossible to know everyone. But the fact that you or I don't know (or care) who someone is does not mean that person's death is not worthy of note on this thread.
Edited by bristolbaron on Thursday 11th January 10:10
Mark-C said:
SpudLink said:
Seven7 said:
Blathering? Do you enjoy being condescending?
So I'm ignorant for not knowing that singers wife? You, of course, know all about her, yes?
It's impossible to know everyone. But the fact that you or I don't know (or care) who someone is does not mean that person's death is not worthy of note on this thread.So I'm ignorant for not knowing that singers wife? You, of course, know all about her, yes?
I actually find the people I know nothing about more interesting
I’ve added Spud’s comment to the first post. By the end of the month things should settle down as usual!
ninepoint2 said:
dandarez said:
True we didn't have 24/7 rolling news back in the day, but we don't have it now either - what we have today is 24/7 'repetitive' news. I guarantee something I hear on the 8 am news will be repeated through the day and again on the midnight news, unless broken with some 'breaking news'. No different when Hendrix died it was news everywhere, same as when Elvis died.
As for poor Liam, I'd heard of him and the group as a whole, One Direction ...and Harry Styles of course, yes, but at my age not my music. However, I guarantee if a month ago I'd walked the length of a street in any small town or large city and stopped passers by and said: 'Name me a pop singer whose first name is Liam?' I guarantee the majority response would be 'Gallagher'.
Liam Payne's youngish death is a tragedy. However, it's nothing new at all to those of us who have 'lived' long. The Beeb seemed to be running with it all day as if it's never happened prior, a music 'star' dying young in awful circumstances.
It's happened since day immemorial music 'stars' dying young - as said I'm old apparently but can't say I feel it. Old enough that I can clearly recall watching Hendrix - that's 'Jimi' if you're none the wiser! Surely not?
First was live in Newbury, at the Plaza, in 1967 and again in 1970 at the Isle of Wight Festival in the very small hours of Monday 31 August, the biggest crowd ever in the UK at any concert, some estimates put the attendance at 3/4 million fans, totally eclipsing the previous year's Woodstock in the USA - in fact, someone else at that 70 Isle of Wight was a young 19 yr old Paul Kossoff, guitarist with the group Free. Drug abuse would see he had only a few years more: dead at just 25. See, nothing new.
Hendrix didn't get much chance to play any more gigs because just over a fortnight after the Isle of Wight Festival he was found dead in his London flat - all the news media 'radio' and 'newspapers' here and abroad were full of 'drug riddled' (see, I repeat, nothing changes - as I've pointed out above they tell you that today we have '24 Hour News', we don't, what we have is '24 Hour 'REPETITIVE' News' - but in reality, Hendrix, like Liam, had girl problems and alleged drug usage, although not totally proved totally conclusive it was agreed that an excess of sleeping pills and vomit that finished him off).
The difference back then was when he died, oldies also knew who Hendrix was, just like they knew who Jim Morrison of the Doors was, who Janis Joplin was etc, even if they didn't listen, like nor agree with their music. They'd know who Bolan was too, tragic again at only 29, but a car accident of which there was national coverage on tv, radio, and papers.
Today many people apart from fans, wouldn't have had a clue who Liam Payne was. I did, but that's because I'm interested in the overall music scene and always have been.
Talking about a 'young life' there were many others in the infamous '27 Club' (the age they died), eg: Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Brian Jones of the Stones, Alan (Blind Owl) Wilson (you might need to look him up), and others. Then of course the big lady from the USA, Mama Cass Elliot of the Mamas & Papas, who again also died while in London - she was only a year older than Liam at just 32.
John Lennon is mentioned. He was murdered at around 4am UK time so even without 24 hr or rolling news fans didn't find out until the next morning at the earlier, but you'd have had to been up very early to find out even if there was.
That one sticks with me. I was approaching 30 yrs of age. I'd just been rushing my breakfast getting ready for work that cold Dec morning, a 21 mile drive. As I shouted upstairs 'See you later' to my wife, 'Woman' being played on the radio in the dining room as I gulped down my cuppa. I'd switched it on as I always did first thing if I was up first. I'd bought Lennon and Yoko's 'Double Fantasy' LP only a week prior. I liked Lennon but was never a hardened Beatles fan, although I'd been lucky enough to be in the capital in Jan 1969 when all four and Billy Preston played live on the rooftop in Saville Row. That was sheer luck, I was an apprentice at the time and been sent to London on a day course. It finished early and wandering back to catch the tube I heard the music and headed there to stand and listen - sadly no mobile phones then, if only.
Back to my drive to work. I was working on the Oxford Uni circuit at the time, it was vacation so no students around, only some staff and technicians. I parked up, walked in and as I approached my area I heard crying and sobbing. I wondered wtf was going on? As I opened some double doors, it was one of the couple of young (20s) female technicians who was sobbing her heart out - she said 'have you heard the terrible news?' I asked 'What terrible news?' She was a totally devoted John Lennon fan. That was exactly the moment I found out Lennon had been murdered, and realised it was probably the reason 'Woman' was being played on the radio as I left home.
Oh, and not forgetting the other '27 yr old' who was never confirmed as dead but must be. Disappeared in the 90s, never found:
The Manics' Richy Edwards.
It's nothing new, and will continue like night follows day.
I'm also old, however my take on your post is this, each and every one of those you mentioned worked their way to where they were with sheer talent and ability. 1D were a manufactured unit which the slimy Simon Cowell recognised might make him a "few bob ". The reality was they appealed to 12 year olds and for whatever reason spilt up which meant instead of one very average single you've got multiples from a band who let's face it are never going to be remembered in the same way as those you mention. Sad that a young lad wasted his life and suffered the demise he did, but he was never going to be in any way worthy of inclusion along side any of the musicians you remarked onAs for poor Liam, I'd heard of him and the group as a whole, One Direction ...and Harry Styles of course, yes, but at my age not my music. However, I guarantee if a month ago I'd walked the length of a street in any small town or large city and stopped passers by and said: 'Name me a pop singer whose first name is Liam?' I guarantee the majority response would be 'Gallagher'.
Liam Payne's youngish death is a tragedy. However, it's nothing new at all to those of us who have 'lived' long. The Beeb seemed to be running with it all day as if it's never happened prior, a music 'star' dying young in awful circumstances.
It's happened since day immemorial music 'stars' dying young - as said I'm old apparently but can't say I feel it. Old enough that I can clearly recall watching Hendrix - that's 'Jimi' if you're none the wiser! Surely not?
First was live in Newbury, at the Plaza, in 1967 and again in 1970 at the Isle of Wight Festival in the very small hours of Monday 31 August, the biggest crowd ever in the UK at any concert, some estimates put the attendance at 3/4 million fans, totally eclipsing the previous year's Woodstock in the USA - in fact, someone else at that 70 Isle of Wight was a young 19 yr old Paul Kossoff, guitarist with the group Free. Drug abuse would see he had only a few years more: dead at just 25. See, nothing new.
Hendrix didn't get much chance to play any more gigs because just over a fortnight after the Isle of Wight Festival he was found dead in his London flat - all the news media 'radio' and 'newspapers' here and abroad were full of 'drug riddled' (see, I repeat, nothing changes - as I've pointed out above they tell you that today we have '24 Hour News', we don't, what we have is '24 Hour 'REPETITIVE' News' - but in reality, Hendrix, like Liam, had girl problems and alleged drug usage, although not totally proved totally conclusive it was agreed that an excess of sleeping pills and vomit that finished him off).
The difference back then was when he died, oldies also knew who Hendrix was, just like they knew who Jim Morrison of the Doors was, who Janis Joplin was etc, even if they didn't listen, like nor agree with their music. They'd know who Bolan was too, tragic again at only 29, but a car accident of which there was national coverage on tv, radio, and papers.
Today many people apart from fans, wouldn't have had a clue who Liam Payne was. I did, but that's because I'm interested in the overall music scene and always have been.
Talking about a 'young life' there were many others in the infamous '27 Club' (the age they died), eg: Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Brian Jones of the Stones, Alan (Blind Owl) Wilson (you might need to look him up), and others. Then of course the big lady from the USA, Mama Cass Elliot of the Mamas & Papas, who again also died while in London - she was only a year older than Liam at just 32.
John Lennon is mentioned. He was murdered at around 4am UK time so even without 24 hr or rolling news fans didn't find out until the next morning at the earlier, but you'd have had to been up very early to find out even if there was.
That one sticks with me. I was approaching 30 yrs of age. I'd just been rushing my breakfast getting ready for work that cold Dec morning, a 21 mile drive. As I shouted upstairs 'See you later' to my wife, 'Woman' being played on the radio in the dining room as I gulped down my cuppa. I'd switched it on as I always did first thing if I was up first. I'd bought Lennon and Yoko's 'Double Fantasy' LP only a week prior. I liked Lennon but was never a hardened Beatles fan, although I'd been lucky enough to be in the capital in Jan 1969 when all four and Billy Preston played live on the rooftop in Saville Row. That was sheer luck, I was an apprentice at the time and been sent to London on a day course. It finished early and wandering back to catch the tube I heard the music and headed there to stand and listen - sadly no mobile phones then, if only.
Back to my drive to work. I was working on the Oxford Uni circuit at the time, it was vacation so no students around, only some staff and technicians. I parked up, walked in and as I approached my area I heard crying and sobbing. I wondered wtf was going on? As I opened some double doors, it was one of the couple of young (20s) female technicians who was sobbing her heart out - she said 'have you heard the terrible news?' I asked 'What terrible news?' She was a totally devoted John Lennon fan. That was exactly the moment I found out Lennon had been murdered, and realised it was probably the reason 'Woman' was being played on the radio as I left home.
Oh, and not forgetting the other '27 yr old' who was never confirmed as dead but must be. Disappeared in the 90s, never found:
The Manics' Richy Edwards.
It's nothing new, and will continue like night follows day.
Porsche-worm said:
ajprice said:
Janne Puhakka, 29. Finnish pro ice hockey player and the first Finnish player to come out as gay. He was shot by his ex partner. He was a finalist in the Finnish version of The Traitors reality TV show, the final was due to air this week and has now been delayed. The ex partner is in custody, charged with murder.
https://www.joe.co.uk/entertainment/finnish-versio...
The thread title is noteworthy deaths, soon we'll have people saying there nan died.https://www.joe.co.uk/entertainment/finnish-versio...
bristolbaron said:
Celebrities are of course still welcome, but anyone else newsworthy can be posted without fear of ‘but they’re not a celebrity!’.
SpudLink said:
It's impossible to know everyone. But the fact that you or I don't know (or care) who someone is does not mean that person's death is not worthy of note on this thread.
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