Science, invention and engineering!

Science, invention and engineering!

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daveparry

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988 posts

215 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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How come there are no "famous" African clever clogs? the likes of Newton, Darwin, Watt etc! just a simple question with NO racial undertones intended!

Scottish_ninja

370 posts

201 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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Surely just a matter of schooling.

GadgeS3C

4,522 posts

179 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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A quick look at the source of all true facts (wikipedia!) suggests there are some clever African American clever clogs...


African American inventors have created many widely used devices in the world and have contributed to international innovation. Norbert Rillieux created the technique for converting sugar cane juice into white sugar crystals. Moreover, Rillieux left Louisiana in 1854 and went to France, where he spent ten years working with the Champollions deciphering Egyptian hieroglyphics from the Rosetta Stone. Most slave inventors were nameless, such as the slave owned by the Confederate President Jefferson Davis who designed the ship propeller used by the Confederate navy.


By 1913 over 1,000 inventions were patented by black Americans. Among the most notable inventors were Jan Matzeliger, who developed the first machine to mass-produce shoes, and Elijah McCoy, who invented automatic lubrication devices for steam engines. Granville Woods had 35 patents to improve electric railway systems, including the first system to allow moving trains to communicate. Garrett A. Morgan developed the first automatic traffic signal and gas mask.[125]

Lewis Howard Latimer invented an improvement for the incandescent light bulb.[126] More recent inventors include McKinley Jones, who invented the movable refrigeration unit for food transport in trucks and trains. Lloyd Quarterman worked with six other black scientists on the creation of the atomic bomb (code named the Manhattan Project.) Quarterman also helped develop the first nuclear reactor, which was used in the atomically powered submarine called the Nautilus.[125]

A few other notable examples include the first successful open heart surgery, performed by Dr. Daniel Hale Williams, the air conditioner, patented by Frederick McKinley Jones. Dr. Mark Dean holds three of the original nine patents on the computer on which all PCs are based. More current contributors include Otis Boykin, whose inventions included several novel methods for manufacturing electrical components that found use in applications such as guided missile systems and computers, and Colonel Frederick Gregory, who was not only the first black astronaut pilot but the person who redesigned the cockpits for the last three space shuttles. Gregory was also on the team that pioneered the microwave instrumentation landing system. In 2000, Bendix Aircraft Company began a worldwide promotion of this microwave instrumentation landing system.[125]


Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

203 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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dibbers006 said:
I would imagine that a lot of the African Continents genius type inventive moments came at a time before global data logging and record keeping and that since such historical fact entry has been established a lot of the more widely taught breakthroughs are more political than representitive.

In the way weather shows the 'hottest day since records began' and all Inventions are actually Scottish wink
That and the white man patented the slaves contraptions.

We weren't very nice to the indiginous peoples throughout the empire.

MuffDaddy

1,458 posts

220 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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dibbers006 said:
War of course also pushes innovation.
I met Will Whitehorn of Virgin Galactic recently. He attributes most innovation in the last 20 years to either war or porn. He stated that the flat screen was developed for use in the challenger tank and it was only when Quinetic (?) was privatised and they looked in to the IP that they discovered these things might make nice TVs.

Ross1988

1,234 posts

198 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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MuffDaddy said:
dibbers006 said:
War of course also pushes innovation.
I met Will Whitehorn of Virgin Galactic recently. He attributes most innovation in the last 20 years to either war or porn. He stated that the flat screen was developed for use in the challenger tank and it was only when Quinetic (?) was privatised and they looked in to the IP that they discovered these things might make nice TVs.
Same can be said for medical history, most of the leaps and bounds came from times of war, one of the top of my head would be Florence Nightingale and the invention of superglue.




daveparry

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988 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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I am liking this thread, very informative thank you all.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

224 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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It's simple, if you can live a good enough life with everything you need what more do you need? Inventors and innovators have a that's not good enough attitude to things.

JuniorD

9,013 posts

238 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Back in the day science was the sport and pasttime of the weathly middle and upper classes. The poor, women and the spear chuckers had far more important things to do like basic survival, work and slaving for the afforementioned idle gentry. Hence athe white boys in top hats making scientific discoveries.

JB!

5,255 posts

195 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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MuffDaddy said:
dibbers006 said:
War of course also pushes innovation.
I met Will Whitehorn of Virgin Galactic recently. He attributes most innovation in the last 20 years to either war or porn. He stated that the flat screen was developed for use in the challenger tank and it was only when Quinetic (?) was privatised and they looked in to the IP that they discovered these things might make nice TVs.
Necessity is the mother on invention, an the desire to beat your enemy is alot of fuel for this fire, for example...

1914,British pilots and co-pilots shooting at the enemy with hand guns.

1944/5, German pilots flying jets.

30 years, and a massive leap in development, jet engines, swept wings...

Maxf

8,434 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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If you go back far enough, then I guess African fellows invented stuff like banging rocks together to make fire, living under cover, cooking... you know - immaterial stuff like that wink

plg

4,106 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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JB! said:
MuffDaddy said:
dibbers006 said:
War of course also pushes innovation.
I met Will Whitehorn of Virgin Galactic recently. He attributes most innovation in the last 20 years to either war or porn. He stated that the flat screen was developed for use in the challenger tank and it was only when Quinetic (?) was privatised and they looked in to the IP that they discovered these things might make nice TVs.
Necessity is the mother on invention, an the desire to beat your enemy is alot of fuel for this fire, for example...

1914,British pilots and co-pilots shooting at the enemy with hand guns.

1944/5, German pilots flying jets.

30 years, and a massive leap in development, jet engines, swept wings...
Er, yes and know.

Qinetiq have some amazing IPR. The original gov department developed radar around the Malvern hills (I think).

But as for them holding LCD concepts, well, they planned privitisation from 2000-2002 and completed it in 2006, and LCD TVs were about for a while already... they do hold some wierd and wonderful other things though, and some very very nice toys.