Tracing a complex family tree where do I start

Tracing a complex family tree where do I start

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Coco H

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4,237 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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I have had the hideously odd task of sorting thorugh the remains of my grandmothers life - she only left a few photos and that was it. We never knew her:

She was a nurse working in liverpool during the war and had an affair with a doctor. My father was born just after the war. Her father was a vicar and hence she was sent away to have the baby in Essex. My father was adopted twice. A vicar friend of hers traced my father a few years before she died.

She said she never had anymore children as none could replace the one she was fored to give up. I think she married 3 times - I have photos of 2 weddings. One should be easy to trace as I have the mans first name, the date and the photos show liverpool registry office. But where do I get the info?

I would like to find out more about her father. I do have his full name and his ordination certificate. I dont know when he was born, married or died. Where to start?

Lastly I suppose it would be interesting to know who my father's real father was. He has a very unusual name and was from the Isle of Man. I doubt there was more than one doctor with that name in the liverpool hospital.

esselte

14,626 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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COuld you get a copy of your Father's bith certificate? Would it say on there who his biological father was?

Coco H

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4,237 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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It doesn't sadly. His mother told my sister and I who it was. But it would be nice to confirm such an individiual was a dr in the hospital at that time.

I have made some progress as I know that my great-grandfather was made a cannon and dies in 1978. I also know which church he was vicar of during the war.

threesixty

2,068 posts

215 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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society of genealogy?

Try the BBC's who do you think you are website, the show was fairly recent, lots of resources and services for people wanting to trace familty trees there.

NickyTwoHats

2,093 posts

253 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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UK Census on line...

esselte

14,626 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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NickyTwoHats said:
UK Census on line...
The latest one available is 1901 I think....

jbswagger

839 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Coco H said:
I have had the hideously odd task of sorting thorugh the remains of my grandmothers life - she only left a few photos and that was it. We never knew her:

She was a nurse working in liverpool during the war and had an affair with a doctor. My father was born just after the war. Her father was a vicar and hence she was sent away to have the baby in Essex. My father was adopted twice. A vicar friend of hers traced my father a few years before she died.

She said she never had anymore children as none could replace the one she was fored to give up. I think she married 3 times - I have photos of 2 weddings. One should be easy to trace as I have the mans first name, the date and the photos show liverpool registry office. But where do I get the info?

I would like to find out more about her father. I do have his full name and his ordination certificate. I dont know when he was born, married or died. Where to start?

Lastly I suppose it would be interesting to know who my father's real father was. He has a very unusual name and was from the Isle of Man. I doubt there was more than one doctor with that name in the liverpool hospital.
I used to do this for a job!

If you want to get a specific marriage certificate you can write to the register office where the marrigage took place telling them the names of at least one of the parties and the date it took place.

If you have your grandmothers fathers name(great grandfathers) you can search the Isle of Man civil birth, marriage and death indexes but you may have to go to there or a local Mormon Libray may be able to help. If you think he may have got married or died in England and Wales you can also search those indexes online if you have a subscription. Central libraries normally have a microfiche copy of the indexes for free.

jbswagger

839 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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esselte said:
NickyTwoHats said:
UK Census on line...
The latest one available is 1901 I think....
1911 is partly availiable now.

OzzyR1

6,027 posts

244 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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You could try joining this place:

http://www.familytreeforum.com/wiki/index.php/Welc...


Its actually run by an old friend of mine who is seriously into geneology. Not my sort of bag as I've never felt the need to do anything like that but I've looked around the forums out of curiosity and they seem to be a very helpful bunch when giving beginners pointers on where to start.


Simpo Two

88,424 posts

277 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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jbswagger said:
1911 is partly availiable now.
I got an e-mail from them/it today:

1911 census said:
England now complete

The complete counties of Northumberland, Cumberland and Westmorland, which comprise 443,204 new records, are now live on 1911census.co.uk. In addition, the Gateshead data, which comprises 84,195 new records, has now been added to Durham. This means that the whole of England is now online and searchable.

The Welsh counties will be added soon.

Find your ancestors in the 1911 census today

For the latest news and updates visit the 1911census.co.uk blog.

Best of luck with all your research,

The 1911census.co.uk team
NB: I must try to read more slowly - I thought the OP said: 'I have had the hideously odd task of sorting thorugh the remains of my grandmothers life - she only left a few potatoes and that was it.'

Edited by Simpo Two on Thursday 9th April 16:55

cymtriks

4,561 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Good luck, you might find all sorsts of uncles and aunts you never knew you had.

My dad was in a similar situation to you. He thought that his family had died in the war. Then he found out by chance that his mother was still alive. For a long time he avoided asking about his dad as he assumed that it would upset her but then, again by chance, he found out that his father had survived the war. He traced his father and finally a large number of half bothers and sisters.

AJS-

15,366 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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I usually start from the person I would like to be related to and go back to before they were rich/famous/hereditary peers and then fill in the tenuous links from there.

cymtriks

4,561 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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AJS- said:
I usually start from the person I would like to be related to and go back to before they were rich/famous/hereditary peers and then fill in the tenuous links from there.
One of my wifes ancestors claimed to be related to just about every significant person in history.

Various branches of the tree go:
Back to a relative of William the conqueror (probably true)
Back to Brutus, then to Priam of Troy (probably not true)

That made her a relative of all the Kings and Queens of England for the last two or three thousand years or so! If you believed it that is, some of the links are supported by history but others were just claims of descent with no evidence whatsoever.

Swilly

9,699 posts

286 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Coco H said:
....lots of stuff.... Where to start?
scratchchin With yourself of course....

NDA

22,945 posts

237 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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You should be able to work back from the 1911 census - if her family had a moderately odd surname, it's relatively (ho ho) straightforward.

The census will probably show her as part of a (her) family and who her parents were.... you can keep going back every ten years to 1841.