How Long Before We Lose a Grip on What's Real?
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Wanted to put this in the The Lounge rather than it dying in a computer sub-forum:
Just seen a clip that was generated entirely by AI, and have to say it's kind of disturbing (if that's the right word) how realistic it is.
Which leads me to ask, how long before we start wondering what we see with our own eyes is real or not?
The technology is only improving and very quickly and getting easier to use.
The AI car-show:
https://x.com/laszlogaal_/status/19250943362005732...
/Tinfoil hat
Just seen a clip that was generated entirely by AI, and have to say it's kind of disturbing (if that's the right word) how realistic it is.
Which leads me to ask, how long before we start wondering what we see with our own eyes is real or not?
The technology is only improving and very quickly and getting easier to use.
The AI car-show:
https://x.com/laszlogaal_/status/19250943362005732...
/Tinfoil hat
I have seen the latest thing is to upload old photos and AI will turn them into video. Its not perfect, but if you get the right photo and the algo likes it the results can be very impressive. I tried to do it myself the other day but needed a subscription so will wait for a free version which no doubt will come along.
I don't believe anything I see anymore, it's pervaded everything.
Even something as mundane as someone showing off their allotment is now an AI enhanced click bait image.
They're quickly becoming harder to spot too, I think it's months rather than years before they're indistinguishable from the real thing.
Even something as mundane as someone showing off their allotment is now an AI enhanced click bait image.
They're quickly becoming harder to spot too, I think it's months rather than years before they're indistinguishable from the real thing.
vixen1700 said:
Doofus said:
The chap with the Hels Algels patch gives it away.
There are minor things like that, but had you not known, would you have picked up that it was entirely unreal? These minor things will be tweaked and quickly.
Banking, media and politics aren't human institutions any more. They're driven by algorithms, optimised for control rather than service. The faces change- Trump, Farage, Boris, Starmer, but the script stays the same. These aren't leaders. They're actors performing roles written by learning machines that adapt in real time.
Take BlackRock’s Aladdin. It watches over more than $20 trillion in assets, quietly influencing markets through predictive modelling and risk management. Then there’s Palantir, embedded deep within governments and security systems, using data to anticipate behaviour before it happens. Or DeepMind, mastering everything from protein folding to long-term planning.
That same logic- pattern recognition, behavioural manipulation, emotionless optimisation, is now mirrored in politics. When your most liked or most hated politician says something stupid, it’s rarely a mistake. It’s engagement. These statements are designed to provoke, to divide, to drive clicks. Outrage is currency. Substance doesn't matter.
Take BlackRock’s Aladdin. It watches over more than $20 trillion in assets, quietly influencing markets through predictive modelling and risk management. Then there’s Palantir, embedded deep within governments and security systems, using data to anticipate behaviour before it happens. Or DeepMind, mastering everything from protein folding to long-term planning.
That same logic- pattern recognition, behavioural manipulation, emotionless optimisation, is now mirrored in politics. When your most liked or most hated politician says something stupid, it’s rarely a mistake. It’s engagement. These statements are designed to provoke, to divide, to drive clicks. Outrage is currency. Substance doesn't matter.
Have you seen these AI videos, some of them are incredible, funny too -
https://youtube.com/@hatim1987?si=It3RFGdLTNveDtab
https://youtube.com/@hatim1987?si=It3RFGdLTNveDtab
The issue dates back to the first time an event was described or portrayed by an eyewitness to someone who wasn't there. For all we know, those cave paintings depicting attacks on large, fleeing animals may actually be depiciting an event where the animal was dead already, or already injured. AI is just another tool in the illusion creator's toolbox. It just leaves less is left to the viewer's imagination.
I was at a technology event this week. The presenters played two clips. One was the actual performance of the French song at the recent Eurovision contest. The other something pulled together by AI (using the same words). We were asked to vote on which one we thought was real. It was pretty much 50/50. Both were awful though!
The scary thing about how advanced AI is how soon we will have deepfakes that aren't distinguishable as AI.
Imagine the civil unrest that could be caused by say, Starmer being televised / broadcast on the internet telling everyone that we are at war with Russia and we should rush out and get supplies before the incoming nukes start dropping?
Pasta and bogroll would be the 1st casualties of war
Imagine the civil unrest that could be caused by say, Starmer being televised / broadcast on the internet telling everyone that we are at war with Russia and we should rush out and get supplies before the incoming nukes start dropping?
Pasta and bogroll would be the 1st casualties of war
STe_rsv4 said:
The scary thing about how advanced AI is how soon we will have deepfakes that aren't distinguishable as AI.
Imagine the civil unrest that could be caused by say, Starmer being televised / broadcast on the internet telling everyone that we are at war with Russia and we should rush out and get supplies before the incoming nukes start dropping?
Pasta and bogroll would be the 1st casualties of war
The manipulation of people through news/social media and the immense scope of it was the first thing I thought of. Imagine the civil unrest that could be caused by say, Starmer being televised / broadcast on the internet telling everyone that we are at war with Russia and we should rush out and get supplies before the incoming nukes start dropping?
Pasta and bogroll would be the 1st casualties of war
https://x.com/wizardingnews/status/192505924359965...
STe_rsv4 said:
The scary thing about how advanced AI is how soon we will have deepfakes that aren't distinguishable as AI.
Imagine the civil unrest that could be caused by say, Starmer being televised / broadcast on the internet telling everyone that we are at war with Russia and we should rush out and get supplies before the incoming nukes start dropping?
Pasta and bogroll would be the 1st casualties of war
What’s interesting (and maybe a bit unsettling) is that AI-generated content can now mimic reality so convincingly that it’s harder than ever to distinguish fact from fiction. At least with a cave painting, you knew it was a symbolic representation. With AI, the line blurs completely, and as you said, imagination might start to take a back seat to convincing illusions.Imagine the civil unrest that could be caused by say, Starmer being televised / broadcast on the internet telling everyone that we are at war with Russia and we should rush out and get supplies before the incoming nukes start dropping?
Pasta and bogroll would be the 1st casualties of war
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