Correct way of writing out Indian name

Correct way of writing out Indian name

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boyse7en

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7,416 posts

177 months

Monday 20th January
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Looking for a bit of help so I don't muck this up.

I'm writing an article involving an Indian guy and I'm not sure how to write his name properly.

When writing British names, we use name in full in the first instance, then use only the surname in later references:
"Joe Watson is a great asset to CorpTech. Since Watson joined the company he ..."

So how should i do it for someone called Khasim Meera Sheik? For a start, sometimes on social media he is referred to as Khasim Meera, so is "Sheik" a title or qualification or similar, and not part of his name?

Which would be right/better?

A: Khasim Meera Sheik is a great asset to CorpTech. Since Sheik joined the company he...
B: Khasim Meera is a great asset to CorpTech. Since Meera joined the company he....
C: Khasim Meera is a great asset to CorpTech. Since Khasim joined the company he....

marksx

5,136 posts

202 months

Monday 20th January
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I work for an Indian company and closely with Indian colleagues. It can be confusing.

How does he refer to himself in communications?

Edit - I'd be inclined A. Rarely are the first names used, though it varies.

konark

1,182 posts

131 months

Monday 20th January
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Just use 'he'.

essayer

10,037 posts

206 months

Monday 20th January
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konark said:
Just use 'he'.
assuming pronouns?? eek

I struggle with this too. How about "KMS" (although Gen Z may regard that as a troubling acronym)

Cotty

40,947 posts

296 months

Monday 20th January
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Having dealt with an Indian office for years they don't seem too bothered either way.
They will refer to John Smith as Mr John without questioning it. Im sure which ever version you choose the thought behind it outweighs mix up.

bristolbaron

5,227 posts

224 months

Monday 20th January
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Do you both work for the company? Can’t you call him and check how he’d prefer it written?

boyse7en

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7,416 posts

177 months

Monday 20th January
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bristolbaron said:
Do you both work for the company? Can’t you call him and check how he’d prefer it written?
No, I'm just the writer for a report he is mentioned in. I don't know the guy at all, just don't want to misname him.

The "sheik" bit confused me too, as obviously it is a title in arabic names, but I've never seen it in an Indian name before and don't know whether it is a title, a name, or a miscommunication.

shirt

24,008 posts

213 months

Monday 20th January
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you're better off just asking him.

there is so much variation between regions and religions and that's before personal preference comes in. some who reject the caste system will not use their family name for example.

my OH, who rejects the caste system, does something completely different, but at least has the good sense to have her linkedin in the format by which she wants to be addressed.

shirt

24,008 posts

213 months

Monday 20th January
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boyse7en said:
No, I'm just the writer for a report he is mentioned in. I don't know the guy at all, just don't want to misname him.

The "sheik" bit confused me too, as obviously it is a title in arabic names, but I've never seen it in an Indian name before and don't know whether it is a title, a name, or a miscommunication.
its a title that became a name. like smith or miller. still a fair few about in the north.

he's not very googleable is he, which does suggest he doesn't go by that moniker.

Cotty

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296 months

Monday 20th January
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shirt said:
you're better off just asking him.

there is so much variation between regions and religions and that's before personal preference comes in. some who reject the caste system will not use their family name for example.

my OH, who rejects the caste system, does something completely different, but at least has the good sense to have her linkedin in the format by which she wants to be addressed.
I can't believe that in this day and age they are still dicking about with the caste system.

shirt

24,008 posts

213 months

Monday 20th January
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st like that takes generations to die out even when the opposing view is the majority.

Debatable whether it even is the majority view.

It’s also an excellent tool for divide and rule politics.

gotoPzero

18,796 posts

201 months

Monday 20th January
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D
Khasim Meera Sheik is a great asset to CorpTech. Since Khasim joined the company he....

Also the surname is a generalisation - if its not one you made up - to signify that he is Muslim.
Aka ethnic surname. Very common. Although its (maybe) missing the h off the end, but again thats common and many variations anyway.

So I would not use it in isolation like Smith for example.

Its not likely you will upset an Indian by using their name "wrong". Lots and lots of Indians don't even use their real names.

Just my 2 paisas....


Countdown

43,637 posts

208 months

Monday 20th January
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Out of the 3 you’ve suggested (C) is the most appropriate. Gotoprozero’s suggestion is also fine.


Simon_GH

654 posts

92 months

Monday 20th January
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essayer said:
assuming pronouns?? eek

I struggle with this too. How about "KMS" (although Gen Z may regard that as a troubling acronym)
Replace “he” with “they” and you’ll be safe.

Cupid-stunt

3,027 posts

68 months

Monday 20th January
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boyse7en said:
Which would be right/better?

A: Khasim Meera Sheik is a great asset to CorpTech. Since Sheik joined the company he...
B: Khasim Meera is a great asset to CorpTech. Since Meera joined the company he....
C: Khasim Meera is a great asset to CorpTech. Since Khasim joined the company he....
I'd go with C to be safe - that is his given first name.

(of Indian heritage and annoys me when people address an email to me using my surname (without a prefix).
I've even got my name on the footer of a mail....

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Monday 20th January
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shirt said:
st like that takes generations to die out even when the opposing view is the majority.

Debatable whether it even is the majority view.

It’s also an excellent tool for divide and rule politics.
Like any other systemic advantage those who benefit from it will probably deny any advantage exists whilst doing everything they can to ensure the status quo remains.


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Cupid-stunt said:
I'd go with C to be safe - that is his given first name.

(of Indian heritage and annoys me when people address an email to me using my surname (without a prefix).
I've even got my name on the footer of a mail....
I get exactly the same - as you probably know it's because Outlook (for some unknown reason) swicthes the first name and surname around on the email header.

I used to work with a girl called Claire Hannah. She'd go ballistic if somebody emailed back calling her Hannah biggrin

DP14

345 posts

51 months

Monday 20th January
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Cotty said:
I can't believe that in this day and age they are still dicking about with the caste system.
Why not? The UK is still dicking about with the class system and other linked discrimination e.g. accents happen to be in the news today - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyjdyj729ro

Cotty

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296 months

Monday 20th January
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DP14 said:
Cotty said:
I can't believe that in this day and age they are still dicking about with the caste system.
Why not? The UK is still dicking about with the class system and other linked discrimination e.g. accents happen to be in the news today - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyjdyj729ro
If you think accents is comparable to the caste system I .. I .. I can't even ....

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DP14 said:
Cotty said:
I can't believe that in this day and age they are still dicking about with the caste system.
Why not? The UK is still dicking about with the class system and other linked discrimination e.g. accents happen to be in the news today - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyjdyj729ro
It’s unlikely that somebody would get killed in the UK because they were dating someone of a different social status or a different accent.