What happens if someone dies with no money

What happens if someone dies with no money

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The Gauge

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3,175 posts

20 months

Tuesday 10th September
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Who pays for a funeral when someone dies with no money?

My wife has just found out her step brother passed away very recently, he lived in sheltered housing having been a drug, drink and gambling addict so he had no money and no assets. My wife never had anything to do with him and doesn't really know him. She has no desire to contribute to, attend or have any involvement in any funeral arrangements.

So who picks up the bill for a funeral in these circumstances? Do Public Health Funerals exist for these occasions, with the local authority picking up any funeral costs?

Mr_J

425 posts

54 months

Tuesday 10th September
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I think the term is a paupers funeral.

Or more accurately a public health funeral - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health_fune...

Edited by Mr_J on Tuesday 10th September 21:24

BunkMoreland

1,012 posts

14 months

Tuesday 10th September
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The Gauge said:
Who pays for a funeral when someone dies with no money?

My wife has just found out her step brother passed away very recently, he lived in sheltered housing having been a drug, drink and gambling addict so he had no money and no assets. My wife never had anything to do with him and doesn't really know him. She has no desire to contribute to, attend or have any involvement in any funeral arrangements.

So who picks up the bill for a funeral in these circumstances? Do Public Health Funerals exist for these occasions, with the local authority picking up any funeral costs?
Would she have been happy to contribute to those costs if he had been worth £20 million? hehe

The Gauge

Original Poster:

3,175 posts

20 months

Tuesday 10th September
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BunkMoreland said:
Would she have been happy to contribute to those costs if he had been worth £20 million? hehe
I'm sure she would biggrin but then there wouldn't be any requirement for anyone to contribute.

CammyN

238 posts

6 months

Wednesday 11th September
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I believe that the Local Authority pays for a funeral when there is no estate and no relatives.

I don't know if it it still the case but a Council employee used to attend the funeral for the sake of at least one person attending,

djcube

428 posts

77 months

Wednesday 11th September
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There's a book called "Ashes to Admin" by Evie King. She was (is?) a council funeral officer. She writes about the various scenarios that she has had to deal with in the job. From memory, a similar case to the OP's was written about.

ARHarh

4,276 posts

114 months

Ari

19,522 posts

222 months

Wednesday 11th September
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BunkMoreland said:
Would she have been happy to contribute to those costs if he had been worth £20 million? hehe
Ooh this looks like a fun game.

What if he was a space alien?

What if he had two heads?

Must be loads of things he's not that we could ask 'what if he were?' coffee

glenrobbo

36,543 posts

157 months

Wednesday 11th September
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They win, because there is no inheritance tax due on their estate.

zb

2,978 posts

171 months

Wednesday 11th September
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I heard about a similar case a few weeks ago, old school friend of my mum, her boyfriend got put in a home, alzheimer's related iirc. Died, no dependants or next of kin, my mum's friend seemingly didn't count. Council cremated him, don't think my mum's friend even got the ashes. She was a bit shocked tbh.

Dynamic Space Wizard

940 posts

111 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Ari said:
BunkMoreland said:
Would she have been happy to contribute to those costs if he had been worth £20 million? hehe
Ooh this looks like a fun game.

What if he was a space alien?

What if he had two heads?

Must be loads of things he's not that we could ask 'what if he were?' coffee
If he had stayed alive and won £300 million would she have been happy to receive £20 million from him as a gift?

Tango13

8,918 posts

183 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Ari said:
BunkMoreland said:
Would she have been happy to contribute to those costs if he had been worth £20 million? hehe
Ooh this looks like a fun game.

What if he was a space alien?

What if he had two heads?

Must be loads of things he's not that we could ask 'what if he were?' coffee
Space alien = lead coffin out in Area 51

Two heads = a coffin that's a bloody awkward shape to carry

My turn...

What if he had been partially eaten by cannibals?


ARHarh

4,276 posts

114 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Tango13 said:
What if he had been partially eaten by cannibals?
He'd be easier to carry than the 2 headed bloke smile

Sixsixtysix

2,749 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th September
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CammyN said:
I don't know if it it still the case but a Council employee used to attend the funeral for the sake of at least one person attending,
If that's true, who is it for? Seems completely pointless.

Badda

2,892 posts

89 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Sixsixtysix said:
CammyN said:
I don't know if it it still the case but a Council employee used to attend the funeral for the sake of at least one person attending,
If that's true, who is it for? Seems completely pointless.
Sigh.

If you’re going down that route, what’s the point of the funeral at all? Just stick them in the hospital incinerator.

sinbaddio

2,443 posts

183 months

Wednesday 11th September
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The Gauge said:
Who pays for a funeral when someone dies with no money?

My wife has just found out her step brother passed away very recently, he lived in sheltered housing having been a drug, drink and gambling addict so he had no money and no assets. My wife never had anything to do with him and doesn't really know him. She has no desire to contribute to, attend or have any involvement in any funeral arrangements.

So who picks up the bill for a funeral in these circumstances? Do Public Health Funerals exist for these occasions, with the local authority picking up any funeral costs?
https://www.gov.uk/bereavement-support-payment/how-to-claim

toasty

7,771 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th September
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This is my ultimate goal, die with bugger all, having spent every last penny of my life’s savings.

My wife may not be too pleased about this though. smile

Electronicpants

2,785 posts

195 months

Wednesday 11th September
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toasty said:
This is my ultimate goal, die with bugger all, having spent every last penny of my life’s savings.

My wife may not be too pleased about this though. smile
Mines to die in my sleep peacefully, like my Grandfather, not screaming in terror knowing your going to die, like his passengers.*



  • RIP Bob Monkhouse







FredericRobinson

3,937 posts

239 months

Wednesday 11th September
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Badda said:
Sigh.

If you’re going down that route, what’s the point of the funeral at all? Just stick them in the hospital incinerator.
Yes, funerals aren’t for the dead, they’re gone, they’re for the living, if there’s no one living who wants to attend there’s no point having one

nuyorican

1,807 posts

109 months

Wednesday 11th September
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CammyN said:
I believe that the Local Authority pays for a funeral when there is no estate and no relatives
Is that right?

Must remind myself to liquidate all assets before death.

All those years of outrageous council tax. Payback time!

A pyrrhic victory perhaps. But a victory all the same.