Cycling or walking - which is more efficient?

Cycling or walking - which is more efficient?

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Mont Blanc

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1,400 posts

50 months

Friday 2nd August
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I don't know if this is Science, Health Matters, Pedal Powered... or what the heck, but here goes:

Which is the more efficient form of transport, eg, which method allows you to cover the same distance, same journey, for the least amount of energy/calories expended?

My thoughts are:

Surely humans have evolved to make walking incredibly efficient. If you cycle instead, you have the added weight of the bike to move, the added friction of moving bicycle components and the tyres on the road, and you also have a degree of wind resistance at cycling speed, which is clearly negligible at walking pace.

I get that a bicycle will greatly reduce the journey time and therefore the energy expenditure time, but surely the energy expenditure itself will be vastly increased on a bicycle?

I tried googling this, but got all kinds of different answers, mostly around burning calories for expertise. Some websites suggested that a journey on a bicycle actually saved calories vs walking, but I just can't believe that given the things I listed above about bicycle friction, added weight etc.


six wheels

363 posts

142 months

Friday 2nd August
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Have you ridden a bike?

A bicycle can freewheel. Most people cannot.

You may be overthinking this.

james0

317 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd August
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Well, you can’t freewheel when walking. If you stop walking you stop moving. Cycling, you can use momentum.

Edit:- too slow

vaud

52,333 posts

162 months

Friday 2nd August
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Cycling is way more efficient and kinder on most joints (depending on terrain)

https://pedalchile.com/blog/cycling-vs-walking

Edited by vaud on Friday 2nd August 20:31

Panamax

5,055 posts

41 months

Friday 2nd August
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They've missed the point. Are we assuming smooth tarmac or a full tilt "off road" experience?

Good luck riding any sort of bike over a freshly ploughed field!

trickywoo

12,290 posts

237 months

Friday 2nd August
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If you are even reasonably fit you can do 100 miles in a day on a bike.

Pretty much nobody is walking or running that even in a full 24 hour period.

Mont Blanc

Original Poster:

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50 months

Friday 2nd August
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six wheels said:
Have you ridden a bike?

A bicycle can freewheel. Most people cannot.

You may be overthinking this.
Yes, I do indeed own a bicycle! Rarely used, but a bicycle nonetheless. I have no doubt I am overthinking this, but it's a Friday evening and I have little else to think about.

This all started because I sometimes walk to my friends house for a few drinks, and he suggested that cycling would be less effort, and certainly faster than walking, however I wasn't sure about the 'less effort' part.

Timberwolf

5,374 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd August
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A bicycle is one of the most efficient machines we've ever devised!

Minimal drivetrain losses, light weight, low friction, and you can freewheel for ages on any flat or downhill surface. And yet you can also deliver enormous amounts of power where needed for a burst of speed.

The only place you might lose out to running or walking is going uphill, although that tends to be more arduous on a bike as you're aiming for a higher speed than walking. That said, outside of the works of M.C. Escher uphills tend to be matched by downhills at some point, and bicycles are very good at making use of all that stored-up potential energy.

Mont Blanc

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Friday 2nd August
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Panamax said:
They've missed the point. Are we assuming smooth tarmac or a full tilt "off road" experience?

Good luck riding any sort of bike over a freshly ploughed field!
Smooth tarmac. Mild changes in elevation.

Mont Blanc

Original Poster:

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Friday 2nd August
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trickywoo said:
If you are even reasonably fit you can do 100 miles in a day on a bike.

Pretty much nobody is walking or running that even in a full 24 hour period.
Yes, I know guys who go out on a Saturday and do 80-100 miles just for fun. I mean, being a lazy person, that absolutely blows my mind, but there you go.

My question was not about the ability to cover distance, it was about the calories. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly, that an ordinary person would burn say 100 calories per mile, but a cyclist would burn 120 calories per mile as they were going a lot faster, if you see what I mean.

LunarOne

5,756 posts

144 months

Friday 2nd August
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I recently learned that there is such a thing as a biological motor, but as far as I am aware nature has never found a way to make a wheel and bearings. The best it has managed is to turn the entire organism into a wheel of sorts so that those organisms can travel over land - for example tumbleweed, which is powered by the wind. Possibly various small insects such as woodlice and possibly also armadillos.

But if nature had found a way to make wheels, it probably would have, given the incredible structures like brains, eyes, ears, muscles, DNA etc that have evolved over billions of years. Of course most organisms that need to travel great distances without expending much energy have turned to either swimming or flying, so it wasn't necessary to evolve wheels.

But it's clear for many reasons that cycling is far more energy efficient than walking. I can walk about 20 miles in a day, but it will take me all day, my feet will hurt and I'll be very tired at the end of it. I can easily and casually cycle that distance in less than and hour and a half and the only ache will be my bum. The answer is clear!

Bluevanman

7,858 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd August
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Google says you'll burn more calories walking

Panamax

5,055 posts

41 months

Friday 2nd August
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Mont Blanc said:
Smooth tarmac. Mild changes in elevation.
Easy win for the bike. The physics is simple; for any biped, movement on foot involves a lot of "up and down" lifting of body weight, so it's relatively inefficient. On wheels it's horizontal only. And that's before we even contemplate the gearing a bike can bring to the party.

Watch a dog or a cheetah run, most of the energy is deployed horizontally.

If wheels didn't make sense for humans there wouldn't be so many around. I'm not quite so sure about lycra.

TUS373

4,774 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd August
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Use a car. Even more efficient. Just need to burn a few calories for breathing, arm and leg movements. Uses minimal human energy and you do 100-600 miles in a day.

HBelder

1,587 posts

27 months

Friday 2nd August
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Apparently the most efficient user of energy is a salmon.

The second most is a human on a bicycle.

LunarOne

5,756 posts

144 months

Friday 2nd August
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According to this page, a Monarch butterfly has been confirmed to travel 265 miles in one day. I would be surprised if such a tiny creature was able to use more than a few calories in a day, but I'd also be very surprised if no air mass currents (AKA wind) were involved.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/27411...

Mr E

22,122 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd August
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If you want to be really efficient, a recombinant. Preferably a faired one.

okgo

39,313 posts

205 months

Friday 2nd August
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Google says it depends on the gradient. Which makes sense I guess, walking up stairs is easy, cycling up 30% is not?

On flattish ground, bike is apparently 4-5x more efficient.

Prak

764 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd August
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In either case you're going to be breathing harder, meaning more CO2 ... PLANET MURDERER.

RJO

712 posts

278 months

Saturday 3rd August
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trickywoo said:
If you are even reasonably fit you can do 100 miles in a day on a bike.

Pretty much nobody is walking or running that even in a full 24 hour period.
Back in 1983 in the inaugural Sydney Melbourne marathon, Cliff Young at 61 years old, ran the 544 miles in 5 days 15 hours and 4 minutes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Young_(athlete...