Expensive Shoes - so uncomfortable

Expensive Shoes - so uncomfortable

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BREMBOV6

Original Poster:

510 posts

155 months

Thursday 4th July
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I bought a new pair of brogues, some 300 pound lighter.

I'm aware you need to ease them in so worn 15/20 mins on and off throughout the day then wore them to work. Crikey the pain and blisters they honestly feel too small.

Felt comfortable in the shop but had them on for 5 minutes, on a comfy carpet.

Anybody have any experience of similar shoes?

What are consumer rights if the shoes have been worn?

I have reached out to the company, they have acknowledged and hoping to hear back.

Many thanks

LimaDelta

6,949 posts

225 months

Thursday 4th July
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Are they 'fashion expensive', or 'quality expensive'? i.e. Did you pay for the name?

Baldchap

8,358 posts

99 months

Thursday 4th July
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Are they the correct size?

All my decent shoes have been all day comfortable from day one.

DannyScene

6,877 posts

162 months

Thursday 4th July
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If they feel too small they're probably too small?

BREMBOV6

Original Poster:

510 posts

155 months

Thursday 4th July
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They were Logue shoes, as far as I was aware they had a good reputation certainly not bought as fashionable.

Baldchap

8,358 posts

99 months

Thursday 4th July
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BREMBOV6 said:
They were Logue shoes, as far as I was aware they had a good reputation certainly not bought as fashionable.
Loake or Logue?

BREMBOV6

Original Poster:

510 posts

155 months

Thursday 4th July
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Loake, sorry

TownIdiot

1,575 posts

6 months

Thursday 4th July
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Loke sometimes use a particular type of leather that can be difficult to break in but you say they feel too small - this means they are too small as they won't increase in size when worn in.

Edited by TownIdiot on Thursday 4th July 10:22

Ussrcossack

644 posts

49 months

Thursday 4th July
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I've had numerous pairs of Loake over the years, always comfortable from day one
Same with a pair of Grensons too, although they tend to be a wider fit

Sorry to hear, as a tip I usually wear a thicker pair of socks when going to buy

Lotobear

7,124 posts

135 months

Thursday 4th July
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Used to buy Loakes but found the quality and sizing has dropped away signficantly in recent years.

They are all cut in India now and run up in the UK so they can be sold as 'English'. You could try having them stretched depending on where they are nipping if the seller won't take them back?

I moved to Alfred Sergent but recently heard they have gone out of business. Trickers seem to be the only 'proper' English maker left now but they are mainly brogues and I prefer a plain shoe.

LordGrover

33,693 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th July
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^^ Not entirely accurate.
They have separate, distinct ranges which vary in quality and price.
The India made shoes are still pretty good, those made elsewhere like Portugal a little better and the premium range still made in Northampton are very much better. Not top notch, but they're not top notch prices.

ecsrobin

17,822 posts

172 months

Thursday 4th July
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Currently wearing a pair of loake 1880 which are UK made. I’ve found this pair has taken a bit longer to break in than previous pairs but they’re softening up nicely.

Ryyy

1,722 posts

42 months

Thursday 4th July
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I have some loake krugers, worn a handful of times to nice do's and the occasional dancefloor and not had any bother from them smile

Lotobear

7,124 posts

135 months

Thursday 4th July
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LordGrover said:
^^ Not entirely accurate.
They have separate, distinct ranges which vary in quality and price.
The India made shoes are still pretty good, those made elsewhere like Portugal a little better and the premium range still made in Northampton are very much better. Not top notch, but they're not top notch prices.
As I understand it the leather panels for all Loakes products are cut in India, even those 'run up' in Northampton

Muzzer79

11,040 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th July
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BREMBOV6 said:
What are consumer rights if the shoes have been worn?
Generally, unless they are faulty, you will not be able to return worn items. Depends on Loake's Ts & C's though.

If they're just too small, you will have been expected to note that during the fitting process.

Edit - this from the Loake website

Loake Returns Policy said:
It is very important that items to be refunded on are returned to us in a saleable condition. They must be unworn and still in the original packaging with any labels, swing-tags, etc. still attached. We cannot accept items for return where there is wear visible – when trying footwear on, please do not crease the uppers or scratch the finish on the soles.

Ambleton

6,943 posts

199 months

Thursday 4th July
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Not sure I agree with the "shoes don't change shape".

It totally depends on the leather and construction

I have a few pairs of "made in Northampton mens formal shoes".

If these are in a stiff leather, with a stiff lining and a stiff sole then they could take up to a month to break in. You'll need to wear them for about a day at a time. Give the leather a chance to warm up fully and crease and move as required. You can buy "leather stretch" spray which is good too and will speed up the process. If the last is the right shape and they're the right size then they will get considerably more comfy with time.

On the other hand I have a pair of double monks in an unlined calf with a tensile leather sole and they're incredibly supple. They're like a slipper (even from day one) and have stretched a fair bit and I've moved a buckle hole down and with a very slightly thicker sock. Due to the sole construction though they need resoling more frequently.

Id say don't give up.... Yet.

CooperS

4,540 posts

226 months

Thursday 4th July
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I have a number of loake shoes and boots.

The cheaper lifestyle stuff (Chelsea boots) are wide enough and comfortable enough for me day one. My G size 1880 range shoes and boots does take a few proper wears to bed in.

Same as my Burkes those took the best part of 20 hours of indoor wear to bed in - now very very comfy.

ettore

4,317 posts

259 months

Thursday 4th July
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I always need to break in any 'formal' shoe. I just rely on the wonder of Compeed until they're broken-in (at which point they're super comfortable for years).

This includes Loake/Church's etc etc.

Goaty Bill 2

3,491 posts

126 months

Thursday 4th July
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Lotobear said:
LordGrover said:
^^ Not entirely accurate.
They have separate, distinct ranges which vary in quality and price.
The India made shoes are still pretty good, those made elsewhere like Portugal a little better and the premium range still made in Northampton are very much better. Not top notch, but they're not top notch prices.
As I understand it the leather panels for all Loakes products are cut in India, even those 'run up' in Northampton
I can't speak to Loake leather sourcing so I will keep shut on that point.
I was a huge fan of Loake many years back when buying plain black Oxford cap-toe for work. They stopped making the particular model and my dress style moved on as well so...
I tried a couple of pairs of their lower end shoes (allegedly made in India) when looking for a particular style but ended up with a pair of 1880s. Night and day comfort wise.

Off the top of my head; Northampton shoe makers with factories in town or in the county; Churches, Crocket & Jones, Barker, Trickers, Joseph Cheaney (Desborough), Gaziano & Girling (Kettering).

DannyScene said:
If they feel too small they're probably too small?
Sadly OP, this is likely the case.
If you can't put them on comfortably with two thin pairs of socks or a thin insole (regardless of being able to tie the laces) they are likely too small.
It also helps not to wear the same pair of shoes two days in a row. A number of reasons and explanations available but in your case, wearing them every day will only exacerbate the rubbing on any pinch points.
In any case, leather shoes should rest, ideally in shoe trees, for at least 24 hours between wearings.


Ambleton

6,943 posts

199 months

Thursday 4th July
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There's Grenson shoes in Rushden and John Lobb in Northampton too.

Probably a few others too
(and lots of small very bespoke/expensive workshops too)