What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

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Wheelbrace

70 posts

90 months

mickythefish said:
This global warming etc is just to make money off normal people.

Humans are changing the environment why not tax the companies that do it?

It makes no difference if you tax the companies or the individuals because at the end of the day it's the consumer that pays.

All that will happen is the companies will raise their prices to compensate for the extra tax they have to pass on.

mickythefish

482 posts

9 months

Wheelbrace said:

It makes no difference if you tax the companies or the individuals because at the end of the day it's the consumer that pays.

All that will happen is the companies will raise their prices to compensate for the extra tax they have to pass on.
Yes and consumers won't buy their products hence they will change their business models to adapt . Taxing people solves nothing besides just making money.

DodgyGeezer

41,113 posts

193 months

mickythefish said:
This global warming etc is just to make money off normal people.

Humans are changing the environment why not tax the companies that do it?
People who shout the loudest should wear the 'hairshirt' first (think any number of slebs & politicians who jet everywhere to warns us to reduce consumption)

Wheelbrace

70 posts

90 months

So if nobody buys anything, there will still be a need to raise a certain amount of tax.

Wonder where they will get that from?

No matter how things are arranged, the consumers pay.

Edited by Wheelbrace on Friday 5th July 09:35

mickythefish

482 posts

9 months

Wheelbrace said:
So if nobody buys anything, there will still be a need to raise a certain amount of tax.

Wonder where they will get that from?

No matter how things are arranged, the consumers pay.

Edited by Wheelbrace on Friday 5th July 09:35
Take jet fuel. It is cheaper to travel around the world than get a train 300 miles. That is messed up. And a world trying to save the planet is messed up.

Say as consumerism buying more cars to save the planet. All just stupid.

Blib

44,591 posts

200 months

mickythefish said:
Take jet fuel. It is cheaper to travel around the world than get a train 300 miles. That is messed up. And a world trying to save the planet is messed up.

Say as consumerism buying more cars to save the planet. All just stupid.
The world is not trying to save the planet.

The West is taking steps. The rest of the world don't give more than lip service. Instead, they are trying desperately to get out of grinding poverty and get what we have.

The sooner we cossetted nations realise that the better.

Blown2CV

29,272 posts

206 months

e-honda said:
If you want to go really unpopular try discussing neurodivergence / mental health and blue badges.
i think they get sunflower lanyards!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,915 posts

153 months

Blib said:
mickythefish said:
Take jet fuel. It is cheaper to travel around the world than get a train 300 miles. That is messed up. And a world trying to save the planet is messed up.

Say as consumerism buying more cars to save the planet. All just stupid.
The world is not trying to save the planet.

The West is taking steps. The rest of the world don't give more than lip service. Instead, they are trying desperately to get out of grinding poverty and get what we have.

The sooner we cossetted nations realise that the better.
Can we stop this "saving the planet" stuff. We're trying to save humanity. If we do nothing, the planet will be just fine. We'll go extinct, like 95% of species that ever lived, and we'll take many other species with us due to our negligence, but the planet will keep spinning. In a blink of an eye (a few million years or so) there'll be next to no evidence we were ever here, and other species will have taken advantage of our absence. Just like the mammals took advantage of the demise of the dinosaurs 65m years ago.

The planet doesn't need saving. If we want to help the planet, then us disappearing asap is probably a good thing.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,915 posts

153 months

paulguitar said:
Do they still have these?


I always understood a plastic tomato for tomato sauce, but what was the brown one all about? A brown tomato, for brown sauce???

Muddle238

3,956 posts

116 months

Hooped earrings in females; the diameter of the hoops are inversely proportional to the number of brain cells possessed by the wearer.


I say females, only because I've only seen them worn by females. If males wear them too, then my likely-unpopular opinion holds even more ground.

DodgyGeezer

41,113 posts

193 months

Muddle238 said:
Hooped earrings in females; the diameter of the hoops are inversely proportional to the number of brain cells possessed by the wearer.


I say females, only because I've only seen them worn by females. If males wear them too, then my likely-unpopular opinion holds even more ground.
Y'mean gypsy hoops?

Stick Legs

5,267 posts

168 months

DodgyGeezer said:
Muddle238 said:
Hooped earrings in females; the diameter of the hoops are inversely proportional to the number of brain cells possessed by the wearer.


I say females, only because I've only seen them worn by females. If males wear them too, then my likely-unpopular opinion holds even more ground.
Y'mean gypsy hoops?
Love them. There is a certain type of woman who would probably cause me no end of distress who I find incredibly attractive.

A bit that bit of your brain that short circuits when you see a barn find classic that’s obviously more trouble than it’s worth but you daydream about ‘saving’ it.



Hilda in Ugly Betty being a perfect example.

cwis

1,169 posts

182 months

mickythefish said:
Take jet fuel. It is cheaper to travel around the world than get a train 300 miles. That is messed up. And a world trying to save the planet is messed up.

Say as consumerism buying more cars to save the planet. All just stupid.
I do wonder about that - we're told that air travel is far more warmist that train travel. So why is train travel so expensive? Surely it would be cheaper if it were greener?

Or is it less warmist only if you look at the amount of fuel per passenger?

What if you included all the infrastructure in between? The rails, and trackbed and ongoing mantenance, all the people required to do that, their travel to work, etc etc...

Something must be making trains comparatively so expensive - what is it?

e-honda

9,065 posts

149 months

cwis said:
I do wonder about that - we're told that air travel is far more warmist that train travel. So why is train travel so expensive? Surely it would be cheaper if it were greener?

Or is it less warmist only if you look at the amount of fuel per passenger?

What if you included all the infrastructure in between? The rails, and trackbed and ongoing mantenance, all the people required to do that, their travel to work, etc etc...

Something must be making trains comparatively so expensive - what is it?
It's not just the cost of the energy used per journey.
Railways are expensive to build and maintain, flight paths are basically free.

cwis

1,169 posts

182 months

e-honda said:
It's not just the cost of the energy used per journey.
Railways are expensive to build and maintain, flight paths are basically free.
That's my point. Is air travel actually LESS warmist when you take all that into account?

e-honda

9,065 posts

149 months

cwis said:
That's my point. Is air travel actually LESS warmist when you take all that into account?
No it's just more expensive
The cost of energy used in construction or railway is probably recouped fairly quickly, the cost of labor and cost of land are far more expensive, but aren't a direct climate change contributer

cwis

1,169 posts

182 months

e-honda said:
cwis said:
That's my point. Is air travel actually LESS warmist when you take all that into account?
No it's just more expensive
The cost of energy used in construction or railway is probably recouped fairly quickly, the cost of labor and cost of land are far more expensive, but aren't a direct climate change contributer
Most raliways have been on the same routes (in the UK) for nearly 150 years so the ongoing cost of land is zero.
Let's say you're right and construction energy cost has been recouped.

So all we have left is maintenence. Why is that so expensive? How can it be so expensive without using energy and contributing to climate change?

If you employ someone and make them wear highvis and drive a crewcab pickup up and down the line surely their contribution to climate change (incuding the construction of the pickup!) has to be taken into account as well?

I suppose my unpopular opinion is: If it costs money it contributes to climate change on a proportional basis.

mickythefish

482 posts

9 months

The UK should reforest vast areas of land, introduce wolves, bears,Boars etc then set up the best hiking route in Europe.

mickythefish

482 posts

9 months

People that get sleeve tattoos should be made to cover them up

otolith

57,085 posts

207 months

cwis said:
I suppose my unpopular opinion is: If it costs money it contributes to climate change on a proportional basis.
I don’t think your conclusion is correct, but I do question why it should be that it is not.