Facts that shocked you

Facts that shocked you

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98elise

27,138 posts

164 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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AstonZagato said:
98elise said:
McGee_22 said:
98elise said:
The RAF also have their own soldiers, and the Army has pilots.

It makes a lot of sense that each service has its own specialists as they need to be able to integrate into the overall organisation as well as perform their primary role.

RAF pilots do fly from RN carriers now though.
Small point of order - the RN should not be given firearms. I was on subs when the upper deck trots were given handguns and genuinely every boat in Faslane had bets on as to how soon someone would shot themselves in the foot - iirc, it was in weeks.

The conclusion was that the safest place to stand when a matelot had a gun was right in front of him - a bit like you'd treat an imperial stormtrooper.
Yet the same people are trusted to operate and maintain nuclear weapons, missiles, aircraft, and large calibre guns.

Thats what happens when you treat handling small arms as a very minor part of your role. If you put a Marine (also Navy) in the same position it wouldn't happen.

Negligent discharges are a combination of poor training and a lack of leadership/supervision.

My job was to operate and maintain ships weapons (WE). I was trained for years. My small arms training could be measured in hours!
Question: given the reduced size of our armed forces and the importance of combined arms in our doctrine, would it not make sense to unify the RN, RAF and British Army into a single force, like the US Marine Corps?
No, there is too little overlap IMO other than Aircraft (Pilots and Ground Crew). Even within a specific force your job is in a particular branch and specialisation. That wouldn't change in a combined force. It would be name only.






Edited by 98elise on Wednesday 16th August 19:23

StescoG66

2,155 posts

146 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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Skeptisk said:
pocketspring said:
DodgyGeezer said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
GroundEffect said:
Maths is taught very wrong to people.
English is taught wrongly too.
your both correct getmecoat
There both what? getmecoat

I sea what you did their!
How do you console a grammar fanatic?

Their
They’re
There

getmecoat

TwigtheWonderkid

43,900 posts

153 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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StescoG66 said:
How do you console a grammar fanatic?

Their
They’re
There

getmecoat
Who led the pedants' revolt?
Which Tyler.

Castrol for a knave

4,918 posts

94 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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I am late to the party, but I only just found out that Ginger Baker played drums on PiL's "Rise".

That must have been an interesting dynamic, two of the most gifted but belligerent wkers in the same room.

deadtom

2,620 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Who led the pedants' revolt?
Which Tyler.
hehe
It took me a moment, but I like it.

MBBlat

1,713 posts

152 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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98elise said:
AstonZagato said:
98elise said:
McGee_22 said:
98elise said:
The RAF also have their own soldiers, and the Army has pilots.

It makes a lot of sense that each service has its own specialists as they need to be able to integrate into the overall organisation as well as perform their primary role.

RAF pilots do fly from RN carriers now though.
Small point of order - the RN should not be given firearms. I was on subs when the upper deck trots were given handguns and genuinely every boat in Faslane had bets on as to how soon someone would shot themselves in the foot - iirc, it was in weeks.

The conclusion was that the safest place to stand when a matelot had a gun was right in front of him - a bit like you'd treat an imperial stormtrooper.
Yet the same people are trusted to operate and maintain nuclear weapons, missiles, aircraft, and large calibre guns.

Thats what happens when you treat handling small arms as a very minor part of your role. If you put a Marine (also Navy) in the same position it wouldn't happen.

Negligent discharges are a combination of poor training and a lack of leadership/supervision.

My job was to operate and maintain ships weapons (WE). I was trained for years. My small arms training could be measured in hours!
Question: given the reduced size of our armed forces and the importance of combined arms in our doctrine, would it not make sense to unify the RN, RAF and British Army into a single force, like the US Marine Corps?
No, there is too little overlap IMO other than Aircraft (Pilots and Ground Crew). Even within a specific force your job is in a particular branch and specialisation. That wouldn't change in a combined force. It would be name only.






Edited by 98elise on Wednesday 16th August 19:23
Canada tried doing it that way, not been the success the politicians hoped it would be by all accounts.
In the 30’s the UK government thought it would be a good idea if they gave all the navy’s aircraft to the RAF, presumably prompted by the kind of Biggles who thinks anything that flies should be light blue. It’s often brought up as one of the main reasons for the lack of success of the RN carrier force in the early stages of WW2, HMS Glorious being a prime example.

Monkeylegend

26,729 posts

234 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Castrol for a knave said:
I am late to the party, but I only just found out that Ginger Baker played drums on PiL's "Rise".

That must have been an interesting dynamic, two of the most gifted but belligerent wkers in the same room.
I might have made this up but I am sure I have read somewhere that Ginger Baker could play four different beats at the same time on the drums.

Multi tasking at it's best if true.

Zetec-S

6,038 posts

96 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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The majority of people have an above average number of legs.

mickk

29,104 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Zetec-S said:
The majority of people have an above average number of legs.
Don't forget their legs.

Funk

26,396 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Cockaigne said:
The body produces 100w of power an hour just on tick over, metabolic processes. The body can produce 1000w a hour under strenuous exercise, think Matrix.
The Matrix was dumbed down saying that humans were used as 'batteries'. Using a human as a battery would be utterly pointless as it could only ever be net-negative.

The Matrix was originally about using humans' brains as a CPUs - effectively a massive distributed supercomputer. Once you know that, the whole plot finally makes sense as to why Neo could control it - he was able to break out of the constraints and control the code, allowing him to do whatever he wanted inside the Matrix.

The filmmakers thought that the viewing public were too stupid to understand that, hence the storyline about using them as batteries.

Halmyre

11,338 posts

142 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Funk said:
Cockaigne said:
The body produces 100w of power an hour just on tick over, metabolic processes. The body can produce 1000w a hour under strenuous exercise, think Matrix.
The Matrix was dumbed down saying that humans were used as 'batteries'. Using a human as a battery would be utterly pointless as it could only ever be net-negative.

The Matrix was originally about using humans' brains as a CPUs - effectively a massive distributed supercomputer. Once you know that, the whole plot finally makes sense as to why Neo could control it - he was able to break out of the constraints and control the code, allowing him to do whatever he wanted inside the Matrix.

The filmmakers thought that the viewing public were too stupid to understand that, hence the storyline about using them as batteries.
Everyone who comes out of the Matrix is different - so the creators are creating the embryos by random egg/sperm pairing, presumably. Make more sense to clone one individual, although you'd have to choose the source very carefully - imagine a supercomputer with the CPU of a load of Joey Essexes...

98elise

27,138 posts

164 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Babies are born with their full set of adult teeth already formed in the jaw.

Funk

26,396 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Halmyre said:
Funk said:
Cockaigne said:
The body produces 100w of power an hour just on tick over, metabolic processes. The body can produce 1000w a hour under strenuous exercise, think Matrix.
The Matrix was dumbed down saying that humans were used as 'batteries'. Using a human as a battery would be utterly pointless as it could only ever be net-negative.

The Matrix was originally about using humans' brains as a CPUs - effectively a massive distributed supercomputer. Once you know that, the whole plot finally makes sense as to why Neo could control it - he was able to break out of the constraints and control the code, allowing him to do whatever he wanted inside the Matrix.

The filmmakers thought that the viewing public were too stupid to understand that, hence the storyline about using them as batteries.
Everyone who comes out of the Matrix is different - so the creators are creating the embryos by random egg/sperm pairing, presumably. Make more sense to clone one individual, although you'd have to choose the source very carefully - imagine a supercomputer with the CPU of a load of Joey Essexes...
biggrin

Milkyway

9,592 posts

56 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Abraham Lincoln was a wrestling champion... losing once in three hundred fights.

Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 17th August 14:25

Mr Pointy

11,441 posts

162 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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StescoG66 said:
How do you console a grammar fanatic?

Their
They’re
There

getmecoat
Not to be pedantic but isn't that a spelling issue, not a grammar one?

mikey_b

1,949 posts

48 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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98elise said:
Babies are born with their full set of adult teeth already formed in the jaw.
Indeed - an xray of a baby's face is quite a sight.

otolith

57,065 posts

207 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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mikey_b said:
Indeed - an xray of a baby's face is quite a sight.
I think you misspelled “a Lovecraftian horror”

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

111 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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otolith said:
mikey_b said:
Indeed - an xray of a baby's face is quite a sight.
I think you misspelled “a Lovecraftian horror”
Aye, it's a child's skull that I've seen but it's one of the few things that's genuinely bothered me when I saw it. A part of me still refuses to accept it's real laugh

Jules Sunley

3,933 posts

96 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Funk said:
Halmyre said:
Funk said:
Cockaigne said:
The body produces 100w of power an hour just on tick over, metabolic processes. The body can produce 1000w a hour under strenuous exercise, think Matrix.
The Matrix was dumbed down saying that humans were used as 'batteries'. Using a human as a battery would be utterly pointless as it could only ever be net-negative.

The Matrix was originally about using humans' brains as a CPUs - effectively a massive distributed supercomputer. Once you know that, the whole plot finally makes sense as to why Neo could control it - he was able to break out of the constraints and control the code, allowing him to do whatever he wanted inside the Matrix.

The filmmakers thought that the viewing public were too stupid to understand that, hence the storyline about using them as batteries.
Everyone who comes out of the Matrix is different - so the creators are creating the embryos by random egg/sperm pairing, presumably. Make more sense to clone one individual, although you'd have to choose the source very carefully - imagine a supercomputer with the CPU of a load of Joey Essexes...
biggrin
Surely that would be a 'stuporcomputer'

Black_S3

2,699 posts

191 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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It’s probably a simple one to many on here but the first time someone told me that on a dyno graph every cars bhp and torque line will cross at 5250rpm I was a tad shocked. Very simple when you work out why but until then it seems like an amazing fact.