Facts that shocked you

Facts that shocked you

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Jules Sunley

3,933 posts

96 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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MBBlat said:
So do the Army https://www.army.mod.uk/who-we-are/corps-regiments...

The Navy fairly obviously have both a flying, FAA, and soldering branch, the Marines.
All this seems rather confusing to politicians and the more political senior officers who seem to think if it floats it’s Navy, if it flies it’s RAF with everything else being Army.
We're they in flux?

98elise

27,155 posts

164 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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MBBlat said:
Cockaigne said:
The RAF had a marine division, the Royal Air Force Marine Branch. They operated watercraft.

Came across the fact after watching this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fDnSQoneiE

WWII Rescue Buoys - Secret 'Floating Hotels' of the English Channel
So do the Army https://www.army.mod.uk/who-we-are/corps-regiments...

The Navy fairly obviously have both a flying, FAA, and soldering branch, the Marines.
All this seems rather confusing to politicians and the more political senior officers who seem to think if it floats it’s Navy, if it flies it’s RAF with everything else being Army.
The RAF also have their own soldiers, and the Army has pilots.

It makes a lot of sense that each service has its own specialists as they need to be able to integrate into the overall organisation as well as perform their primary role.

RAF pilots do fly from RN carriers now though.



McGee_22

6,861 posts

182 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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98elise said:
The RAF also have their own soldiers, and the Army has pilots.

It makes a lot of sense that each service has its own specialists as they need to be able to integrate into the overall organisation as well as perform their primary role.

RAF pilots do fly from RN carriers now though.
Small point of order - the RN should not be given firearms. I was on subs when the upper deck trots were given handguns and genuinely every boat in Faslane had bets on as to how soon someone would shot themselves in the foot - iirc, it was in weeks.

The conclusion was that the safest place to stand when a matelot had a gun was right in front of him - a bit like you'd treat an imperial stormtrooper.

otolith

57,085 posts

207 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Legacywr said:
This is ‘trivial maths’!

GroundEffect said:
It's trivial maths to look at it.

C=Pi()D

D = C/Pi()

X = 0.3/Pi() = 0.1m

For change in radius (gap under the string at a given point_0.05m aka 2 inches.
Equation relating circumference and radius of a circle and the algebra above are Key Stage 3 maths, taught to 11-14 year olds, pre-GCSE - pretty trivial?

98elise

27,155 posts

164 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Girls are born with every egg they will ever produce.

This means that when a woman is pregnant with a daughter, she is also carrying the eggs that will one day be her grandchildren.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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otolith said:
Legacywr said:
This is ‘trivial maths’!

GroundEffect said:
It's trivial maths to look at it.

C=Pi()D

D = C/Pi()

X = 0.3/Pi() = 0.1m

For change in radius (gap under the string at a given point_0.05m aka 2 inches.
Equation relating circumference and radius of a circle and the algebra above are Key Stage 3 maths, taught to 11-14 year olds, pre-GCSE - pretty trivial?
Could be my use of Pi()? That's instinctive at this point since I live in Excel with work.

Legacywr

12,392 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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otolith said:
Legacywr said:
This is ‘trivial maths’!

GroundEffect said:
It's trivial maths to look at it.

C=Pi()D

D = C/Pi()

X = 0.3/Pi() = 0.1m

For change in radius (gap under the string at a given point_0.05m aka 2 inches.
Equation relating circumference and radius of a circle and the algebra above are Key Stage 3 maths, taught to 11-14 year olds, pre-GCSE - pretty trivial?
A shocking fact….

Legacywr

12,392 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Man has only been aware of the existence of dinosaurs for around 200 years.

MBBlat

1,713 posts

152 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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McGee_22 said:
Small point of order - the RN should not be given firearms. I was on subs when the upper deck trots were given handguns and genuinely every boat in Faslane had bets on as to how soon someone would shot themselves in the foot - iirc, it was in weeks.

The conclusion was that the safest place to stand when a matelot had a gun was right in front of him - a bit like you'd treat an imperial stormtrooper.
Traditional that’s why the Marines exist. In Navy speak a 20mm cannon is still considered “small arms”, so anything man portable is hardly worth bothering with.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th August 2023
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Legacywr said:
otolith said:
Legacywr said:
This is ‘trivial maths’!

GroundEffect said:
It's trivial maths to look at it.

C=Pi()D

D = C/Pi()

X = 0.3/Pi() = 0.1m

For change in radius (gap under the string at a given point_0.05m aka 2 inches.
Equation relating circumference and radius of a circle and the algebra above are Key Stage 3 maths, taught to 11-14 year olds, pre-GCSE - pretty trivial?
A shocking fact….
Maths is wonderful. It's the language of logic and really not hard once you work out what it's saying. Like any language you have to learn it.

The above is saying that the circumference of a circle is equal to Pi times the diameter. So if the length (circumference) of the string got longer by 1ft, then the diameter change is 1ft/Pi or 1ft/3.142596....).

The next step is relating that generic version to the earth. Well, I could have done it two ways:

1) get the diameter of the earth (or circumference) and added on this extra foot and worked it out that way or,

2) what I actually did and saw that the C = πD is irrespective of size (it's a fixed relationship of C to D, no matter what size they are it's always 3.14 times the other) so you may as well just look at the diameter of a 1ft circumference and that could be added simply to the earth number (i.e. if the earth circumference got bigger by 1ft, it's diameter gets bigger by 4 inches - regardless of how big your item is to begin with!).

And then, I just divide by two to get a radius since it's the gap between the earth and this new larger string (it'll have an equal size gap on either side if we assume so for the purpose of this test).

I did all of it in my head but that's just from practice of being an engineer but the logic is the same. Find your equation between the phenomena you care about and go from there.

Maths is taught very wrong to people. It's a tool and language of the universe. Luckily I had some fantastic teachers at school that taught me to love it.



McGee_22

6,861 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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MBBlat said:
Traditional that’s why the Marines exist. In Navy speak a 20mm cannon is still considered “small arms”, so anything man portable is hardly worth bothering with.
Yep. Two things about Marines though;
1. Always ask them what instrument they play, and
2. Always insist on a 10 mile head start for your getaway.

hidetheelephants

26,013 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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McGee_22 said:
MBBlat said:
Traditional that’s why the Marines exist. In Navy speak a 20mm cannon is still considered “small arms”, so anything man portable is hardly worth bothering with.
Yep. Two things about Marines though;
1. Always ask them what instrument they play, and
2. Always insist on a 10 mile head start for your getaway.
Don't you just challenge them to a boxing match? If they've only got small arms you're bound to win. getmecoat

Skeptisk

Original Poster:

7,821 posts

112 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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98elise said:
Girls are born with every egg they will ever produce.

This means that when a woman is pregnant with a daughter, she is also carrying the eggs that will one day be her grandchildren.
Some material crosses the umbilical cord so you can find DNA from the mother in their children.

98elise

27,155 posts

164 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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McGee_22 said:
98elise said:
The RAF also have their own soldiers, and the Army has pilots.

It makes a lot of sense that each service has its own specialists as they need to be able to integrate into the overall organisation as well as perform their primary role.

RAF pilots do fly from RN carriers now though.
Small point of order - the RN should not be given firearms. I was on subs when the upper deck trots were given handguns and genuinely every boat in Faslane had bets on as to how soon someone would shot themselves in the foot - iirc, it was in weeks.

The conclusion was that the safest place to stand when a matelot had a gun was right in front of him - a bit like you'd treat an imperial stormtrooper.
Yet the same people are trusted to operate and maintain nuclear weapons, missiles, aircraft, and large calibre guns.

Thats what happens when you treat handling small arms as a very minor part of your role. If you put a Marine (also Navy) in the same position it wouldn't happen.

Negligent discharges are a combination of poor training and a lack of leadership/supervision.

My job was to operate and maintain ships weapons (WE). I was trained for years. My small arms training could be measured in hours!

McGee_22

6,861 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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98elise said:
<snip> My small arms training could be measured in hours!
Ahh, you did the long course then laugh

AstonZagato

12,809 posts

213 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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98elise said:
McGee_22 said:
98elise said:
The RAF also have their own soldiers, and the Army has pilots.

It makes a lot of sense that each service has its own specialists as they need to be able to integrate into the overall organisation as well as perform their primary role.

RAF pilots do fly from RN carriers now though.
Small point of order - the RN should not be given firearms. I was on subs when the upper deck trots were given handguns and genuinely every boat in Faslane had bets on as to how soon someone would shot themselves in the foot - iirc, it was in weeks.

The conclusion was that the safest place to stand when a matelot had a gun was right in front of him - a bit like you'd treat an imperial stormtrooper.
Yet the same people are trusted to operate and maintain nuclear weapons, missiles, aircraft, and large calibre guns.

Thats what happens when you treat handling small arms as a very minor part of your role. If you put a Marine (also Navy) in the same position it wouldn't happen.

Negligent discharges are a combination of poor training and a lack of leadership/supervision.

My job was to operate and maintain ships weapons (WE). I was trained for years. My small arms training could be measured in hours!
Question: given the reduced size of our armed forces and the importance of combined arms in our doctrine, would it not make sense to unify the RN, RAF and British Army into a single force, like the US Marine Corps?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,915 posts

153 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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GroundEffect said:
Maths is taught very wrong to people.
English is taught wrongly too.

DodgyGeezer

41,114 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
GroundEffect said:
Maths is taught very wrong to people.
English is taught wrongly too.
your both correct getmecoat

anonymous-user

57 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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DodgyGeezer said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
GroundEffect said:
Maths is taught very wrong to people.
English is taught wrongly too.
your both correct getmecoat
There both what? getmecoat

Skeptisk

Original Poster:

7,821 posts

112 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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pocketspring said:
DodgyGeezer said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
GroundEffect said:
Maths is taught very wrong to people.
English is taught wrongly too.
your both correct getmecoat
There both what? getmecoat

I sea what you did their!