What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

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deadtom

2,631 posts

168 months

Thursday 30th May
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Gordon Hill said:
romft123 said:
Gordon Hill said:
There is a God, discuss.
prove it
Lol, prove that there isn't!
The onus of proof is on the person making the original claim.

romft123

688 posts

7 months

Thursday 30th May
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DodgyGeezer said:
Giving 16 year olds the vote is insane.
Thats not unpopular. I wouldnt trust a 16 yr old to make toast

Strangely Brown

10,359 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th May
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21st Century Man said:
CivicDuties said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Giving 16 year olds the vote is insane.
I think that's probably a popular opinion on this forum, but I don't share it.

The Venn Diagram of this one, and people who think Shamima Begum knew what she was doing at 15 and so needed to have her citizenship revoked, is probably a single perfect circle - apologies to you DG if I'm wrong and there is a slight difference in your case, I'm just speaking in general terms, not addressing you specifically.

My 16 year old daughter and her friends, I'd be perfectly happy for them to have the vote, and no they don't all agree with who I'd vote for, not by a long chalk.
I reckon all these things should be lumped together at the same age. Sex, marriage, voting, driving, drinking, smoking etc. It seems daft that there can be a range from say 14 to 21 for different things that in terms of maturity, responsibility, self determination etc aren't too different.
... and if 16 year olds [or whatever age] are going to be treated as adults for all of the things that are desirable/convenient for them then they can/should be tried and sentenced as adults as well.

21st Century Man

41,253 posts

251 months

Thursday 30th May
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Strangely Brown said:
21st Century Man said:
CivicDuties said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Giving 16 year olds the vote is insane.
I think that's probably a popular opinion on this forum, but I don't share it.

The Venn Diagram of this one, and people who think Shamima Begum knew what she was doing at 15 and so needed to have her citizenship revoked, is probably a single perfect circle - apologies to you DG if I'm wrong and there is a slight difference in your case, I'm just speaking in general terms, not addressing you specifically.

My 16 year old daughter and her friends, I'd be perfectly happy for them to have the vote, and no they don't all agree with who I'd vote for, not by a long chalk.
I reckon all these things should be lumped together at the same age. Sex, marriage, voting, driving, drinking, smoking etc. It seems daft that there can be a range from say 14 to 21 for different things that in terms of maturity, responsibility, self determination etc aren't too different.
... and if 16 year olds [or whatever age] are going to be treated as adults for all of the things that are desirable/convenient for them then they can/should be tried and sentenced as adults as well.
yes

captain_cynic

12,686 posts

98 months

Thursday 30th May
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Strangely Brown said:
... and if 16 year olds [or whatever age] are going to be treated as adults for all of the things that are desirable/convenient for them then they can/should be tried and sentenced as adults as well.
Some are when the crime warrants it.

otolith

57,269 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th May
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21st Century Man said:
I reckon all these things should be lumped together at the same age. Sex, marriage, voting, driving, drinking, smoking etc. It seems daft that there can be a range from say 14 to 21 for different things that in terms of maturity, responsibility, self determination etc aren't too different.
Different consequences, to themselves and others, and differently enforceable, though.

21st Century Man

41,253 posts

251 months

Thursday 30th May
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otolith said:
21st Century Man said:
I reckon all these things should be lumped together at the same age. Sex, marriage, voting, driving, drinking, smoking etc. It seems daft that there can be a range from say 14 to 21 for different things that in terms of maturity, responsibility, self determination etc aren't too different.
Different consequences, to themselves and others, and differently enforceable, though.
But from say, State to State? The USA has a ridiculous difference/range between one part of the country and another for example.

Antony Moxey

8,320 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th May
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EBRANDON1 said:
CountyAFC said:
All current Ferraris are, stylistically, a mess.


not like?
A blancmange with a spatula underneath that’s missing its handle? It’s not a looker, especially in that colour.

carlo996

6,581 posts

24 months

Thursday 30th May
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EBRANDON1 said:


not like?
Not really. Trying quite hard, but failing IMO.

Gordon Hill

1,124 posts

18 months

Thursday 30th May
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I think that Katie Price is the victim of discrimination, she's done nothing to warrant how she is being treated, just leave this fine lady alone.

Strangely Brown

10,359 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th May
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Gordon Hill said:
I think that Katie Price is the victim of discrimination, she's done nothing to warrant how she is being treated, just leave this fine lady alone.
Do not feed the troll. smile

Nobody, except perhaps the bint herself, thinks that so you are quite clearly either sectionable or just having a laugh.

otolith

57,269 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th May
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21st Century Man said:
But from say, State to State? The USA has a ridiculous difference/range between one part of the country and another for example.
Yeah, the septics are nuts!

Strangely Brown

10,359 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th May
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21st Century Man said:
otolith said:
21st Century Man said:
I reckon all these things should be lumped together at the same age. Sex, marriage, voting, driving, drinking, smoking etc. It seems daft that there can be a range from say 14 to 21 for different things that in terms of maturity, responsibility, self determination etc aren't too different.
Different consequences, to themselves and others, and differently enforceable, though.
But from say, State to State? The USA has a ridiculous difference/range between one part of the country and another for example.
What have state differences got to do with UK politics and the lowering of the age of suffrage?

Gordon Hill

1,124 posts

18 months

Thursday 30th May
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Strangely Brown said:
Gordon Hill said:
I think that Katie Price is the victim of discrimination, she's done nothing to warrant how she is being treated, just leave this fine lady alone.
Do not feed the troll. smile

Nobody, except perhaps the bint herself, thinks that so you are quite clearly either sectionable or just having a laugh.
I see that you've had a sense of humour bypass, chill out FFS, try laughing a bit more instead of being a miserable c#nt.


Edited by Gordon Hill on Thursday 30th May 19:36

andym1603

1,831 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th May
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The government should stop throwing money at trying to rehabilitate drug users. These individuals are not interested in reforming and are just looking for their next fix.
There is millions getting wasted when we could just let natural selection take its course.

Randy Winkman

16,663 posts

192 months

Thursday 30th May
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romft123 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Giving 16 year olds the vote is insane.
Thats not unpopular. I wouldnt trust a 16 yr old to make toast
I'd rather 16 year olds were voting than 80 year olds.

hidetheelephants

26,359 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th May
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andym1603 said:
The government should stop throwing money at trying to rehabilitate drug users. These individuals are not interested in reforming and are just looking for their next fix.
There is millions getting wasted when we could just let natural selection take its course.
There's ~£8bn a year wasted enforcing insane and counterproductive drug laws; decriminalise all usage and for the likes of cannabis etc legalise it and tax it. Legalised drugs should be available in prison.

Dracoro

8,742 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th May
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andym1603 said:
The government should stop throwing money at trying to rehabilitate drug users. These individuals are not interested in reforming and are just looking for their next fix.
There is millions getting wasted when we could just let natural selection take its course.
Millions getting wasted biggrinbiggrin Why else would they be doing it wink

Strangely Brown

10,359 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th May
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Gordon Hill said:
Strangely Brown said:
Gordon Hill said:
I think that Katie Price is the victim of discrimination, she's done nothing to warrant how she is being treated, just leave this fine lady alone.
Do not feed the troll. smile

Nobody, except perhaps the bint herself, thinks that so you are quite clearly either sectionable or just having a laugh.
I see that you've had a sense of humour bypass, chill out FFS, try laughing a bit more instead of being a miserable c#nt.
... and the horse you rode in on, sunshine. There is nothing remotely amusing, in any sense about that oxygen thief. But thanks for your concern. Love you too.

Cheers.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Thursday 30th May 20:38

andym1603

1,831 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th May
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hidetheelephants said:
There's ~£8bn a year wasted enforcing insane and counterproductive drug laws; decriminalise all usage and for the likes of cannabis etc legalise it and tax it. Legalised drugs should be available in prison.
Legalising drugs in prisons would only make things harder for the staff than what they have to put up with at the moment. Yes the occupants would be chilled out most of the time but if the stupid buggers overdose that means a fatal accident inquiry for each death. These are long drawn out and the finger almost always points at the staff for allowing the deaths to happen.
Also, you would get bullying of the ones that had the drugs from those who cannot afford them. Causing more trouble for the staff to deal with.