Guide dogs for the blind
Discussion
Gretchen said:
Stedman said:
Did a guide dog piss up your leg today?
Whilst in a shopping centre??Jackal im still waiting for a valid reason why you seem to have singled out G.D.F.T.B as opposed to ALL the other charities that are luckily in a much more secure financial set-up.
It just seems like your pissed off at them for no reason?
Stedman said:
Gretchen said:
Stedman said:
Did a guide dog piss up your leg today?
Whilst in a shopping centre??Jackal im still waiting for a valid reason why you seem to have singled out G.D.F.T.B as opposed to ALL the other charities that are luckily in a much more secure financial set-up.
It just seems like your pissed off at them for no reason?
my FIL is president of a large blind home so I have as much empathy for blind people as others who benefit from charity
but GDFTB seems to be a much cherished, almost default first selection charity for many, especially the elderley
Guide dogs need all the money they can get, the dogs provide a great deal of independence and companionship to their owners. They invest heavily into opthalmic research, campaign for better rights and intergration into society. They also partially fund other smaller charities projects (like many other large charities), meaning that they actually help small charities to stay afloat. We should be grateful they can keep saving now, they might not be receiving so much in the future, and I'd rather know they could be secure to carry on helping people.
Everybody will (and should) give to the charity(s) that ring their bell.
My wife whips her credit card out at the merest mention of a dolphin.
HOWEVER, a ....erm... very good friend of mine was secretary to the top-dog (sorry) at Leamington and the main reason she left related to the collossal salaries, expenses and pension/benefit packages paid to "executives"
As charities cannot show a profit they need to dispose of monies in excess of operating and contingency funds.
GDFTB own a bunch of hotels among other things.
Another great way of spending the money you stuffed in the tins is to go on an assortment of fact-finding jaunts.
("Yes, he's blind and that would seem to be a dog").
Seeing (sorry again) how dogs operate in hot countries or what problems they may encounter walking on sand or dodging coconuts can also be useful.
Puppy-Walkers (there's a queue) are unpaid.
Unlike everyone else.
Have a look at the derisory income and assets of the Lifeboat Institute.
Not cuddly enough.
I'd love to say that Andrex hire their puppies from GDFTB but they don't.
They DID learn exactly what puppy to use though.
I'm with jackal all the way.
Jesus, they won't even let you stroke the bloody things.
(Please don't tell me why not. I know.)
My wife whips her credit card out at the merest mention of a dolphin.
HOWEVER, a ....erm... very good friend of mine was secretary to the top-dog (sorry) at Leamington and the main reason she left related to the collossal salaries, expenses and pension/benefit packages paid to "executives"
As charities cannot show a profit they need to dispose of monies in excess of operating and contingency funds.
GDFTB own a bunch of hotels among other things.
Another great way of spending the money you stuffed in the tins is to go on an assortment of fact-finding jaunts.
("Yes, he's blind and that would seem to be a dog").
Seeing (sorry again) how dogs operate in hot countries or what problems they may encounter walking on sand or dodging coconuts can also be useful.
Puppy-Walkers (there's a queue) are unpaid.
Unlike everyone else.
Have a look at the derisory income and assets of the Lifeboat Institute.
Not cuddly enough.
I'd love to say that Andrex hire their puppies from GDFTB but they don't.
They DID learn exactly what puppy to use though.
I'm with jackal all the way.
Jesus, they won't even let you stroke the bloody things.
(Please don't tell me why not. I know.)
When working with jacket and harness, dogs are trained to ignore any distractions.
Particularly ones like "ooz a clever boy for his dad den" or "he's just like our Rocky, does he like sausages?
They are also trained where and when to empty themselves to prevent embarrassment re "picking-up"
with its obvious compromises.
Can't pick it up if you can't see it.
Particularly ones like "ooz a clever boy for his dad den" or "he's just like our Rocky, does he like sausages?
They are also trained where and when to empty themselves to prevent embarrassment re "picking-up"
with its obvious compromises.
Can't pick it up if you can't see it.
By doing what they usually do.
Unpaid tin-rattlers...erm...rattling tins in close proximity to some puppies and an old/retired dog in jacket and harness.
Media communications....
Edited to add; Oh yes the rattling must occur at maximum people-density (Don't!) locations to add the "embarrassment factor" to those who would prefer to sweep majestically by.
As is their right.
Unpaid tin-rattlers...erm...rattling tins in close proximity to some puppies and an old/retired dog in jacket and harness.
Media communications....
Edited to add; Oh yes the rattling must occur at maximum people-density (Don't!) locations to add the "embarrassment factor" to those who would prefer to sweep majestically by.
As is their right.
Edited by root 666 on Thursday 12th February 15:12
parakitaMol. said:
Again you are completely wrong Jackal.
in your opinion, you forgot 'IMO'please reread the thread... this isn't a recounting of the 'raising of lazarus' we are discussing, its not mathamatics or the laws of organic chemistry, its opinions
parakitaMol. said:
I have no 'emotive' connection with Guide Dogs for Blind.
I never said you personally did.parakitaMol. said:
I simply understand a little of how charities operate. Neither am I 'politically correct.
yes you are, you are saying 'the right thing', the 'theory', what might sound good in a university lecture hall, all this 'subjective' stuff, worthiness has no measure etc.. In the meantime i'm in the real world. A world where a charity could go under but if they took a pound from GDFTB they might survive and thrive and simulatenously, GDFTB's exclusion from that pound won't amount to anything.
parakitaMol. said:
The simple fact remains that they are a solid, well run organisation which does a great deal more than training cute puppies.
hooray..... no one is debating that or taking anything away from themthere are also many other charities out there that are well run and also do a great deal more than the headline
parakitaMol. said:
As I did explain earlier - there is NO measure of worthiness when it comes do donating. Certainly not size. It is a personal, complex motivation.
what do you mean 'as i did explain earlier'. Its like youve read it off a tablet straight out the ark of the covenant. You're not an oracle you know.What would you rather be, dead or blind ? answer me that ? See.. I just did measure it.. and so did you.
In any case, as I explained earlier, i'm not interested if worthiness is subjective or unquantifiable etc.. I am interested in looking at the way in which people deafult to charities often because of ignorance about others. How far do we have to magnify and characterise the problem for you to start to see sense. If GDFTB had 1 trillion in the bank and there was only one other charity left on the face of the earth and you had ONE pound left to give and if you gave that pound to GDFTB then the other charity would instantly ceases to exist .. would you still be writing all the twaddle you are here, banging on about worthiness being nebulous and subjective and not measureable.
parakitaMol. said:
In fact, in my experience and personal opinion of charities, I would prefer (and do) donate to larger charities with greater lobbying and campaigning power, more influential Trustees and comprise a professional senior management team who can actually manage because they've got experience gained in the commercial sectors.
good for youif everyone thought like you though we'd be f
ked because the big charities don't exactly cover every aspect of life on planet earth that needs, requires and deserves charityparakitaMol. said:
As for advertising, pr, marketing spend... it's the most ludicrous argument because if they don't invest effectively in those media communications how on earth do they raise awareness or generate donations???
they don't need to raise awareness because everyone loves a cuddly dogand whilst not wishing to take anything away from the good work which they do (see I have to put that in because your repetition really is boring me) they seem to be the default charity selection for many many people
parakitaMol. said:
Guide dogs are great and its a worthy charity. I've seen how charitable money for eye disease and sight degeneration research ended up funding doctor's jollies to foreign conferences and various other CV boosting exercises. Giving money to groups who provide practical help to those who need it is much more useful in my opinion.
Hoppy2008 said:
I asked this question on the other thread but didnt get an answer:
serious question:
Can a cat be trained to do the same job as a guide dog?
Highly unlikely in my experience of cats. They do exactly what THEY want and only what they want. Cats do not seem to seek approval.serious question:
Can a cat be trained to do the same job as a guide dog?
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