Private schools, times a changing?
Discussion
Vixpy1 said:
Labour have confirmed that unless your child is on a SEN goverment plan, you will be wacked with VAT
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/special-need...Sorry for the telegraph link, first hit on this.
But interestingly 100,000 of the SEN children in private dont currently have local authority funding because they’ve not applied for an EHC plan. So guess what, now there is this VAT on fees coming, there will be tens of thousands of EHC applications to receive funding and to be vat exempt, leading to more LA funding for SEN children in private, so more taxpayer money going in. Unintended consequences.
M1AGM said:
Vixpy1 said:
Labour have confirmed that unless your child is on a SEN goverment plan, you will be wacked with VAT
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/special-need...Sorry for the telegraph link, first hit on this.
But interestingly 100,000 of the SEN children in private dont currently have local authority funding because they’ve not applied for an EHC plan. So guess what, now there is this VAT on fees coming, there will be tens of thousands of EHC applications to receive funding and to be vat exempt, leading to more LA funding for SEN children in private, so more taxpayer money going in. Unintended consequences.
Net result, Comrade Reeves' spite-tax further eroded, LA CAMS teams placed under yet more pressure and children from vulnerable families even more likely to get left behind
DonkeyApple said:
100k SEN? Is that genuine SEN or have schools just been allowing the designation to save the parents having to face the reality that the child is just a bit dim? That seams a staggering % if it's not including lactose intolerance and gingers?
That number of children may be in receipt of some form of learning or pastoral support but I would be very surprised if that number met the bar for an EHC statement and, therefore, LA financial support.I seem to remember that, a few years back, one of the more prestigious prep schools in SW London and a key feeder for Eton, Harrow, Cranleigh and Charterhouse had 40% of boys requiring some level of SEN support but only two statemented
Tom8 said:
I've always assumed a lot of people claim "SEN" for the benefits involved. I might well join in and see if I can coach my daughter to be on the scale. Watch the applications spiral!
Point taken, though LA assessments this year like previous years have been an exercise in swimming through treacle.DonkeyApple said:
100k SEN? Is that genuine SEN or have schools just been allowing the designation to save the parents having to face the reality that the child is just a bit dim? That seams a staggering % if it's not including lactose intolerance and gingers?
My son was at private school - he is deeply dyslexic. One measure of dyslexia is the gap between IQ and spelling ability. He was on the 98th centile for IQ and on the 2nd centile for spelling - he almost couldn't be more dyslexic (he'd been at one of the finest prep schools in the country, supposedly that tailored their approach to each child - and they'd not really helped him). We chose another school that could take him from 11 to 18 with a good SEN programme on the basis that they would turn things around for public exams. He got 9 GCSEs, 3 A levels and got into his first choice university.AstonZagato said:
My son was at private school - he is deeply dyslexic. One measure of dyslexia is the gap between IQ and spelling ability. He was on the 98th centile for IQ and on the 2nd centile for spelling - he almost couldn't be more dyslexic (he'd been at one of the finest prep schools in the country, supposedly that tailored their approach to each child - and they'd not really helped him). We chose another school that could take him from 11 to 18 with a good SEN programme on the basis that they would turn things around for public exams. He got 9 GCSEs, 3 A levels and got into his first choice university.
My parents were the pioneers in the 80s of forcing educational establishments to start recognising dyslexia and raising its awareness. Prior to that one was just thick and the careers advisor sent you off to a Guards regiment. My nephew seems to have achieved similar to your son thanks to the work done late into the 90s to have dyslexia accepted. I managed to escape the Guards thanks to my parents. 
M1AGM said:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/special-need...
Sorry for the telegraph link, first hit on this.
But interestingly 100,000 of the SEN children in private dont currently have local authority funding because they’ve not applied for an EHC plan. So guess what, now there is this VAT on fees coming, there will be tens of thousands of EHC applications to receive funding and to be vat exempt, leading to more LA funding for SEN children in private, so more taxpayer money going in. Unintended consequences.
Not really, you have to ask if there is an entitlement (and we're talking about an awful lot of entitled parents here*) why they haven't applied already? It can't be "because private", I mean 5 posts down we get solid evidence of the value we've all paid for with Sorry for the telegraph link, first hit on this.
But interestingly 100,000 of the SEN children in private dont currently have local authority funding because they’ve not applied for an EHC plan. So guess what, now there is this VAT on fees coming, there will be tens of thousands of EHC applications to receive funding and to be vat exempt, leading to more LA funding for SEN children in private, so more taxpayer money going in. Unintended consequences.
AstonZagato said:
(he'd been at one of the finest prep schools in the country, supposedly that tailored their approach to each child - and they'd not really helped him).
Why on earth would people with SEN kids not be applying for help? (*I sent my 3 to private, and 5 different schools in total at that).
macron said:
AstonZagato said:
(he'd been at one of the finest prep schools in the country, supposedly that tailored their approach to each child - and they'd not really helped him).
Why on earth would people with SEN kids not be applying for help? Louis Balfour said:
Harry Flashman said:
HMRC are onto this, apparently.
They aren’t.They aren’t onto most of what they are supposed to be onto, much less something that does not yet exist.
We pre-paid for our child's final year today, with the understanding that the date of the deposit creates the tax point. Got a 4% discount too, which almost offsets the loss of interest from a cash account.
Of course Labour could introduce anti-avoidance measures to recapture this payment but at least I tried, seemed like a free option.
Of course Labour could introduce anti-avoidance measures to recapture this payment but at least I tried, seemed like a free option.
Just my 2 pence but on the SEN front I would have thought if a child is low needs enough that they are attending a public school with expectation of participating to a normal level. They won’t be in a position to apply for any financial support to be spent on attending a public school.
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