What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

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captain_cynic

12,611 posts

98 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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nonsequitur said:
singlecoil said:
nonsequitur said:
...When on any phone you focus on the persons face and not on your driving...
I can only assume you mean Skype or something similar.
No. Tests and trials and investigations, (others are available), conclude that when someone is on the phone they picture the face of the person on the other end. Almost continuously, and enough to be distracting when driving.
This.

Repeated scientific studies have shown you will prioritise the call over driving.

Repeated collisions have backed this up.

I'll say it again, if you think you can phone and drive, you are clearly unaware of how bad you're driving.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

119 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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captain_cynic said:
This.

Repeated scientific studies have shown you will prioritise the call over driving.

Repeated collisions have backed this up.

I'll say it again, if you think you can phone and drive, you are clearly unaware of how bad you're driving.
Love your last point, captain.drivingphonenono

singlecoil

34,139 posts

249 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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captain_cynic said:
nonsequitur said:
singlecoil said:
nonsequitur said:
...When on any phone you focus on the persons face and not on your driving...
I can only assume you mean Skype or something similar.
No. Tests and trials and investigations, (others are available), conclude that when someone is on the phone they picture the face of the person on the other end. Almost continuously, and enough to be distracting when driving.
This.

Repeated scientific studies have shown you will prioritise the call over driving.

Repeated collisions have backed this up.

I'll say it again, if you think you can phone and drive, you are clearly unaware of how bad you're driving.
I can well imagine that there are a good many people who would be unable to safely conduct a phone conversation and drive at the same time. I expect there would be enough of them to make it worth driving while on the phone illegal.


Steven_RW

1,730 posts

205 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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nonsequitur said:
captain_cynic said:
This.

Repeated scientific studies have shown you will prioritise the call over driving.

Repeated collisions have backed this up.

I'll say it again, if you think you can phone and drive, you are clearly unaware of how bad you're driving.
Love your last point, captain.drivingphonenono
I agree that talking on the phone including handsfree does use mental capacity and increase the risk of making a mistake.

What I don't agree with is that it is not possible. The same way that you factor in imperfect conditions (tired, the kids being noisy, not knowing the road, etc.) in to the pace and spacing you drive with, you can accommodate the risk of being distracted somewhat. The biggest risk is NOT being aware that using the phone impacts your ability to focus entirely on the road.

Keep in mind race drivers are regularly talking to the pits throughout the race whilst trying to put in very precise laps but once it comes to the ultimate moment needed for concentration they ask for silence.

RW

captain_cynic

12,611 posts

98 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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Steven_RW said:
Keep in mind race drivers are regularly talking to the pits throughout the race whilst trying to put in very precise laps but once it comes to the ultimate moment needed for concentration they ask for silence.

RW
If everyone had the discapline and training of professional rece drivers, there'd be a lot we could do smile

Sadly, the average driver doesn't.... And half of all drivers aren't even as competent as that.

Speed addicted

5,613 posts

230 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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bluezedd said:
My unpopular PH opinion is that "ditchfinders" can be perfectly adequate for many applications and that they may be a good choice.

Coming from previously commuting year round on a motorbike for years, "ditchfinders" and the other luxuries like ABS and 4 wheels are great.

That said, I have also been in friends' cars where they have been doing things that I would have fully expected "ditchfinders" to have let go. These have not been the sort of cars you would fit budget tyres to though.

I am pretty anal about tyre pressures, tyre condition and tread depth, but I'm happy with the grip of the budget tyres I have fitted.

I'd rather be in a low powered car with good condition budget tyres on, than on a bike with michelin pilot road 5s in terrible weather.

That said, I can totally understand why someone might not fit them on their partner's car if their driving style might see them crash the first time they lose traction, or when doing high speed long distance stuff.

Edited by bluezedd on Friday 18th October 00:33
I do see where you're coming from (and also have bikes), however my approach is to get the best tyres for the job. Cheap tyres may be perfectly fine but sometimes you may require the extra 5m of braking distance on a wet road if it's the difference between crashing or not crashing.

I've recently bought a BMW 420d Xdrive, it's not hugely powerful, has four wheel drive and came fitted with novelty tyres. On damp roundabouts you can feel it squirm and move around where I'd expect better tyres just to grip normally.
The difference in grip may (in extreme circumstances) have a significant difference to how and where you end the day.

For the sake of a few hundred quid over about 3-4 years of driving I'd rather have as much grip as I can get, even if I don't end up needing all of it. In much the same way that I wear a seatbelt but don't expect to use it.

Blown2CV

29,271 posts

206 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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Flibble said:
WJNB said:
We no longer have free speech in this country so some REAL unpopular opinions expressed within earshot of anybody are likely to result in being arrested. Best keep such thoughts unspoken them & certainly not shared on a forum such as this or any form of social media.
When did we ever have free speech?
well, never, but the difference is that we now have a nation of 70 million police informants, snoopers and angry social media mob pitchfork wielders

nickfrog

21,467 posts

220 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Blown2CV said:
well, never, but the difference is that we now have a nation of 70 million police informants, snoopers and angry social media mob pitchfork wielders
I agree, at least based on your level of aggressivity.

Blown2CV

29,271 posts

206 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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nickfrog said:
Blown2CV said:
well, never, but the difference is that we now have a nation of 70 million police informants, snoopers and angry social media mob pitchfork wielders
I agree, at least based on your level of aggressivity.
is that a word?

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

119 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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Blown2CV said:
is that a word?
It is now. An appearance on PH qualifies.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,900 posts

153 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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Boris Johnson is not a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Even if you agree with him politically, no one should be voting Conservative whilst he is leader. Conservative voters should either abstain, or vote Brexit if they are Leavers or Lib Dem is they are Remainers.

Blown2CV

29,271 posts

206 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Boris Johnson is not a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Even if you agree with him politically, no one should be voting Conservative whilst he is leader. Conservative voters should either abstain, or vote Brexit if they are Leavers or Lib Dem is they are Remainers.
brexit (or brexit-derived) chat is banned (i don't make the rules) because a) it's so fking tedious and b) because the country is split down the middle there are no unpopular opinions. I think a mod said he would ban the next brexit opinion-raiser...

TwigtheWonderkid

43,900 posts

153 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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Blown2CV said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Boris Johnson is not a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Even if you agree with him politically, no one should be voting Conservative whilst he is leader. Conservative voters should either abstain, or vote Brexit if they are Leavers or Lib Dem is they are Remainers.
brexit (or brexit-derived) chat is banned (i don't make the rules) because a) it's so fking tedious and b) because the country is split down the middle there are no unpopular opinions. I think a mod said he would ban the next brexit opinion-raiser...
Fair enough, let's forget the B word and just go with Boris Johnson is not a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

psi310398

9,305 posts

206 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Fair enough, let's forget the B word and just go with Boris Johnson is not a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Well, we will have an election result soon enough that will answer whether your fellow citizens agree or not. I suspect that you will find that your opinion although popular enough is still unpopular enough not to represent a majority viewsmile.

Blown2CV

29,271 posts

206 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Blown2CV said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Boris Johnson is not a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Even if you agree with him politically, no one should be voting Conservative whilst he is leader. Conservative voters should either abstain, or vote Brexit if they are Leavers or Lib Dem is they are Remainers.
brexit (or brexit-derived) chat is banned (i don't make the rules) because a) it's so fking tedious and b) because the country is split down the middle there are no unpopular opinions. I think a mod said he would ban the next brexit opinion-raiser...
Fair enough, let's forget the B word and just go with Boris Johnson is not a fit and proper person to be Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
still probably not unpopular if you were to take a cross-section of the population.

thepeoplespal

1,655 posts

280 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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My unpopular opinion is that a sheddy Vauxhall Vectra (the one before the Insignia) 1.8 petrol is a perfectly adequate form of transport for long distance driving. Bit floaty at the backend perhaps, but quiet on the motorway and blessed with a simple to operate cruise control.

Having always discounted it as a means of transport I can see the appeal of a car designed to be a motorway hack. The 1.8 petrol gets a bad write up, but it seemed ok to me and the 38+mpg driving was a surprise. Doesn't hold a candle to the family Alfa GT on handling stakes, but I can see why the sold in numbers

ging84

9,062 posts

149 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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I prefer Iranians to people from most other Middle eastern countries

Europa1

10,923 posts

191 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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ging84 said:
I prefer Iranians to people from most other Middle eastern countries
I'll preface this with the fact that I have never been to the region and know very little about it, so I am asking out of genuine interest as opposed to any wish to be provocative - why?

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

84 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Blown2CV said:
Flibble said:
WJNB said:
We no longer have free speech in this country so some REAL unpopular opinions expressed within earshot of anybody are likely to result in being arrested. Best keep such thoughts unspoken them & certainly not shared on a forum such as this or any form of social media.
When did we ever have free speech?
well, never, but the difference is that we now have a nation of 70 million police informants, snoopers and angry social media mob pitchfork wielders
We do have the right to free speech, but that doesn't mean we don't have to abide by the law of the land.

I can go on to Twitter and post something reprehensible. Nobody is stopping me doing so. But I then have to accept that there are laws and that my use of free speech doesn't circumvent them.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,900 posts

153 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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ging84 said:
I prefer Iranians to people from most other Middle eastern countries
I'd say the Lebanese are the best of a pretty poor bunch. At least they have a modicum of self deprecation, something that seems to be completely lacking across the rest of Arab world. I've dealt with a lot of people from the Middle East thru work, mostly very polite and respectful, and genuinely good company, but...... you will never ever hear one of then say "I've been such an idiot" or similar. It's just not in their culture. Laughing at yourself is no different to being laughed at, it's just a no-no. Keep up appearances at all cost, and never admit to any failings.

In my experience, Jewish people tell Jewish jokes, and the Arabs also tell Jewish jokes. It's not a trait I care for very much.