Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

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Ken_Code

1,507 posts

5 months

Thursday
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MBBlat said:
Another relatively new one, the NAZIs were socialists who nationalised German industry in world war 2.

Would it be rude to suggest anyone holding this opinion go and express this to a local Neo-Nazi, or would that be considered attempted murder?
It’s not clear what point you are trying to make here. They obviously viewed themselves as socialists at one point, as that’s what they called themselves.

Why though would the facts of the matter be decided by what a neo-nazi today thinks? Do you base your knowledge of anny other historical facts on what neo-nazis believe?

MBBlat

1,710 posts

152 months

Thursday
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Ken_Code said:
MBBlat said:
Another relatively new one, the NAZIs were socialists who nationalised German industry in world war 2.

Would it be rude to suggest anyone holding this opinion go and express this to a local Neo-Nazi, or would that be considered attempted murder?
It’s not clear what point you are trying to make here. They obviously viewed themselves as socialists at one point, as that’s what they called themselves.

Why though would the facts of the matter be decided by what a neo-nazi today thinks? Do you base your knowledge of anny other historical facts on what neo-nazis believe?
Except apart from their very early years, ie before June 30th 1934, the National Socialists were as socialist as a Democratic People’s Republic are democratic. Actual socialists were put into the concentration camps by the NAZIS once they gained power.

Do you think Neo-Nazis would consider themselves socialists? Or would they likely express their objections violently?

A basic summary https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-so...




Ken_Code

1,507 posts

5 months

Thursday
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MBBlat said:
Except apart from their very early years, ie before June 30th 1934, the National Socialists were as socialist as a Democratic People’s Republic are democratic. Actual socialists were put into the concentration camps by the NAZIS once they gained power.

Do you think Neo-Nazis would consider themselves socialists? Or would they likely express their objections violently?

A basic summary https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-so...
Again, why do you think the question of whether the Nazi party was socialist is to be decided by what a neo-nazi thinks?

You are making no sense here.

MBBlat

1,710 posts

152 months

Thursday
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Ken_Code said:
Again, why do you think the question of whether the Nazi party was socialist is to be decided by what a neo-nazi thinks?

You are making no sense here.
There is no question that the Nazi party was socialist, they clearly weren’t. I’m just wondering what the response of the Neo-Nazis would be if you told them their idols were socialist, unless of course you think the Neo-Nazis with their scensoreda flags and tattoos don’t idolises the Nazis?

Ken_Code

1,507 posts

5 months

Thursday
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MBBlat said:
There is no question that the Nazi party was socialist, they clearly weren’t. I’m just wondering what the response of the Neo-Nazis would be if you told them their idols were socialist, unless of course you think the Neo-Nazis with their scensoreda flags and tattoos don’t idolises the Nazis?
But that’s not what you posted. You said that if you wonder if the National Socialist German Workers' Party was socialist then you should ask a neo-nazi.

Edited by Ken_Code on Thursday 27th June 22:14

MBBlat

1,710 posts

152 months

Thursday
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Ken_Code said:
But that’s not what you posted. You said that if you wonder if the National Socialist German Workers' Party was socialist then you should ask a neo-nazi.

Edited by Ken_Code on Thursday 27th June 22:14
No I wondered if telling a Neo-Nazi that the Nazis were socialist would get you killed. You seem intent on twisting my meaning for some reason.

The Nazis may have been founded as a mixture of Nationalism and socialism, but a certain Adolf Hitler took over who moved the party away from its initial beliefs. The name was kept mainly for propaganda purposes, party members who still believed in socialism were purged by the mid 1930’s. Even contemporary right wingers such as Churchill categorised the Nazis as extreme right.

There now seems to be a right wing belief that seems to consist of Nazis = bad, leftists = bad, therefore Nazis = leftist.

Ken_Code

1,507 posts

5 months

Thursday
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MBBlat said:
There now seems to be a right wing belief that seems to consist of Nazis = bad, leftists = bad, therefore Nazis = leftist.
Only in your head.

Tankrizzo

7,342 posts

196 months

I don't see what any of this has to do with conspiracy theories.

Alex Z

1,225 posts

79 months

Tankrizzo said:
I don't see what any of this has to do with conspiracy theories.
You posted that at exactly midnight. It’s part of the great reset….

Anyway, one that I’d not heard of before is the idea of geopolymer blocks.
Apparently rock formations like Kinver Edge aren’t natural but are man made construction for some unspecified purpose…..

https://youtube.com/@pauliecook432?si=Y3xKltwmLtQf...

Blown2CV

29,230 posts

206 months

nazis were kind of socialist... just socialist within a somewhat restricted subset of the population.

Legacywr

12,342 posts

191 months

A friend of mine who’s obsessed with all this stuff posted a meme the other day.

It went along the lines of…

I’ll never trust a health worker or big pharmacy again!

I posted, “what about the ones who saved your life?”

He had a triple heart bypass this year…

MightyBadger

2,429 posts

53 months

Alex Z said:
You posted that at exactly midnight. It’s part of the great reset….

Anyway, one that I’d not heard of before is the idea of geopolymer blocks.
Apparently rock formations like Kinver Edge aren’t natural but are man made construction for some unspecified purpose…..

https://youtube.com/@pauliecook432?si=Y3xKltwmLtQf...
When in actual fact it was a quarry first then re-used as a hillfort, the 'blocks' are a naturally fractured rock formation - Mr Cook doesn't 'Geology' lol

Hoofy

76,766 posts

285 months

Legacywr said:
A friend of mine who’s obsessed with all this stuff posted a meme the other day.

It went along the lines of…

I’ll never trust a health worker or big pharmacy again!

I posted, “what about the ones who saved your life?”

He had a triple heart bypass this year…
rofl That's exactly the kind of thing I expect to see. My "friends" are all "love and light" until they have a baby and then the first place they'll think of going when the contractions kick in isn't the mind/body/spirit festival, their yoga studio or their shaman.

GeneralBanter

928 posts

18 months

MightyBadger said:
Alex Z said:
You posted that at exactly midnight. It’s part of the great reset….

Anyway, one that I’d not heard of before is the idea of geopolymer blocks.
Apparently rock formations like Kinver Edge aren’t natural but are man made construction for some unspecified purpose…..

https://youtube.com/@pauliecook432?si=Y3xKltwmLtQf...
When in actual fact it was a quarry first then re-used as a hillfort, the 'blocks' are a naturally fractured rock formation - Mr Cook doesn't 'Geology' lol
There's a big thing with this bloke and all like him - that he's discovering things that are purposely being hidden from him/us.

Its like watching a child.

If only he could read he would be able to understand the reasons for all these things he posts about, but in total ignorance he makes up ridiculous plots of concealment and subterfuge.

MightyBadger

2,429 posts

53 months

GeneralBanter said:
There's a big thing with this bloke and all like him - that he's discovering things that are purposely being hidden from him/us.

Its like watching a child.

If only he could read he would be able to understand the reasons for all these things he posts about, but in total ignorance he makes up ridiculous plots of concealment and subterfuge.
Haha yes indeed, it's is frustrating sometimes to watch these people trying to re-write history because they don't quiet have enough knowledge on what they are talking about lol.

Hoofy

76,766 posts

285 months

MightyBadger said:
GeneralBanter said:
There's a big thing with this bloke and all like him - that he's discovering things that are purposely being hidden from him/us.

Its like watching a child.

If only he could read he would be able to understand the reasons for all these things he posts about, but in total ignorance he makes up ridiculous plots of concealment and subterfuge.
Haha yes indeed, it's is frustrating sometimes to watch these people trying to re-write history because they don't quiet have enough knowledge on what they are talking about lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_DPrSEOEo

coldel

8,099 posts

149 months

Legacywr said:
A friend of mine who’s obsessed with all this stuff posted a meme the other day.

It went along the lines of…

I’ll never trust a health worker or big pharmacy again!

I posted, “what about the ones who saved your life?”

He had a triple heart bypass this year…
Yes but thats not big pharma, thats ok pharma, thats doctors init not pharma.

Yes we have seen our fair share of big pharma CT on here who know about 1% of what pharma is all about, but yes at some point they or someone close to them would have positive life changing experiences with big pharma playing a key role. But thats ok. Its the 5g microchips in the vaccines they make that sends the data to baddies at the WEF.

Jinx

11,465 posts

263 months

MBBlat said:
Except apart from their very early years, ie before June 30th 1934, the National Socialists were as socialist as a Democratic People’s Republic are democratic. Actual socialists were put into the concentration camps by the NAZIS once they gained power.

Do you think Neo-Nazis would consider themselves socialists? Or would they likely express their objections violently?

A basic summary https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-so...
That link doesn't provide any real comparison of the Nazi national socialism verses other forms of socialism at the time. The growth in wages and prosperity of Germany from 1933 onwards was a direct consequence of government investment programs (most of these in rebuilding the military but ultimately government funded job programs) which is a socialist economic concept. Whilst "actual socialists" were put in concentration camps that happened to anyone of any political persuasion that did not agree with the Nazi party so isn't evidence for or against any economic/philosophical model.
But anyway this is a moot point when "the Soviet Union as the world's first nominally socialist state" murdered more people than Nazi Germany.

GeneralBanter

928 posts

18 months

MightyBadger said:
GeneralBanter said:
There's a big thing with this bloke and all like him - that he's discovering things that are purposely being hidden from him/us.

Its like watching a child.

If only he could read he would be able to understand the reasons for all these things he posts about, but in total ignorance he makes up ridiculous plots of concealment and subterfuge.
Haha yes indeed, it's is frustrating sometimes to watch these people trying to re-write history because they don't quiet have enough knowledge on what they are talking about lol.
I watched part of it but it was cringeworthy, No Entry signs and a bit of random heras fencing = 'what are they hiding', sirens in the background in a local town = 'I'm nervous its kicking off they are after us'.

Incredible really.

Notch 8

359 posts

11 months

Yesterday (10:12)
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I was chatting to someone on Friday evening about conspiracy theorists, and we were in agreement that they are basically fantasists.

That was until the 1969 moon landing was mentioned..

‘Oh that was faked’ he said.

Apparently, they had to beat the Russians at any cost, so they faked it.

He acknowledged that the Russians tracked the mission, and congratulated the Americans on landing, but it was all faked??

He probably didn’t know that, but acted like he did, and still insisted the July landing was faked at least, adding that another top secret mission was launched a few weeks later, which left all the evidence we know of.