Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

[Notch 8]

‘M.I.A launches clothing range, including a tin foil hat, to prevent 5G waves from entering the body’.

I’ve found out through this link that there is a FB group named ‘Conspiracy theorists being aggressively gullible’ if anyone is interested.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/m-i-a-launches-tin-...

[coldel]

98elise said:

Jim H said:

Ken_Code said:

Jim H said:

Hello BD,

Some very interesting vids on YouTube about Epstein, very interesting!

He obviously had some extremely powerful and influential associates in lofty positions.

And I’m fairly convinced he had dossiers of filth on them all.

I’m going to leave it there. I’m going to a garden party this afternoon (on it)…

Last time I got spectacularly drunk I started the Moon Mission thread…..

Hmmmm, I better leave my phone at home.

You still haven’t admitted to your lies in that one have you?

Hi Ken, I hope all is well with you?

I think it’s a bit of a shame that you persist with this angle. However.

I really should avoid this type of reply, however I consider since I started it (the thread)… Many days ago, embarrassing yes, but hey ho, we all make mistakes.

I’m really uncomfortable about being accused of lying.

Dishonesty and lack of integrity are traits in human beings I absolutely abhor.

If you are still referring to my ‘alleged mate’?!

My friend, he’s not on this forum. So should never be the subject and scrutiny.

He’s an extremely private man, I respect him immensely, I’ve been friends with him for over 30 years.

I’ve also a few years experience of this forum and the certain people it attracts, the type of people who look others up and become shall we say - rather obsessed.

Let’s put it this way, would you put someone (a good friend) on this forum and reveal - for unwanted attention.

And risk a good friendship? Would you Ken?

For settling an internet debate?

Now that would be daft. Posting a silly wine fuelled post on holiday I’m occasionally capable of. I can assure, integrity and honesty are values I truly hold.

I'm confused now. I though you dismissed it as a joke, now the rich physicist is real again?

Does he still say you need GPS to get to the moon?

Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 25th June 16:31

I get the whole thing around not bringing a friends name into group. But surely its understandable that if he is such the clever physicist he is meant to be, that when he gets his conspiracy theory facts completely blown away by some part timers on PH who just do it as a passing interest, that you would imagine people here would begin to wonder how genuine this 'friend' is if he doesn't understand the basics?

[Blown2CV]

i don't know the specifics of this particular instance but i do believe it is incredibly pathetic that CTists do this sort of thing. They basically know they can't argue their views well, and they don't have evidence to hand, or any credibility at all, so rather than face that they might be wrong, they just fabricate someone who does have evidence, who is credible and who supposedly can argue their position well, and they just use their vague connection to a made up person as a proxy for those things. It's so unbelievably childish and broken-minded, I don't even think a 5 year old would choose this approach. It just shows that it is literally impossible to get these people to see sense.

[Ken_Code]

Blown2CV said:

i don't know the specifics of this particular instance but i do believe it is incredibly pathetic that CTists do this sort of thing. They basically know they can't argue their views well, and they don't have evidence to hand, or any credibility at all, so rather than face that they might be wrong, they just fabricate someone who does have evidence, who is credible and who supposedly can argue their position well, and they just use their vague connection to a made up person as a proxy for those things. It's so unbelievably childish and broken-minded, I don't even think a 5 year old would choose this approach. It just shows that it is literally impossible to get these people to see sense.

It’s sadly all too common isn’t it? They have super-secret expert inside knowledge (that is easily shown to be utterly false) and yet can’t of course back it up.

As per the thread’s title, not all conspiracy theorists are necessarily thick, but all the ones on here at the moment seem to be.

[GeneralBanter]

Jim H said:

Hi Ken, I hope all is well with you?

I think it’s a bit of a shame that you persist with this angle. However.

I really should avoid this type of reply, however I consider since I started it (the thread)… Many days ago, embarrassing yes, but hey ho, we all make mistakes.

I’m really uncomfortable about being accused of lying.

Dishonesty and lack of integrity are traits in human beings I absolutely abhor.

If you are still referring to my ‘alleged mate’?!

My friend, he’s not on this forum. So should never be the subject and scrutiny.

He’s an extremely private man, I respect him immensely, I’ve been friends with him for over 30 years.

I’ve also a few years experience of this forum and the certain people it attracts, the type of people who look others up and become shall we say - rather obsessed.

Let’s put it this way, would you put someone (a good friend) on this forum and reveal - for unwanted attention.

And risk a good friendship? Would you Ken?

For settling an internet debate?

Now that would be daft. Posting a silly wine fuelled post on holiday I’m occasionally capable of. I can assure, integrity and honesty are values I truly hold.

This fantasist mate of yours seems to have convinced you to believe black is white.

But where exactly do you stand on it?

[jshell]

andyeds1234 said:

jshell said:

Tindersticks said:

Except that was an actual dead body no?

s like Jones claim Sandy Hook didn’t ever happen. Different thing entirely.

Whilst I fully see that all as utterly despicable and that I have zero time for Alex Jones, his recorded prediction of what, who and how for the 9/11 attacks was fascinating!!

Please do elaborate

Sure. As I said, I have no time for AJ, he is a nutter, but now having wasted some time on it, it looks fabricated.

[jshell]

u-boat said:

paulguitar said:

mko9 said:

I think this is the reference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNiIiwwOlsI

From around 1:40 - names bin Laden and then references the WTC.

He was referencing the 1993 WTC and 1995 Oklahoma bombing attacks there.

Interesting that mko9 and jshell are also big in the climate change threads and how the bbc, scientists etc are all in on the conspiracy.

There’s definitely a package of beliefs that these CTist seem to buy into.

Unfortunately these revelations (facts) never tend to dent their beliefs though and tendency to get their facts from obviously unreliable sources.

Oh, Iike to think I'm more discerning than that. I don't think 9/11 was an inside job, I know the moon landings were real, the earth is a globe, sorry oblate spheroid... But yes, having watched the climate debate since around 1994, I struggle to see that we are having the one, single devastating effect on the earth's temperature. That's not to say we are having no effect. So, if that makes me a CT, then that's cool.

[Flumpo]

New one, the footage of Julian Assange is clearly not him. It’s a double….

[MBBlat]

Another relatively new one, the NAZIs were socialists who nationalised German industry in world war 2.

Would it be rude to suggest anyone holding this opinion go and express this to a local Neo-Nazi, or would that be considered attempted murder?

[Ken_Code]

MBBlat said:

Another relatively new one, the NAZIs were socialists who nationalised German industry in world war 2.

Would it be rude to suggest anyone holding this opinion go and express this to a local Neo-Nazi, or would that be considered attempted murder?

It’s not clear what point you are trying to make here. They obviously viewed themselves as socialists at one point, as that’s what they called themselves.

Why though would the facts of the matter be decided by what a neo-nazi today thinks? Do you base your knowledge of anny other historical facts on what neo-nazis believe?

[MBBlat]

Ken_Code said:

MBBlat said:

Another relatively new one, the NAZIs were socialists who nationalised German industry in world war 2.

Would it be rude to suggest anyone holding this opinion go and express this to a local Neo-Nazi, or would that be considered attempted murder?

It’s not clear what point you are trying to make here. They obviously viewed themselves as socialists at one point, as that’s what they called themselves.

Why though would the facts of the matter be decided by what a neo-nazi today thinks? Do you base your knowledge of anny other historical facts on what neo-nazis believe?

Except apart from their very early years, ie before June 30th 1934, the National Socialists were as socialist as a Democratic People’s Republic are democratic. Actual socialists were put into the concentration camps by the NAZIS once they gained power.

Do you think Neo-Nazis would consider themselves socialists? Or would they likely express their objections violently?

A basic summary https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-so...

[Ken_Code]

MBBlat said:

Except apart from their very early years, ie before June 30th 1934, the National Socialists were as socialist as a Democratic People’s Republic are democratic. Actual socialists were put into the concentration camps by the NAZIS once they gained power.

Do you think Neo-Nazis would consider themselves socialists? Or would they likely express their objections violently?

A basic summary https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-so...

Again, why do you think the question of whether the Nazi party was socialist is to be decided by what a neo-nazi thinks?

You are making no sense here.

[MBBlat]

Ken_Code said:

Again, why do you think the question of whether the Nazi party was socialist is to be decided by what a neo-nazi thinks?

You are making no sense here.

There is no question that the Nazi party was socialist, they clearly weren’t. I’m just wondering what the response of the Neo-Nazis would be if you told them their idols were socialist, unless of course you think the Neo-Nazis with their sa flags and tattoos don’t idolises the Nazis?

[Ken_Code]

MBBlat said:

There is no question that the Nazi party was socialist, they clearly weren’t. I’m just wondering what the response of the Neo-Nazis would be if you told them their idols were socialist, unless of course you think the Neo-Nazis with their sa flags and tattoos don’t idolises the Nazis?

But that’s not what you posted. You said that if you wonder if the National Socialist German Workers' Party was socialist then you should ask a neo-nazi.

Edited by Ken_Code on Thursday 27th June 22:14

[MBBlat]

Ken_Code said:

But that’s not what you posted. You said that if you wonder if the National Socialist German Workers' Party was socialist then you should ask a neo-nazi.

Edited by Ken_Code on Thursday 27th June 22:14

No I wondered if telling a Neo-Nazi that the Nazis were socialist would get you killed. You seem intent on twisting my meaning for some reason.

The Nazis may have been founded as a mixture of Nationalism and socialism, but a certain Adolf Hitler took over who moved the party away from its initial beliefs. The name was kept mainly for propaganda purposes, party members who still believed in socialism were purged by the mid 1930’s. Even contemporary right wingers such as Churchill categorised the Nazis as extreme right.

There now seems to be a right wing belief that seems to consist of Nazis = bad, leftists = bad, therefore Nazis = leftist.

[Ken_Code]

MBBlat said:

There now seems to be a right wing belief that seems to consist of Nazis = bad, leftists = bad, therefore Nazis = leftist.

Only in your head.

[Tankrizzo]

I don't see what any of this has to do with conspiracy theories.

[Alex Z]

Tankrizzo said:

I don't see what any of this has to do with conspiracy theories.

You posted that at exactly midnight. It’s part of the great reset….

Anyway, one that I’d not heard of before is the idea of geopolymer blocks.
Apparently rock formations like Kinver Edge aren’t natural but are man made construction for some unspecified purpose…..

https://youtube.com/@pauliecook432?si=Y3xKltwmLtQf...

[Blown2CV]

nazis were kind of socialist... just socialist within a somewhat restricted subset of the population.

[Legacywr]

A friend of mine who’s obsessed with all this stuff posted a meme the other day.

It went along the lines of…

I’ll never trust a health worker or big pharmacy again!

I posted, “what about the ones who saved your life?”

He had a triple heart bypass this year…