Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

[DonkeyApple]

Notch 8 said:

We are drowning in a sea of thick.

We always have been. The only thing that has changed is that you've (we've) chosen to go and hang out with them in their world and they've been given the tools through which they can visit ours.

Prior to the internet one would never have much interaction with them. They would be in their pubs shouting, fighting, being racist, being sexist and just making crap up to explain stuff they didn't understand while being sold worthless tat by dodgy grifters on the make. Meanwhile, other pubs and bars had dress codes that kept them out and where the punters weren't shouting, fighting, or needing to invent fairytales to explain the blatantly obvious. They were still racists and sexist and were still being sold tat by grifters but it was classier tat like a timeshare or a penny share that was going to the moon.

Social media just brings everyone together and limits just how well you can keep away from the potato people and their conspiracy theories, fairytales, political extremism, racism and general life in the gutter and devout bellied it's all everyone else's fault and that there is some great mystical power keeping them in the gutter when it's nothing more than consuming too many drugs, not being very bright, or having been fiddled with by daddy and being a basket case.

[paulguitar]

Brother D said:

What's the consensus on Epstein? Conspiracy or not?



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/...

Paywalled.

[Jim H]

Brother D said:

What's the consensus on Epstein? Conspiracy or not?



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/...

Hello BD,

Some very interesting vids on YouTube about Epstein, very interesting!

He obviously had some extremely powerful and influential associates in lofty positions.

And I’m fairly convinced he had dossiers of filth on them all.

I’m going to leave it there. I’m going to a garden party this afternoon (on it)…

Last time I got spectacularly drunk I started the Moon Mission thread…..

Hmmmm, I better leave my phone at home.

[paulguitar]

Jim H said:

Brother D said:

What's the consensus on Epstein? Conspiracy or not?



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/...

Hello BD,

Some very interesting vids on YouTube about Epstein, very interesting!

He obviously had some extremely powerful and influential associates in lofty positions.

And I’m fairly convinced he had dossiers of filth on them all.

I think it's fairly well accepted that's the case, with some of them, at least. What conspiracy are we discussing though, his death?

Jim H said:

I’m going to leave it there. I’m going to a garden party this afternoon (on it)…

Last time I got spectacularly drunk I started the Moon Mission thread…..

Hmmmm, I better leave my phone at home.

Ther moon thing was a misjudgment, but I think there is a discussion to be had regarding Epstein.

[Jim H]

Hi Paul and thanks for that, and the comment on my new watch! Well received.



I thought this vid was interesting on Epstein.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VaoGl-soL1g&pp=y...

Right, I’m off out! Without phone!

[paulguitar]

Jim H said:

Hi Paul and thanks for that, and the comment on my new watch! Well received.



I thought this vid was interesting on Epstein.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VaoGl-soL1g&pp=y...

Right, I’m off out! Without phone!

Enjoy your day.

[MBBlat]

Brother D said:

What's the consensus on Epstein? Conspiracy or not?



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/...

Epstein’s death is a case of never ascribe to conspiracy what you can adequately explain by incompetence. He’d previously attempted suicide and all his rich and powerful “friends” were rapidly deserting him to his fate. There are also a lot of cases of prisoners committing suicide even when they are meant to be on suicide watch.

Epstein pimping out underage girls to his rich and famous “friends” is a bit more nebulous, he liked to cultivate such people, many of whom were apparently blind to his proclivity’s. No doubt some, Prince Andrew comes to mind, did take advantage, others like Trump probably knew what he was up to but were willing to turn a blind eye.

Was Epstein a ringleader of an international peodophile ring of the elite, who subsequently had him killed to hide the evidence? Almost certainly not. It’s also worth noting that while his victims were young and well below the age of consent, they were post puberty, so technically he wasn’t a peodophile either.

[GeneralBanter]

jshell said:

Whilst I fully see that all as utterly despicable and that I have zero time for Alex Jones, his recorded prediction of what, who and how for the 9/11 attacks was fascinating!!

You’ve been conned.

[paulguitar]

GeneralBanter said:

jshell said:

Whilst I fully see that all as utterly despicable and that I have zero time for Alex Jones, his recorded prediction of what, who and how for the 9/11 attacks was fascinating!!

You’ve been conned.

Yes, that was pretty well established yesterday. It would be good to see an acknowledgement of that.

[chrisgtx]

DonkeyApple said:

Notch 8 said:

We are drowning in a sea of thick.

We always have been. The only thing that has changed is that you've (we've) chosen to go and hang out with them in their world and they've been given the tools through which they can visit ours.

Prior to the internet one would never have much interaction with them. They would be in their pubs shouting, fighting, being racist, being sexist and just making crap up to explain stuff they didn't understand while being sold worthless tat by dodgy grifters on the make. Meanwhile, other pubs and bars had dress codes that kept them out and where the punters weren't shouting, fighting, or needing to invent fairytales to explain the blatantly obvious. They were still racists and sexist and were still being sold tat by grifters but it was classier tat like a timeshare or a penny share that was going to the moon.

Social media just brings everyone together and limits just how well you can keep away from the potato people and their conspiracy theories, fairytales, political extremism, racism and general life in the gutter and devout bellied it's all everyone else's fault and that there is some great mystical power keeping them in the gutter when it's nothing more than consuming too many drugs, not being very bright, or having been fiddled with by daddy and being a basket case.

Christ on a bike, that has to be the most ridiculous, stereotypical rant on here. Bordering on CT theories.
I can only assume you’ve not been in a pub. You’ve just watched an episode of ‘shameless’ and seen Frank having one of his rants.
So in your head you’ve managed to clump in people who think the world is flat and chemtrails are killing us with racist, nobs who fight in pub and drug use?oh, and adding in sexual abuse!
Outstanding.

[DonkeyApple]

chrisgtx said:

Christ on a bike, that has to be the most ridiculous, stereotypical rant on here. Bordering on CT theories.
I can only assume you’ve not been in a pub. You’ve just watched an episode of ‘shameless’ and seen Frank having one of his rants.
So in your head you’ve managed to clump in people who think the world is flat and chemtrails are killing us with racist, nobs who fight in pub and drug use?oh, and adding in sexual abuse!
Outstanding.

Nope. Going on various social media is like walking accidentally into a flat roof pub full of thickos and racists. Plus just science:

https://jspp.psychopen.eu/index.php/jspp/article/v...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-021-01258-7

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/system/files/202...

[chrisgtx]

Really?
I’d like to give you an invitation to the real world.

[DonkeyApple]

chrisgtx said:

Really?
I’d like to give you an invitation to the real world.

The real world is the one CTs are running and hiding from. I don't wish to spend any time in the filth they conjure up in their minds to escape their failings. But thank you.

[Timothy Bucktu]

chrisgtx said:

DonkeyApple said:

Notch 8 said:

We are drowning in a sea of thick.

We always have been. The only thing that has changed is that you've (we've) chosen to go and hang out with them in their world and they've been given the tools through which they can visit ours.

Prior to the internet one would never have much interaction with them. They would be in their pubs shouting, fighting, being racist, being sexist and just making crap up to explain stuff they didn't understand while being sold worthless tat by dodgy grifters on the make. Meanwhile, other pubs and bars had dress codes that kept them out and where the punters weren't shouting, fighting, or needing to invent fairytales to explain the blatantly obvious. They were still racists and sexist and were still being sold tat by grifters but it was classier tat like a timeshare or a penny share that was going to the moon.

Social media just brings everyone together and limits just how well you can keep away from the potato people and their conspiracy theories, fairytales, political extremism, racism and general life in the gutter and devout bellied it's all everyone else's fault and that there is some great mystical power keeping them in the gutter when it's nothing more than consuming too many drugs, not being very bright, or having been fiddled with by daddy and being a basket case.

Christ on a bike, that has to be the most ridiculous, stereotypical rant on here. Bordering on CT theories.
I can only assume you’ve not been in a pub. You’ve just watched an episode of ‘shameless’ and seen Frank having one of his rants.
So in your head you’ve managed to clump in people who think the world is flat and chemtrails are killing us with racist, nobs who fight in pub and drug use?oh, and adding in sexual abuse!
Outstanding.

It's a lot safer in the comfort of his bedroom though, to be fair.

[coldel]

andyeds1234 said:

paulguitar said:

mko9 said:

I think this is the reference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNiIiwwOlsI

From around 1:40 - names bin Laden and then references the WTC.

He was referencing the 1993 WTC and 1995 Oklahoma bombing attacks there.

Bin Laden was also at the top of the FBI list of most wanted terrorists from 1998.
In other news, Alex Jones predicted the pope to be a catholic.

All the above.

Fallacies that a CT will simply drop into without fact checking, because it fits the narrative.

The human brain encounters millions of interactions a day, it simply cannot take them all in, so it automatically defocuses the stuff it feels isnt useful i.e. to survive, to live, to work etc. OBL was not new news re the WTC bombings, its just that nobody had bothered to notice him prior to that. Then you pick up something like the video above and think that Alex Jones had something, when he didnt.

Think about it, you never notice 90% of the cars you drive past each day, you go out and buy a grey VW golf, then you see them everywhere. Its the same thing, a brain wired to pick up what it needs to satisfy the narrative, and very easy to not fact check and process it as a thing.

[Who_Goes_Blue]

DonkeyApple said:

chrisgtx said:

Really?
I’d like to give you an invitation to the real world.

The real world is the one CTs are running and hiding from. I don't wish to spend any time in the filth they conjure up in their minds to escape their failings. But thank you.

You dont want to spend time in the filth they conjure up, but you spend time looking into CT stuff? Maybe you should be in a flat roof pub with the "thickos" as you call them

[Ken_Code]

Jim H said:

Hello BD,

Some very interesting vids on YouTube about Epstein, very interesting!

He obviously had some extremely powerful and influential associates in lofty positions.

And I’m fairly convinced he had dossiers of filth on them all.

I’m going to leave it there. I’m going to a garden party this afternoon (on it)…

Last time I got spectacularly drunk I started the Moon Mission thread…..

Hmmmm, I better leave my phone at home.

You still haven’t admitted to your lies in that one have you?

[coldel]

The moon landings thread was a joke in the end, sorry but the mystery physicist clearly didnt give you enough info to fend off even the simple basics. Whoever he may be. I would be worried if he is teaching kids or adults even for that matter!

But yes, that was all a load of mumbo jumbo that has been claimed and debunked a hundred times before, there will be more people that fall for it, posting the same nonsense videos etc. (oh look how the flag moves, look at the footprints) and people that know what they are talking about have to go through it all again.

[Jim H]

Ken_Code said:

Jim H said:

Hello BD,

Some very interesting vids on YouTube about Epstein, very interesting!

He obviously had some extremely powerful and influential associates in lofty positions.

And I’m fairly convinced he had dossiers of filth on them all.

I’m going to leave it there. I’m going to a garden party this afternoon (on it)…

Last time I got spectacularly drunk I started the Moon Mission thread…..

Hmmmm, I better leave my phone at home.

You still haven’t admitted to your lies in that one have you?

Hi Ken, I hope all is well with you?

I think it’s a bit of a shame that you persist with this angle. However.

I really should avoid this type of reply, however I consider since I started it (the thread)… Many days ago, embarrassing yes, but hey ho, we all make mistakes.

I’m really uncomfortable about being accused of lying.

Dishonesty and lack of integrity are traits in human beings I absolutely abhor.

If you are still referring to my ‘alleged mate’?!

My friend, he’s not on this forum. So should never be the subject and scrutiny.

He’s an extremely private man, I respect him immensely, I’ve been friends with him for over 30 years.

I’ve also a few years experience of this forum and the certain people it attracts, the type of people who look others up and become shall we say - rather obsessed.

Let’s put it this way, would you put someone (a good friend) on this forum and reveal - for unwanted attention.

And risk a good friendship? Would you Ken?

For settling an internet debate?

Now that would be daft. Posting a silly wine fuelled post on holiday I’m occasionally capable of. I can assure, integrity and honesty are values I truly hold.

[coldel]

To be fair, it wasnt a debate. Not when established fact is being challenged by already debunked unproven theories.

There is no debate to be had really.