Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?
Discussion
GeneralBanter said:
jshell said:
The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?
It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
Why are we in June and I have the heating on and it’s been cold for weeks now? 2020 was blisteringly hot in April and May since then it’s been crap. It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
Edited by andyeds1234 on Saturday 8th June 18:11
GeneralBanter said:
DonkeyApple said:
While $billions have been spent to date trying to learn about global climate and impacts only about £1.57 has been spent to date by the U.K. to study what climate change actually means to the U.K.
Bloody typical - trying to get it done for under two quid. 
conkerman said:
DonkeyApple said:
How do you find all this rubbish?
prossie bar maid,
Do you still have her number I've lost it. prossie bar maid,
Asking for a friend of course. Phew!
Blown2CV said:
to be honest i may open a bunker business because something like one third of the population of the UK is a CTist now.
I had one at work convinced that the carrots we were using (which are from China) were not really carrots but some form of weird vegetable they died orange. Probably as part of some great scheme to infect the West with something or other.To prove this he cut one in half and rubbed it as hard as he could on his hand leaving an orange mark... "look, it turns you orange!"
Hmmm.... yeah.
21TonyK said:
I had one at work convinced that the carrots we were using (which are from China) were not really carrots but some form of weird vegetable they died orange. Probably as part of some great scheme to infect the West with something or other.
To prove this he cut one in half and rubbed it as hard as he could on his hand leaving an orange mark... "look, it turns you orange!"
Hmmm.... yeah.
Wibble-tastic!To prove this he cut one in half and rubbed it as hard as he could on his hand leaving an orange mark... "look, it turns you orange!"
Hmmm.... yeah.
Worrying though at the same time.
Tony Starks said:
To be fair, I think (from memory) carrots were originally white. It's just that they've been selectively grown over hundreds of years to be orange.
So in theory you could have a lot of fun with that one
White and purple varieties mainly but the story is that an orange variety was cultivated by a Dutchman to celebrate William of Orange being a tremendous Protestant. So the fact that the orange carrot is technically 'man made' is probably the kernel of truth around which the loony fodder for the potato people has been constructed. Fear the carrot!!! And send me you money, you vacant vessels doomed to follow the flat roof pub weiner!So in theory you could have a lot of fun with that one
DonkeyApple said:
White and purple varieties mainly but the story is that an orange variety was cultivated by a Dutchman to celebrate William of Orange being a tremendous Protestant. So the fact that the orange carrot is technically 'man made' is probably the kernel of truth around which the loony fodder for the potato people has been constructed. Fear the carrot!!! And send me you money, you vacant vessels doomed to follow the flat roof pub weiner!
A bit like the ‘look at the banana, so perfect for human hands therefore God!’DonkeyApple said:
jdw100 said:
A bit like the ‘look at the banana, so perfect for human hands therefore God!’
Well that's just silly. Everyone knows God designed the banana to fit into orifices. Same as the radish and the gerbil. No wonder the weather in UK is so bad.
End Times etc etc…
Pistom said:
Blown2CV said:
to be honest i may open a bunker business because something like one third of the population of the UK is a CTist now.
It's when they get to over half you need to start worrying. DonkeyApple said:
jshell said:
The theory is correct, but I believe that we are approaching energy transition in a devastating manner.
Electrification and EV's will do nothing to help. You know better than me that that has been taken over by 'investors'. Even the Govt admit that we need at least 20 yrs of gas for generation. We NEED nuclear.
Nuclear would be nice but it's not going to happen. The timescale is too long, the political challenge for locations too great and in the end the actual cost is too high for what is generated. Electrification and EV's will do nothing to help. You know better than me that that has been taken over by 'investors'. Even the Govt admit that we need at least 20 yrs of gas for generation. We NEED nuclear.
It's also one of those projects where we adults leave the final cost burden to our grandchildren and the one thing the last 50 years of adult behaviour has shown every single one of us is that is a truly abhorrent way to have lived.
The key is excess renewable in the guise of wind as this is the power source that plays more ideally for the U.K. due to our geolocation and the coastal geology. There are very few developed nations in anywhere near the same beneficial position that the U.K. finds itself in. The generation of this wind also ties to the local demand which is another huge bonus.
The more excess is put in place then the fewer the periods of shortage. At the same time that excess is a constant export revenue onto the BoP.
Further down the line we have a second absolutely huge energy source again due to our geolocation and that is tidal. Tidal doesn't currently work. The science for generation does but it's the huge maintenance cost that stops it. But it is the next most likely avenue and tidal potential dwarfs nuclear and has none of the risks, initial capex or end of life costs.
Other nations will have no choice but to fall back onto nuclear but the U.K. genuinely has no need at all which is why it never gets the traction some demand. First we had coal that was superior, then we stumbled onto gas which was superior and now we have wind which again is superior.
Nations like Japan have a real problem and to be honest, France also as they appear to not be planning to replace their nuclear backbone.
Wind is supplemental, it is also difficult to synchronise onto a grid. It's noisy, an eyesore and cannot provide base in calm conditions. I stood under one recently for the first time and couldn't believe the noise of the blades!
Wave is a nice idea, but will never be economic. 2 periods of slack water each day, maint costs and exposure to extreme weather coupled with the difficulty of transforming slow-period energy to high frequency output means it's a bit of a pipedream.
Notch 8 said:
Tony Starks said:
To be fair, I think (from memory) carrots were originally white. It's just that they've been selectively grown over hundreds of years to be orange.
So in theory you could have a lot of fun with that one
Like 1970’s dog eggs then.So in theory you could have a lot of fun with that one
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