Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

[Notch 8]

I’ve just been reading a Daily Star article about astronauts zero gravity training on the ‘Vomit Comet’.

It’s brought them all out in the comments.

‘The space station is fake’

‘There are no satellites, only balloons’ (that came from a flat earther).

Even a Jew comment appeared by one muppet who was so out there it was ridiculous, and was of course completely convinced he was right, and everyone else was a moron. The irony.

Comments like that hugely overwhelmed the more sensible ones.

CTism is now an epidemic.

I was hoping to link it, but I can’t find it using a browser.

Edited by Notch 8 on Friday 7th June 14:51

[jshell]

DonkeyApple said:

jshell said:

The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?

It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?

For those of us in Britain it's a simpler scenario in reality. MMCC and its legislation gives the U.K. a massive economic competitive advantage so we would be mad to not work with it whether we believe it or not. Personally, I don't trouble myself at all as to whether MMCC is relevant or not, I can see very clearly that my children will have a better life and advantage as a result of the actions being taken. And all I have to do is eventually change a car, which I was going to be doing anyway and eventually change a gas boiler which I'd be doing anyway. For a U.K. citizen there's no downside so it would be daft to invest effort in fighting for what is only a Pyrrhic victory.

The theory is correct, but I believe that we are approaching energy transition in a devastating manner.

Electrification and EV's will do nothing to help. You know better than me that that has been taken over by 'investors'. Even the Govt admit that we need at least 20 yrs of gas for generation. We NEED nuclear.

[DonkeyApple]

jshell said:

The theory is correct, but I believe that we are approaching energy transition in a devastating manner.

Electrification and EV's will do nothing to help. You know better than me that that has been taken over by 'investors'. Even the Govt admit that we need at least 20 yrs of gas for generation. We NEED nuclear.

Nuclear would be nice but it's not going to happen. The timescale is too long, the political challenge for locations too great and in the end the actual cost is too high for what is generated.

It's also one of those projects where we adults leave the final cost burden to our grandchildren and the one thing the last 50 years of adult behaviour has shown every single one of us is that is a truly abhorrent way to have lived.

The key is excess renewable in the guise of wind as this is the power source that plays more ideally for the U.K. due to our geolocation and the coastal geology. There are very few developed nations in anywhere near the same beneficial position that the U.K. finds itself in. The generation of this wind also ties to the local demand which is another huge bonus.

The more excess is put in place then the fewer the periods of shortage. At the same time that excess is a constant export revenue onto the BoP.

Further down the line we have a second absolutely huge energy source again due to our geolocation and that is tidal. Tidal doesn't currently work. The science for generation does but it's the huge maintenance cost that stops it. But it is the next most likely avenue and tidal potential dwarfs nuclear and has none of the risks, initial capex or end of life costs.

Other nations will have no choice but to fall back onto nuclear but the U.K. genuinely has no need at all which is why it never gets the traction some demand. First we had coal that was superior, then we stumbled onto gas which was superior and now we have wind which again is superior.

Nations like Japan have a real problem and to be honest, France also as they appear to not be planning to replace their nuclear backbone.

[GeneralBanter]

jshell said:

The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?

It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?

Why are we in June and I have the heating on and it’s been cold for weeks now? 2020 was blisteringly hot in April and May since then it’s been crap.

[Tindersticks]

You do understand there’s a difference between local weather and a global climate yes?

[DonkeyApple]

GeneralBanter said:

jshell said:

The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?

It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?

Why are we in June and I have the heating on and it’s been cold for weeks now? 2020 was blisteringly hot in April and May since then it’s been crap.

To be honest, that's simple to answer. The U.K. climate is controlled by the Gulf Stream and the weather by the jet stream. The warm water from the Gulf of Mexico keeps the U.K. much warmer in winter than our latitude should have it so as residents of the U.K. our focus should be in sea temps around the Gulf of Mexico and oceanic flow disruption caused by ice cap melting and that colder flow displacing the Gulf Stream. But our summer temp fluctuations are dictated by the position of the jet stream. When that is above Scotland it sucks in warm, dry air from North Africa and delivers a belting summer but when it sits below England we get cold polar air from the North and East. Hence why it snowed in June 1976.

The reason for it being cold in the U.K. currently is down to the position of the jet stream.

While $billions have been spent to date trying to learn about global climate and impacts only about £1.57 has been spent to date by the U.K. to study what climate change actually means to the U.K. All we really know is that the U.K. will be hugely negatively impacted by a rise in sea level as the majority of our cities are located at sea level as a legacy of the previous 500 years of sea trade so regardless of anything else we have a very keen interest in doing whatever we can to limit further ocean temp increases and as a small bit affluent island thatbis bear done by spearheading the changes that we need enormous nations to be able to make.

In short, by incentivising the affluent in the U.K. to switch away from combustion and USD entrapment we not only show how it's done but we also get to export the services to others to enable them to follow. A rather large economic win.

[MightyBadger]

GeneralBanter said:

Why are we in June and I have the heating on and it’s been cold for weeks now? 2020 was blisteringly hot in April and May since then it’s been crap.

Maybe you need better insulation/more natural light in the house/facing wrong way/under a cloud etc. There has been plenty of warm sunny summers days in the last month or so. Lovely and sunny here again today - warm too, just like yesterday. Maybe the 5g bats are leaving chemtrails over your house at night?

[DonkeyApple]

Having the heating on in June is a lifestyle choice. Put a top on for zero expense or press a button and pay money away to The Man, who as we all know is merely a front for Yiddish speaking lizards. The risk of putting a jumper in is that it is clearly an overtly anti-Semitic display.

I've gone the long sleeved, T-shirt route as a libtard, woke compromise.

[GeneralBanter]

DonkeyApple said:

While $billions have been spent to date trying to learn about global climate and impacts only about £1.57 has been spent to date by the U.K. to study what climate change actually means to the U.K.

Bloody typical - trying to get it done for under two quid.

[andyeds1234]

GeneralBanter said:

jshell said:

The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?

It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?

Why are we in June and I have the heating on and it’s been cold for weeks now? 2020 was blisteringly hot in April and May since then it’s been crap.

I guess that why it’s called GLOBAL warming, not MY IMMEDIATE VICINITY warming.

Edited by andyeds1234 on Saturday 8th June 18:11

[andyeds1234]

GeneralBanter said:

DonkeyApple said:

While $billions have been spent to date trying to learn about global climate and impacts only about £1.57 has been spent to date by the U.K. to study what climate change actually means to the U.K.

Bloody typical - trying to get it done for under two quid.

[DonkeyApple]

conkerman said:

DonkeyApple said:

How do you find all this rubbish?

prossie bar maid,

Do you still have her number I've lost it.

Asking for a friend of course. Phew!

If near London just drop into any Charingtons pub. It's the chain Tim Martin took one look at and thought 'I'm going to build an empire around a more civilised and classy version of this!'

[Blown2CV]

The latest CT appears to be reports of civil defence sirens being installed on residential streets

[Notch 8]

Blown2CV said:

The latest CT appears to be reports of civil defence sirens being installed on residential streets

I recently heard that parts of the M4 were built to serve as emergency runways during the Cold War.

Don’t tell them that.

[Blown2CV]

to be honest i may open a bunker business because something like one third of the population of the UK is a CTist now.

[Notch 8]

Blown2CV said:

to be honest i may open a bunker business because something like one third of the population of the UK is a CTist now.

It certainly seems like it.

Those that decry MSM are usually all glassy-eyed youchoob addicts.

[21TonyK]

Blown2CV said:

to be honest i may open a bunker business because something like one third of the population of the UK is a CTist now.

I had one at work convinced that the carrots we were using (which are from China) were not really carrots but some form of weird vegetable they died orange. Probably as part of some great scheme to infect the West with something or other.

To prove this he cut one in half and rubbed it as hard as he could on his hand leaving an orange mark... "look, it turns you orange!"

Hmmm.... yeah.

[Notch 8]

21TonyK said:

I had one at work convinced that the carrots we were using (which are from China) were not really carrots but some form of weird vegetable they died orange. Probably as part of some great scheme to infect the West with something or other.

To prove this he cut one in half and rubbed it as hard as he could on his hand leaving an orange mark... "look, it turns you orange!"

Hmmm.... yeah.

Wibble-tastic!

Worrying though at the same time.

[Tony Starks]

To be fair, I think (from memory) carrots were originally white. It's just that they've been selectively grown over hundreds of years to be orange.

So in theory you could have a lot of fun with that one

[Notch 8]

Tony Starks said:

To be fair, I think (from memory) carrots were originally white. It's just that they've been selectively grown over hundreds of years to be orange.

So in theory you could have a lot of fun with that one

Like 1970’s dog eggs then.