Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?
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How do you find all this rubbish?
I'm of the generation where you only heard this sort of deluded, whackjob tripe if you went into a town's loser pub and then stood at the bar next to one of the losers who lived there. Clones of each other whose poverty was always someone else's fault and they were always so much smarter than anyone who'd ever employ them.
Sticky floors, prossie bar maid, nonce landlord and the little army of losers who knew everything about everything and could have been someone if it weren't for their principles and the fact that they were a maverick who saw through the corporate bulls
t.
Once you're over 18 you no longer have the need of those establishments so you tend to never hear the words of those utter losers again.
Obviously today they've gone online. The exact same type of person spewing the same insanities and with the same Dunning Kruger loaded self belief.
But why go looking ? Why listen? Why propagate their disease?
Also, is their illness not contagious? Aren't you worried that if you live in the loony bin you might start barking at spiders?
I'm of the generation where you only heard this sort of deluded, whackjob tripe if you went into a town's loser pub and then stood at the bar next to one of the losers who lived there. Clones of each other whose poverty was always someone else's fault and they were always so much smarter than anyone who'd ever employ them.
Sticky floors, prossie bar maid, nonce landlord and the little army of losers who knew everything about everything and could have been someone if it weren't for their principles and the fact that they were a maverick who saw through the corporate bulls
t. Once you're over 18 you no longer have the need of those establishments so you tend to never hear the words of those utter losers again.
Obviously today they've gone online. The exact same type of person spewing the same insanities and with the same Dunning Kruger loaded self belief.
But why go looking ? Why listen? Why propagate their disease?
Also, is their illness not contagious? Aren't you worried that if you live in the loony bin you might start barking at spiders?
andyeds1234 said:
jshell said:
coldel said:
durbster said:
It may be because you've just agreed with the basis for tackling human caused climate change without realising. 
That is how I read it too. Admitting that climate change is real and happening because humans have upset the natural balance of the ecosystem and pushed it in a direction too quickly than nature would normally have allowed. But…”we push the planet into a serious cooling phase then we are in REAL trouble. You can hide from heat, you can't hide from cold.
The tipping of the balance could be deadly”
I repeat, you couldn’t make this stuff up.
It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
jshell said:
andyeds1234 said:
jshell said:
coldel said:
durbster said:
It may be because you've just agreed with the basis for tackling human caused climate change without realising.
That is how I read it too. Admitting that climate change is real and happening because humans have upset the natural balance of the ecosystem and pushed it in a direction too quickly than nature would normally have allowed. But…”we push the planet into a serious cooling phase then we are in REAL trouble. You can hide from heat, you can't hide from cold.
The tipping of the balance could be deadly”
I repeat, you couldn’t make this stuff up.
It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
...tongue in cheek of course, as we know how this would go down in 'other' threads.
coldel said:
jshell said:
andyeds1234 said:
jshell said:
coldel said:
durbster said:
It may be because you've just agreed with the basis for tackling human caused climate change without realising.
That is how I read it too. Admitting that climate change is real and happening because humans have upset the natural balance of the ecosystem and pushed it in a direction too quickly than nature would normally have allowed. But…”we push the planet into a serious cooling phase then we are in REAL trouble. You can hide from heat, you can't hide from cold.
The tipping of the balance could be deadly”
I repeat, you couldn’t make this stuff up.
It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
...tongue in cheek of course, as we know how this would go down in 'other' threads.
The atmosphere is a non-linear, multi-chaotic system with more inputs and dependencies than we'll ever understand - and I know control systems! So, if we push too hard on one variable, what will be the reaction from the other variables?
Look what happened when we moved shipping to low sulphur fuel! Only afterwards did we see that the sulphur emissions had been providing a cooling effect and that we stepped-up a level of warming! https://phys.org/news/2024-05-sulfur-content-shipp...
Did anyone see that coming? Do we go back to high sulphur fuels? And then what do we do when we've converted shipping to LNG or Hydrogen or Electric?
Do we fully understand the cloud albedo effects on surface warming? The IPCC say they don't model clouds, so what if we change cloud formations? What if we create a new cloud formation system that we cannot reverse?
Honestly, I think it's terrifying!
DonkeyApple said:
How do you find all this rubbish?
I'm of the generation where you only heard this sort of deluded, whackjob tripe if you went into a town's loser pub and then stood at the bar next to one of the losers who lived there. Clones of each other whose poverty was always someone else's fault and they were always so much smarter than anyone who'd ever employ them.
Sticky floors, prossie bar maid, nonce landlord and the little army of losers who knew everything about everything and could have been someone if it weren't for their principles and the fact that they were a maverick who saw through the corporate bullst.
Once you're over 18 you no longer have the need of those establishments so you tend to never hear the words of those utter losers again.
Obviously today they've gone online. The exact same type of person spewing the same insanities and with the same Dunning Kruger loaded self belief.
But why go looking ? Why listen? Why propagate their disease?
Also, is their illness not contagious? Aren't you worried that if you live in the loony bin you might start barking at spiders?
Just sometimes I wish you would get off the fence I'm of the generation where you only heard this sort of deluded, whackjob tripe if you went into a town's loser pub and then stood at the bar next to one of the losers who lived there. Clones of each other whose poverty was always someone else's fault and they were always so much smarter than anyone who'd ever employ them.
Sticky floors, prossie bar maid, nonce landlord and the little army of losers who knew everything about everything and could have been someone if it weren't for their principles and the fact that they were a maverick who saw through the corporate bulls
t. Once you're over 18 you no longer have the need of those establishments so you tend to never hear the words of those utter losers again.
Obviously today they've gone online. The exact same type of person spewing the same insanities and with the same Dunning Kruger loaded self belief.
But why go looking ? Why listen? Why propagate their disease?
Also, is their illness not contagious? Aren't you worried that if you live in the loony bin you might start barking at spiders?
To be honest I do like to watch CT videos and stuff ... again just to see the language used by these types that propagate nonsense as well researched fact.
Its interesting to see not only how deeply seated in the idea they are, but also how they see it as their 'mission' to invade anyones space and push this onto them, and if they don't agree, then they are put in the 'sheep' box.
The behaviour is very bizarre, although as mentioned, all explainable.
Its interesting to see not only how deeply seated in the idea they are, but also how they see it as their 'mission' to invade anyones space and push this onto them, and if they don't agree, then they are put in the 'sheep' box.
The behaviour is very bizarre, although as mentioned, all explainable.
DonkeyApple said:
How do you find all this rubbish?
I find it fascinating that people can be taken in by these self important YouTube loons, that’s all.The triumphant cry of ‘I told you so!’
‘It’s all here, in this clip, they’ve admitted it, I was right all along!’
Oh, and I didn’t go looking for it. I questioned how they arrived at the notion that chemtrails were real, and they linked the clip.
Edited by Notch 8 on Friday 7th June 11:37
jshell said:
The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?
It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
For those of us in Britain it's a simpler scenario in reality. MMCC and its legislation gives the U.K. a massive economic competitive advantage so we would be mad to not work with it whether we believe it or not. Personally, I don't trouble myself at all as to whether MMCC is relevant or not, I can see very clearly that my children will have a better life and advantage as a result of the actions being taken. And all I have to do is eventually change a car, which I was going to be doing anyway and eventually change a gas boiler which I'd be doing anyway. For a U.K. citizen there's no downside so it would be daft to invest effort in fighting for what is only a Pyrrhic victory. It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
To think that Charlie Manson, David Koresh, and all the other cult leaders of the past had to craft that cult carefully, in person.
Then the internet and YouTube/TikTok/Rumble etc came along, and of course Social Meeja to link it all up.
It would have made their ‘calling’ so much easier.
It’s actually quite a scary thought.
Then the internet and YouTube/TikTok/Rumble etc came along, and of course Social Meeja to link it all up.
It would have made their ‘calling’ so much easier.
It’s actually quite a scary thought.
DonkeyApple said:
For those of us in Britain it's a simpler scenario in reality. MMCC and its legislation gives the U.K. a massive economic competitive advantage so we would be mad to not work with it whether we believe it or not. Personally, I don't trouble myself at all as to whether MMCC is relevant or not, I can see very clearly that my children will have a better life and advantage as a result of the actions being taken. And all I have to do is eventually change a car, which I was going to be doing anyway and eventually change a gas boiler which I'd be doing anyway. For a U.K. citizen there's no downside so it would be daft to invest effort in fighting for what is only a Pyrrhic victory.
But its all run by 'them' !And what about your freedoms!
I’ve just been reading a Daily Star article about astronauts zero gravity training on the ‘Vomit Comet’.
It’s brought them all out in the comments.
‘The space station is fake’
‘There are no satellites, only balloons’ (that came from a flat earther).
Even a Jew comment appeared by one muppet who was so out there it was ridiculous, and was of course completely convinced he was right, and everyone else was a moron. The irony.
Comments like that hugely overwhelmed the more sensible ones.
CTism is now an epidemic.
I was hoping to link it, but I can’t find it using a browser.
It’s brought them all out in the comments.
‘The space station is fake’
‘There are no satellites, only balloons’ (that came from a flat earther).
Even a Jew comment appeared by one muppet who was so out there it was ridiculous, and was of course completely convinced he was right, and everyone else was a moron. The irony.
Comments like that hugely overwhelmed the more sensible ones.
CTism is now an epidemic.
I was hoping to link it, but I can’t find it using a browser.
Edited by Notch 8 on Friday 7th June 14:51
DonkeyApple said:
jshell said:
The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?
It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
For those of us in Britain it's a simpler scenario in reality. MMCC and its legislation gives the U.K. a massive economic competitive advantage so we would be mad to not work with it whether we believe it or not. Personally, I don't trouble myself at all as to whether MMCC is relevant or not, I can see very clearly that my children will have a better life and advantage as a result of the actions being taken. And all I have to do is eventually change a car, which I was going to be doing anyway and eventually change a gas boiler which I'd be doing anyway. For a U.K. citizen there's no downside so it would be daft to invest effort in fighting for what is only a Pyrrhic victory. It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
Electrification and EV's will do nothing to help. You know better than me that that has been taken over by 'investors'. Even the Govt admit that we need at least 20 yrs of gas for generation. We NEED nuclear.
jshell said:
The theory is correct, but I believe that we are approaching energy transition in a devastating manner.
Electrification and EV's will do nothing to help. You know better than me that that has been taken over by 'investors'. Even the Govt admit that we need at least 20 yrs of gas for generation. We NEED nuclear.
Nuclear would be nice but it's not going to happen. The timescale is too long, the political challenge for locations too great and in the end the actual cost is too high for what is generated. Electrification and EV's will do nothing to help. You know better than me that that has been taken over by 'investors'. Even the Govt admit that we need at least 20 yrs of gas for generation. We NEED nuclear.
It's also one of those projects where we adults leave the final cost burden to our grandchildren and the one thing the last 50 years of adult behaviour has shown every single one of us is that is a truly abhorrent way to have lived.
The key is excess renewable in the guise of wind as this is the power source that plays more ideally for the U.K. due to our geolocation and the coastal geology. There are very few developed nations in anywhere near the same beneficial position that the U.K. finds itself in. The generation of this wind also ties to the local demand which is another huge bonus.
The more excess is put in place then the fewer the periods of shortage. At the same time that excess is a constant export revenue onto the BoP.
Further down the line we have a second absolutely huge energy source again due to our geolocation and that is tidal. Tidal doesn't currently work. The science for generation does but it's the huge maintenance cost that stops it. But it is the next most likely avenue and tidal potential dwarfs nuclear and has none of the risks, initial capex or end of life costs.
Other nations will have no choice but to fall back onto nuclear but the U.K. genuinely has no need at all which is why it never gets the traction some demand. First we had coal that was superior, then we stumbled onto gas which was superior and now we have wind which again is superior.
Nations like Japan have a real problem and to be honest, France also as they appear to not be planning to replace their nuclear backbone.
jshell said:
The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?
It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
Why are we in June and I have the heating on and it’s been cold for weeks now? 2020 was blisteringly hot in April and May since then it’s been crap. It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
GeneralBanter said:
jshell said:
The planet is warming, of that there is no question. Man's contribution is real but indeterminate - even by the IPCC. So, if we take action to start a cooling phase, how do we stop it if we push things in the other direction?
It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
Why are we in June and I have the heating on and it’s been cold for weeks now? 2020 was blisteringly hot in April and May since then it’s been crap. It's a valid scientific question. So, what is your argument to this?
The reason for it being cold in the U.K. currently is down to the position of the jet stream.
While $billions have been spent to date trying to learn about global climate and impacts only about £1.57 has been spent to date by the U.K. to study what climate change actually means to the U.K. All we really know is that the U.K. will be hugely negatively impacted by a rise in sea level as the majority of our cities are located at sea level as a legacy of the previous 500 years of sea trade so regardless of anything else we have a very keen interest in doing whatever we can to limit further ocean temp increases and as a small bit affluent island thatbis bear done by spearheading the changes that we need enormous nations to be able to make.
In short, by incentivising the affluent in the U.K. to switch away from combustion and USD entrapment we not only show how it's done but we also get to export the services to others to enable them to follow. A rather large economic win.
GeneralBanter said:
Why are we in June and I have the heating on and it’s been cold for weeks now? 2020 was blisteringly hot in April and May since then it’s been crap.
Maybe you need better insulation/more natural light in the house/facing wrong way/under a cloud etc. There has been plenty of warm sunny summers days in the last month or so. Lovely and sunny here again today - warm too, just like yesterday. Maybe the 5g bats are leaving chemtrails over your house at night?Having the heating on in June is a lifestyle choice. Put a top on for zero expense or press a button and pay money away to The Man, who as we all know is merely a front for Yiddish speaking lizards. The risk of putting a jumper in is that it is clearly an overtly anti-Semitic display.
I've gone the long sleeved, T-shirt route as a libtard, woke compromise.
I've gone the long sleeved, T-shirt route as a libtard, woke compromise.
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